Ice water???

Hello all,

I just caught a bit on the Tyra show where she recommended that curly girls use ICE WATER before putting in product to 'seal' the hair. Has anyone tried this? Maybe a heightened form of sealing when we rinse with cool water in the shower?

Thanks!
Erica
3a/b, fine, tends to be flat on top/at roots. Growing out damaged ends.
No-poo for over a year.

Experimenting with CV bars, AVG/J, and FSG.

Ultimate goal: NO PRODUCT!!! Considering Terressentials.
I used to do a very cold water rinse as my final rinse. It didn't make that much difference for my hair so I stopped
Location: Texas
Type: 3b/3c (i), below shoulder length.
CO wash: A-O GPB LYY, Salon Care Honey Almond, Devacurl OC, Acure Argan Stem Cell+Argan Oil, Mill Creek Botanicals Keratin Repair
Leave-ins: BWC, KCKT, cno overnight
Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG
DT: Kiehl's Olive Fruit Oil Deeply Repairative Hair Pak, Curl Junkie Deep Fix, Briogeo Don't Despair Repair!
I use neither because I don't like the cold water touching me. When I did it once I never notice a difference anyway.
Hello Erica,
Wow, hardly anyone seems to know about this! I am a huge fan of this technique, although I do not use ICE WATER as such, just COLD WATER. Really not sure whether there would be much difference between the two.

Please refer to my reply post on the Favorite products for enhancing waves/curls thread for more info (below).

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...99#post1390699

All the best from downunder!

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Location: Queensland, Australia
Gender: Male - straight
Hair type: 3b - long, natural redhead and proud of it!
Cleanse: mop c-system clean shampoo - sulphate free (once a week)
Condition: mop mixed greens moisture conditioner
Leave-in: Joico leave-in detangler
Styling: Redken Fresh Curls curl refiner cream, Murray’s pomade (sparingly!)
Treatment: Redken All Soft Heavy Cream
People who do the ice queen method as written use cold water. The thinking is that it closes the cuticle. Lots of people report great success.
The natural haven blog says that the cuticle does not open and close this way. See the 2nd question in this post.
http://thenaturalhaven.blogspot.com/...ou-fix-it.html
I hate to be cold. Even if ice water made my hair look like Nicole Kidman's, I probably still wouldn't do it.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
I can get the water in my shower ice cold very easily, haha. It really works for me, I can always feel the difference between my "open" cuticles and "closed" cuticles. Plus, it helps my curls clump back together after a detangling session.
big chop: 03/09/2010.
modified cg.
medium/coarse | dense | normal porosity | 4b/3c with random sprinkles of 4a.

I rinse my hair with cold water almost every day. Have been doing it since I was a teen. It makes a difference for my sometimes wind/sun damaged 3b hair. Seals it up, helps with detangling, adds some shine.
In Western PA
Found NC in 2004. CG since 2-05, going grey since 9-05. 3B with some 3A.
Hair texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
Suave & VO5 cond, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
http://public.fotki.com/jeepcurlygurl/ password jeepy **updated Aug 2014**
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I don't know about sealing the cuticle -- though the cited article which claims it won't, does say that heat opens the cuticle, so I sense some cognitive dissonance there. However it sure does promote clumping.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Like Spiralli and turtles, when I have done a final rinse with cold water, I never noticed a difference. I had read the natural haven blog post that pedaheh mentioned and that seems to back up what we've experienced.

Also, would this even help at all if you are going to diffuse (with warm air, thus ruffling or at least somewhat reopening the cuticle) afterwards anyway?
Dry climate
2C/3A, fine texture, high porosity, medium-low density

For me, desert climate+porous hair+CG=inconsistent results!
I used to do a very cold water rinse as my final rinse. It didn't make that much difference for my hair so I stopped
Originally Posted by Spiralli
I do this sometimes and it does seem to make a difference for me - at least on my ends.
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pw - jack

Going natural for the summer...just a dab of ArcAngell!
when i use cold water to rinse it enhances my 3b curls and my hair gets clumped up and really hard to detangle for some reason idk why
thanks for all the advice and references, girls and guy! i have some reading to do!

erica
3a/b, fine, tends to be flat on top/at roots. Growing out damaged ends.
No-poo for over a year.

Experimenting with CV bars, AVG/J, and FSG.

Ultimate goal: NO PRODUCT!!! Considering Terressentials.
oh, and i forgot to mention that the recommendation was to dip in and squeeze a towel into the ice water, and then apply this to your hair by squeezing from the bottom - not actually showering in ice-cold water!
3a/b, fine, tends to be flat on top/at roots. Growing out damaged ends.
No-poo for over a year.

Experimenting with CV bars, AVG/J, and FSG.

Ultimate goal: NO PRODUCT!!! Considering Terressentials.
Here's an alternative point of view wrt the opening and closing of the hair cuticle (link below).

http://factoidz.com/hair-care-why-ri...hair-and-skin/

Like Spiralli and turtles, when I have done a final rinse with cold water, I never noticed a difference. I had read the natural haven blog post that pedaheh mentioned and that seems to back up what we've experienced.

Also, would this even help at all if you are going to diffuse (with warm air, thus ruffling or at least somewhat reopening the cuticle) afterwards anyway?
Originally Posted by tendrilly
All of my hair dryers have cold-shot settings so I actually end my drying with cold hair, which would close the cuticle again.

But this is like anything else. Doesn't really matter what people say or what science says. What works for some, doesn't work for others. We are told silicones are bad for hair, but some people use them with great results. We are told vinegar won't cleanse the hair, but some people have been cleaning their hair with vinegar for years. Etc etc. We just have to experiment and find what works for our own hair.
In Western PA
Found NC in 2004. CG since 2-05, going grey since 9-05. 3B with some 3A.
Hair texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
Suave & VO5 cond, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
http://public.fotki.com/jeepcurlygurl/ password jeepy **updated Aug 2014**
https://www.facebook.com/lifetheuniverseandtodd
jeepcurlygurl,

I couldn't agree more! For me personally, the cold water technique promotes clumping, and this leads to better looking curls. However, as you say everyone is different and it is all about experimenting and doing whatever works for you.

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Location: Queensland, Australia
Gender: Male - straight
Hair type: 3b - long, natural redhead and proud of it!
Cleanse: mop c-system clean shampoo - sulphate free (once a week)
Condition: mop mixed greens moisture conditioner
Leave-in: Joico leave-in detangler
Styling: PPS softer wax mixed with Redken All Soft Heavy Cream as a leave-in

Last edited by Simply Red; 06-29-2010 at 12:26 PM. Reason: Minor layout changes
A cool water rinse does seal it up and pops my texture. Ice water seems more like a torture method than a tip.
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A cool water rinse does seal it up and pops my texture. Ice water seems more like a torture method than a tip.
Originally Posted by Suburbanbushbabe
Exactly. Ice water ? WTF .. um and when the last time Tyra rocked her NATURALLY curly hair ?

Just use a cool water rinse before you get out the dang shower..

Ice water...
never tried it..@by the way my name is erica to

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