Any devanchan trained stylists in uk?

Boo Boo · 12-03-2006, 01:50 PM

Are there any deva - curl stylists in the uk? I want a beautiful curly cut that isn't marred by layers that make me look like I have two different hairstyles!!!
My hair seems so ratty at the moment and it just makes me want to chop it short so that it at least looks together!!
Sorry to moan...

curlylaura · 12-04-2006, 09:34 AM

I wish I knew of one. Lorraine Massey is a Brit so you'd think she'd train some over here.

I feel you on the 2 hair styles thing, I have the same thing going on.

Boo Boo · 12-04-2006, 12:42 PM

exactly - why doesn't she come and train a few British hairdressers - you explain to them what you want but they still just cut it like it is straight hair!! I want to encourgae the curls to form nicely together not to go all stringy...

SuZen · 12-04-2006, 01:56 PM

The people who get trained come to Devachan, and I think they pay for the training, so my guess is that UK stylists don't want to fly to NYC for training!

curlylaura · 12-04-2006, 02:29 PM

Maybe Lorraine could set up a Devachan salon over here, then hairdressers wouldn't have to go to NYC for training, or better yet, hairdressers everywhere are taught how to cut curly hair as part of their basic training.

Ah well, I can dream of having 1 hairstyle on my head instead of 2!

Boo Boo · 12-04-2006, 02:51 PM

It would be so great to have a salon here that was specifically for curly hair. Despite what Lorraine says in her book I have never had a hairdresser cut my hair dry!!

pitgirl · 12-04-2006, 04:11 PM

Just on the side of UK hairdressers;

They are trained how to cut curly hair, as discussed on another post, the devachan way is not the ultimate way, it's LM's idea of how curls should be cut.

Curly hair is cut slightly differently to straight over here.
I have my hair cut pulled straight purely because I cannot stand uneveness, and I have cut quite a few curlies in the same way, and their hair never has a problem with formation etc. Curls curl from the roots after all and not the ends. When I have mine cut, and styled if you look at the ends they have formed a point on their own.

Dry cutting is very difficult and only really works when you cut individual curls.

I recommend the best way to find a good curly cutter is to find a hairdresser with curly hair. x

Boo Boo · 12-05-2006, 12:36 PM

Hi Pitgirl,

Yes I know they are trained to cut curly hair - but why do they manage to mess it up so often? I rarely find a hairdresser that cuts it well - it would be so nice to be able to go somewhere and just know that they knew what they were doing whether the stylist had curly hair or not - in any other profession that is what you would expect! So why not in haoirdressing?

pitgirl · 12-06-2006, 05:15 PM

I think it has something to do with fashion, straight has been in for so long they just forget how to do, and most hairdressers here know all they need to, but cannot put 2 and 2 together, they are just so used to straight.

Its all about trial and error.

Alexa · 12-07-2006, 02:36 PM

My hairdresser is not too bad on the shape side of things & because my hair is not super curly the pulling it straight to cut it method works OK for me.
The biggest problem I have is getting her not to thin it with a razor, she does give in to me eventually but why does she not know that razoring makes curls frizzy?

My stylist does actually like curly hair & she diffues it pretty well but if the junior is drying it she always wants to straighten (I don't let her though

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After saying this I just trimmed my own hair this evening & it looks OK up to now. £30 is a lot to pay for a trim when I don't really know how my hair is going to turn out.

Oh & Boo Boo, I can only wish that there were Deva salons here in the UK. Maybe one day................

jennyfurrens · 12-07-2006, 03:29 PM

I've never had a stylist ask me if i want my hair thinned out wiht a razor before

but it sounds horrible! and what are the benefits of this exactly? i dont think i'd ever let it happen in a million years. it's basically destroying the hair strands entirely right?

SuZen · 12-07-2006, 07:15 PM

Well, it's a "thinning" technique, but most people say it causes the ends to split like crazy. I think a better technique for really thick hair is to cut the individual curls as in a Ouidad cut.

Alexa · 12-07-2006, 11:58 PM

When I had my hair in a short pixie cut I used to like when it was razored, it made nice wispy ends instead of clumps.
My hair was very thick when it was short & the razoring gave it a 'choppy' effect. And of course I used to get it cut at least every 6 weeks so split ends were not a problem.
I also know a lot of people who just get their fringe thinned or razored & that works fine.
So I think razoring can be a good tecnique but not on hair like ours.