What ingredients give hold?

redcelticcurls · 12-05-2006, 09:06 AM

I was just wondering. I have no idea.

memes · 12-05-2006, 09:13 AM

Acrylates, PVP, PVA and probably lots of others that I've never heard of

Michelle

laurabeth33 · 12-05-2006, 09:17 AM

...what memes said plus polyquats (especially, it seems, polyquat-4), VA...

HalfWavyHalfCurly · 12-06-2006, 04:13 AM

In some natural products it would be gums, like tragacanth and arabic, and, of course flax seed and aloe vera gels, usually combined with other ingredients to reinforce their gentle effect.

Darby · 12-22-2006, 09:35 AM

I've just been doing a search here on polyquats and I think I have found what gives me second day hair -- and that would be polyquaternium-4. I've read that it can build up but I don't mind using a sulfate shampoo or my detoxifier from Aveda once a week or so.
I either use the product with the polyquat or I don't get second day hair.

SYB · 12-22-2006, 12:38 PM

Carbomer gives hold too.

HalfWavyHalfCurly · 12-22-2006, 12:42 PM

Wow, that's a very interesting observation, I've seen that pq in quite a few mousses, it's in the "Aussome Volume" one I just got from K-mart, will have to try it soon to see if that works for me too! I have been totally oblivious about pq buildup, wouldn't know what it feels or looks like but maybe I've never had any (or much?) since I've been on a restless product rotation for over 2 years now...

I honestly would be much happier with just 2-3 good products like before but in my case buying cheap stuff for my hair is a psychological outlet...