Seborrheic Dermatitis: Raw Honey Treatment

Hi All,

I started Raw Honey therapy on 24th and applied the second time yesterday (26th). I am following all the directions and washing with raw honey twice a day on the day I am not wearring mask for 3+ hours. I noticed that my face skin and scalp are dryer and flaky (honestly, it seems it's getting worst each time I do it). Itching has increased a little too. I am applying virgin coconut oil, but it won't get rid of dryness. I heard/read that results don't show until end of first week, but is it normal that it gets worst before it gets better?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
Originally Posted by beucfree
Hey,
what I read about the raw honey treatment is that it does get worse before it gets better. I never used raw honey by itself but I do blend it with raw shea butter. Maybe you should try that.






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Hi All,

I started Raw Honey therapy on 24th and applied the second time yesterday (26th). I am following all the directions and washing with raw honey twice a day on the day I am not wearring mask for 3+ hours. I noticed that my face skin and scalp are dryer and flaky (honestly, it seems it's getting worst each time I do it). Itching has increased a little too. I am applying virgin coconut oil, but it won't get rid of dryness. I heard/read that results don't show until end of first week, but is it normal that it gets worst before it gets better?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
Originally Posted by beucfree
I did read that it seems worse before it gets better. I finished the whole month and now do my weekly treatments. I did not do the honey wash twice a day. My face started getting a little irritated by the 3 hour honey sessions every other day, so I decided not to wash with it so much. I use the oil cleanse method to wash, so I did that instead but only once a day. I also did not use the coconut oil at first. I used extra virgin olive oil, because I was already using that and love it. I did end up buying the coconut oil and like it for some things, but it isn't as moisturizing. I find the extra virgin olive oil much more moisturizing that the coconut. Maybe you could try that instead of the coconut or alternate them. Sometimes, I put the coconut on in the mornings. I'd cut back on the honey washes. It exfoliates I think, so that would irritate your face if it was on it all the time.

Yes, my head and face were itching like mad the first week while I was doing the treatments. Then, after that, they were ok. So, I'd think that was normal. It's also Winter where I am, and my scalp is pretty dry. That would be a cause for flaking too. I don't know about the weather where you are. I'd give it the rest of the month if you can stand it. I think my scalp was great after the first week or two. Good Luck.
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Holy bee barf, Batman!

Ok, so I've been doing this for the last week religiously. I've done it 4 times already. I've had to sit on my hands to keep from posting before the week was over. I was excited after the first treatment. The first time, I only put the honey on my scalp and behind my ears. I bought some pure raw honey from my grocery store. The next three times, I put it on my scalp, behind my ears, all over my face, and inside my ears. My face is super soft. I think the honey exfoliates, because normally when I cleanse, I have to scrub a bit with the washcloth because of the SD. Now, I just do my normal oil cleanse and don't really have to scrub! I alternate the oil cleanse with honey cleansing. So, I know I'm jumping around with this reply, but I guess I'm just too excited to post properly. I'm sold on this treatment! I haven't used the coconut oil, because I'm already using EVOO and love it. So, I just put the EVOO on my face and hairline after the treatment. I also put on a turbie twist while the honey is on my scalp, because it does drip and gets very messy otherwise.

What more can I say? I can see my scalp along my hairline! Usually, I have patches of flakes that are really embarrassing, and after I have co-washed and my hair is wet and the flakes are wet and I say to myself, just let me scratch that one little spot off and then I have flakes all over the place in my wet hair and want to cry. ALL my flake patches along the front of my hairline are gone. The rest of my head feels wonderful too. I have suffered from this at least since I was 16...started with my scalp and moved on to my face when I was 18. My forehead would get so itchy, red, scaly, and sore.

I am totally sold on this treatment, and it's only been a week. I can't wait to see what happens after the month is up. Hopefully, I can just do it weekly like the article says and have it stay under control. I fully intend to keep doing honey washes every other day and oil cleanses the alternate days. The honey works better than the prescription shampoo did and better than the steroid creams.

I really can't express how excited I am about this.

I can post again in another week to update further.

Thanks for listening!

*forgot to mention that I have also not been losing as much hair. I hope this treatment is helping with my hair fallage. *
Originally Posted by curry curls
I am intrested in doing the Honey treatment on my face, and I would like to know what the oil cleanses.
The oil cleanse is a method of cleaning your face with oil.

The Oil Cleansing Method - A simple, cleansing facial massage for clear skin!

I used to use castor oil mixed with extra virgin olive oil, but I found the castor oil too drying. Now, I use extra virgin coconut oil mixed with sweet almond oil. I love it. I moisturize with the almond oil. I've been using the oil cleanse method for almost three years now with no problem.

