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Old 06-24-2010, 06:28 PM   #1
 
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Question Ice water???

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I just caught a bit on the Tyra show where she recommended that curly girls use ICE WATER before putting in product to 'seal' the hair. Has anyone tried this? Maybe a heightened form of sealing when we rinse with cool water in the shower?

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Old 06-24-2010, 08:08 PM   #2
 
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I used to do a very cold water rinse as my final rinse. It didn't make that much difference for my hair so I stopped
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:53 PM   #3
 
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I use neither because I don't like the cold water touching me. When I did it once I never notice a difference anyway.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:19 PM   #4
 
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Hello Erica,
Wow, hardly anyone seems to know about this! I am a huge fan of this technique, although I do not use ICE WATER as such, just COLD WATER. Really not sure whether there would be much difference between the two.

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:15 AM   #5
 
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People who do the ice queen method as written use cold water. The thinking is that it closes the cuticle. Lots of people report great success.
The natural haven blog says that the cuticle does not open and close this way. See the 2nd question in this post.
http://thenaturalhaven.blogspot.com/...ou-fix-it.html
I hate to be cold. Even if ice water made my hair look like Nicole Kidman's, I probably still wouldn't do it.
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:12 PM   #6
 
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I can get the water in my shower ice cold very easily, haha. It really works for me, I can always feel the difference between my "open" cuticles and "closed" cuticles. Plus, it helps my curls clump back together after a detangling session.
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I rinse my hair with cold water almost every day. Have been doing it since I was a teen. It makes a difference for my sometimes wind/sun damaged 3b hair. Seals it up, helps with detangling, adds some shine.
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I don't know about sealing the cuticle -- though the cited article which claims it won't, does say that heat opens the cuticle, so I sense some cognitive dissonance there. However it sure does promote clumping.
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Like Spiralli and turtles, when I have done a final rinse with cold water, I never noticed a difference. I had read the natural haven blog post that pedaheh mentioned and that seems to back up what we've experienced.

Also, would this even help at all if you are going to diffuse (with warm air, thus ruffling or at least somewhat reopening the cuticle) afterwards anyway?
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I used to do a very cold water rinse as my final rinse. It didn't make that much difference for my hair so I stopped
I do this sometimes and it does seem to make a difference for me - at least on my ends.
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:45 PM   #11
 
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when i use cold water to rinse it enhances my 3b curls and my hair gets clumped up and really hard to detangle for some reason idk why
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:50 PM   #12
 
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thanks for all the advice and references, girls and guy! i have some reading to do!

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oh, and i forgot to mention that the recommendation was to dip in and squeeze a towel into the ice water, and then apply this to your hair by squeezing from the bottom - not actually showering in ice-cold water!
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Here's an alternative point of view wrt the opening and closing of the hair cuticle (link below).

http://factoidz.com/hair-care-why-ri...hair-and-skin/

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Like Spiralli and turtles, when I have done a final rinse with cold water, I never noticed a difference. I had read the natural haven blog post that pedaheh mentioned and that seems to back up what we've experienced.

Also, would this even help at all if you are going to diffuse (with warm air, thus ruffling or at least somewhat reopening the cuticle) afterwards anyway?
All of my hair dryers have cold-shot settings so I actually end my drying with cold hair, which would close the cuticle again.

But this is like anything else. Doesn't really matter what people say or what science says. What works for some, doesn't work for others. We are told silicones are bad for hair, but some people use them with great results. We are told vinegar won't cleanse the hair, but some people have been cleaning their hair with vinegar for years. Etc etc. We just have to experiment and find what works for our own hair.
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Old 06-29-2010, 12:24 PM   #16
 
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jeepcurlygurl,

I couldn't agree more! For me personally, the cold water technique promotes clumping, and this leads to better looking curls. However, as you say everyone is different and it is all about experimenting and doing whatever works for you.

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A cool water rinse does seal it up and pops my texture. Ice water seems more like a torture method than a tip.
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A cool water rinse does seal it up and pops my texture. Ice water seems more like a torture method than a tip.
Exactly. Ice water ? WTF .. um and when the last time Tyra rocked her NATURALLY curly hair ?

Just use a cool water rinse before you get out the dang shower..

Ice water...
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never tried it..@by the way my name is erica to
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