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Old 12-03-2006, 09:39 AM   #1
 
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Default Cleansing conditioners for CO-washing

Hi everyone,
I tried to search for this topic but all I could get back were any posts with cleansing and conditioners, not the phrase, so forgive me if you've already been over this. Does anyone recommend cleansing or clarifying conditioners for CO-washing? If so, why and which ones? Which ones are not good? I abandoned CO-washing a while ago because my scalp always ended up getting greasy after a day or 2 and even after following all the suggestions nothing worked so I ended up having to 'poo. Now recently I've been seeing cleansing/clarifying conditioners and was wondering if they'd help.
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They've redone the v05 kiwi and lime , that's so sad since that was my fav conditioner wash. They do have a new kiwi and lime, same person makes it that should be on the shelf to try. The old formula was clarifying and works so well.
I don't see clarifying on conditioners as much where I shop anymore.
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Some people like the Suave clarifying conditioner to co wash.
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Blush I've been meaning to try that is it nice and light and thin enough to spread well? I guess for as cheap as that is I might as well go for it huh?

It would be nice to find a light replacement for the kiwi and lime squeeze. The suave aloe is nice but a bit too heavy for my hair during humid times.
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i use nature's gate herbal condish as my co wash. it's pretty light, and my roots never feel weighed down or greasy. you can always add a bit of lemon juice to your condish once in a while.

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Blush I've been meaning to try that is it nice and light and thin enough to spread well? I guess for as cheap as that is I might as well go for it huh?

It would be nice to find a light replacement for the kiwi and lime squeeze. The suave aloe is nice but a bit too heavy for my hair during humid times.
I personally haven't used it but I read on another thread that some people liked it for co washing because it was so light. I say give it a shot!
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Old 12-03-2006, 06:17 PM   #7
 
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I must have missed that thread, thanks so much I do believe I"ll try that!
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Devacurl No Poo is a fantastic cleansing conditioner.
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I think diluting the conditioner you cleanse with helps alot my hair feels so much cleaner this way
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:13 PM   #10
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A conditioner that is worth trying to co-wash with is Nioxin's Scalp Therapy Conditioner. I actually use this conditioner, and it is faboulous! It does have scalp clarifying ingredients in it. And an added bonus to it is that it will help to retard hair loss as well.
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I'm not one of the ingredient gurus here but I don't think the new VO5 formulas changed enough to make much of a difference. The Kiwi & Lime still has extracts of kiwi, lime, rosemary, and lemongrass and I think those are the ingredients that help clarify and remove build up. But, again, I'm no expert.
I'm still using the Kiwi & Lime as my clarifying conditioner (along with a once a week vinegar rinse) and my hair doesn't seem to notice any difference.
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Thanks Jeep because I sure want to check that one out. I miss it! I have the best hair days using that.
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I like either DevaCurl NoPoo or Suave Clarifying Conditioner. I alternate them, depending on how dirty/dry my hair feels. The Deva is richer, but still does a great job cleansing.
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I like the Nature's Gate Henna Conditioner too, it is gloppy but not heavy and rinses out well. The V05 Kiwi Lime made my dry hair even dryer, but for the record I had to stop using Devacurl No-Poo because it made my scalp greasy. So: Nature's Gate Henna. Conditioned hair without a gross scalp. Their Tea Tree conditioner was also very nice when I was having dandruff issues at the start of CG.
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They've redone the v05 kiwi and lime , that's so sad since that was my fav conditioner wash. They do have a new kiwi and lime, same person makes it that should be on the shelf to try. The old formula was clarifying and works so well.
I don't see clarifying on conditioners as much where I shop anymore.
They changed it??? I noticed some VO5s are coming in a new bottle but I thought the formulas had remained the same... Less than 2 weeks ago I got a large bottle of K&L and it's exactly the same as the one I'm still using (but the bottle is the same too). I'll have to look up the new one and look at the label to see what's different and if it could make a difference.

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If you can still find the old one (in the teardrop shaped bottle) give it a try, it removes oil and other build-up very well IMO and it's so cheap it's worth it (I got a 22.5 oz. bottle at Dollar Tree).
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Default What is C.O. Wash?

Sorry ladies, and gents. I am new here. What is a co wash? Is it the same as washing hair with conditioner, or different? Thanks ahead of time.

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Old 12-05-2006, 06:59 PM   #17
 
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Redhead yes it's the same thing we're just shortening it so it's easier to type.

The V05 has definitely changed. If your bottle looks the same then they had some of the old formula. You can see it on their site. My store has been out since they changed it and the new ones are creeping in slowly but surely.
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I immediately went to the site last night but they don't list the ingredients. I don't know why but several other sites I've been to don't provide the list of ingredients of their products, I find that very annoying. :x

I'm dying to know because I like the CO the way it is and I've already lost two of my favorite COs to reformulation. They have a feature for completing a mini-survey about their products, I accidentally opened that for the K&L and one of the questions is how moisturizing the CO is (from 1 to 5) and since it has a reputation of drying the hair (used as a finishing CO) maybe they decided to add more moisturizers.
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Sorry, dp!
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Well, I co-washed for like 2 days. I used lots of water mixed with the co (Suave naturals tropical coconut). My hair at the roots didn't look greasy on top but in areas I didn't get so well, it did look a little oily. In addition, my hair kept getting bigger (ie more volume) and straighter. So I conditioned (full strength) and used my 'poo (currently L'Oreal Vive, which has a mild sulfate and a cone until I can find a good low 'poo that I like that lathers) and the results were instantaneous in the shower.

So I guess my hair either
1. Definitely needs a low-'poo.
2. Or I need to co-wash with a different conditioner, maybe one of the clarifying conditioners we're discussing.
3. Or I have some sort of buildup (maybe from the 'poo) that needs to be removed before I can begin co-washing.

Any ideas?

VO5: I used this one before, I think, the Kiwi and Lime. Does it say it's clarifying? The one I used did not say so. But I couldn't stand the smell (too sicky-sweet), and maybe I needed to mix it with water. I seem to remember the same results as with the Suave. But at that time I was not mixing with water.
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