I was using the olive oil to moisturize after the honey treatment, but now I'm using the sweet almond oil. I like it better. I didn't find the coconut oil moisturizing enough for me. I do like it to cleanse with though.
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Co-wash: Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle or Trader Joe's Nourish Spa
Rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm
Leave-in/Styling: Kenra Moisturizing Conditioner
Definitely trying this! I have honey applied right now! I don't thinki have SB, BUT i have very bad dandruff with scaling and scabbing =/ mostly at my widows peak and center if my head....

Hope this works, I'll update =)
When my skin flared up with itching and flaking in certain spots, raw honey+aloe vera gel (to help it spread easier) were really soothing and healing. I did them nightly for about a week and it really calmed things down for me.
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I bought a big jar of raw honey and would really like to try this! I've been getting flareups recently.

This is the link to the study I found: Old PubMed Article - Effects of crude honey on chronic seborrheic dermatitis

^It looks like the treatment was done either once weekly, or for 3 hrs every other day for 4 weeks. Seems intense in the latter scenario. I'm wondering if I could mix it with my shampoo!

I also tried washing my face with honey last night. It was very luxurious and smelled amazing (obviously). I can't tell if it's actually good for my face though... or what benefits it would provide, or how well it cleanses. I'd be interested in it for preventing acne.
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I bought a big jar of raw honey and would really like to try this! I've been getting flareups recently.

This is the link to the study I found: Old PubMed Article - Effects of crude honey on chronic seborrheic dermatitis

^It looks like the treatment was done either once weekly, or for 3 hrs every other day for 4 weeks. Seems intense in the latter scenario. I'm wondering if I could mix it with my shampoo!

I also tried washing my face with honey last night. It was very luxurious and smelled amazing (obviously). I can't tell if it's actually good for my face though... or what benefits it would provide, or how well it cleanses. I'd be interested in it for preventing acne.
Originally Posted by wavydaze
Honey has natural antioxidants and some peroxide. I'd think the peroxide would help in preventing acne flareups.

I took the time to do some reading today about peroxide in honey, as I knew the two were linked, but now how or why. It turns out that honey in a jar doesn't really have any peroxide content. However, it does have sugar and an enzyme that breaks down sugar. On its own, it doesn't have the conditions needed for the chemical reaction to occur, but when it comes in contact with skin or body fluids, the differing pH and the sodium content will start the chemical reaction and produce hydrogen peroxide slowly over time.

Honey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Hydrogen Peroxide Producing Capacity of Honey | PRLog

Raw Honey | Sleeping Bear Farms

Study on how much peroxide is produced at differing dilution levels:
The effect of dilution on the rate o... [J Altern Complement Med. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI

Rosacea forum thread (see 3rd post for an opinion from a honey researcher)
Water/Honey Preperation as it relates to the production of Hydrogen Peroxide
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^Thanks for your reply Geek_Chic!

So I'm guessing mix with a little water as per the study, 9:1 honey to water then apply.

I'm wondering, am I supposed to shampoo before I apply the honey treatment, or after? If I shampoo before, will any stickiness be left? Very curious; when I washed my face all the honey was water soluble and came off, but I don't know about the hair and scalp since it has more crevices where the honey can hide!

I'm also wondering if I should just apply the honey to my whole head of hair... because doesn't it lighten the hair? It might be strange to have a reverse ombré of my hair being lighter by my roots then getting darker.
fine - normal porosity*?- medium density - normal elasticity. Hard water. SoCal.
*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

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Happy to chime in, wavydaze. It was interesting reading.

I don't know that there's any standard for application. I'd definitely do a normal cleanse (cowash or shampoo) before doing a honey treatment, just to make sure there isn't anything between the honey and scalp, so it'd get the maximum benefit of the good stuff in the honey. I wouldn't think the honey would be any more likely to hang around after a rinse than the gelatin pt. I don't massage mine into the scalp, but I do apply it from root to tip. I never notice my hair or scalp feeling gelatinous afterward. Being water soluble, I don't think you'd have sticky hair after rinsing either.

I know that once warmed, honey doesn't produce peroxide. I'd guess that once a certain temperature is reached, the peroxide producing enzymes are destroyed. However, if you're using raw honey, warming it up also probably lessens the beneficial properties, perhaps losing some of the antioxidant properties. So, I think if it was me, and I was really worried about it lightening my hair, I'd maybe do a strand test first, like you would with hair color you were trying for the first time. If you aren't particularly concerned, you could just wing it and hope for the best, or just apply it to all your hair. Maybe just watch for any cumulative effects over time.
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