extreme breakage // wave nouveau

about two weeks ago, maybe a little less, i had a wave nouveau placed into my hair. and it was okay for the first week. i ditched the products because it was a bit too greasy and moved on to some other things.

i now use it's a 10 miracle leave in (which the hairdresser recommended as an alternative to the wn finishing mist), some tea tree oil at my scalp, and hair rules curly whip. and of course some coconut oil and olive oil for added moisture. and i use the sally's version of the redken anti-snap and the wn finishing mist on my ends. also i only wash my hair once a week. (just in case you needed to know my routine to help)

now it's been about two weeks and around five days ago my hair started breaking. i was told shedding was nomral. but this was not shedding, it was breakage (not from the root tho the pieces of hair were very long). but the breakage is extreme. i can't run my hands through my hair to apply product without a handful of hairs coming out. it's not just ends either, but almost root hairs (however not quite because i never see the white bulb on the end). and i've begun developing thinning and "bald spots" in the crown of my head and lots of small ones all in my hair.

i went back. but the original hair dresser was just no help at all. all he did was saturate my hair with the wn lotion and told me i wasn't using enough. it's been two days, my hair is still completely saturated with the product. and the breakage is still occurring.

has anyone been through this or have any suggestions on something i can do to stop the breakage?

and hello, this is my first post, exciting : ). sorry for such a long story.

edit i /think/ i'm around a 3b, 3c. and i am 1/3 Black, 1/3 Asian (it's a mixture of some Chinese, Japanese, and if i'm not mistaken Vietnamese), and 1/3 Caribbean/Guyanese - so my hair is rather course. i've also had relaxer perviously in my hair. it's been a little over a year since my last one.

Last edited by ninfee; 09-04-2010 at 04:49 PM.
As far as I know, from the VERY little I've read, a Wave Nouveau is NEVER EVER EVER supposed to be put on relaxed hair. If your hair had been relaxed and the relaxed part hadn't been trimmed off, the WN will cause breakage.

Let me get some linky up for you:

http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/foru...07&PID=4052173

Did you reseach Wave Nouveau's effect on hair before having it?

Both procedures (relaxer, WN) are really harsh, harsh on hair.

I suggest you ask this question in the subforum for relaxing or even transitioning (since they have ladies with breakage there).

Protein reconstructors and intense conditioners--may wanna research those.

But the sad fact is that if your hair is in such a fragile state that it's just breaking off with a mere touch of your hands....you may need to cut it off and start fresh with unprocessed hair. Hope not, but that may be a possibility.

Hope you find something helpful--but with such harsh chemical processes, I can say I'd be worried...

I hope you can find a way to embrace your natural texture and optimize it and never have to use chemical texturizers again...
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MirCurls is right. It's the Wave on top of relaxed ahir that's causing breakage. You may need to have a hair cut if the breakage continue. Keep your hair very moisturized.
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thank you MirCurls, and afrosheenqueen. i decided to take a plunge and cut some of it off. however, i couldn't part with all of it. and i'm taking extra extra care. i used a pt and a deep conditioner. i just used the gvp joico k-pack because i already had it handy.

it's still breaking off a little bit, but i'm trying my darnest to resist touching it (i would run my fingers through the ends just to check if it was still breaking).

thank you for your help : )
thank you MirCurls, and afrosheenqueen. i decided to take a plunge and cut some of it off. however, i couldn't part with all of it. and i'm taking extra extra care. i used a pt and a deep conditioner. i just used the gvp joico k-pack because i already had it handy.

it's still breaking off a little bit, but i'm trying my darnest to resist touching it (i would run my fingers through the ends just to check if it was still breaking).

thank you for your help : )
Originally Posted by ninfee
I really hope you can grow it out fast and that the breakade decelerates/stops.

Remember to check the various subforums on breakage/transitioning/etc, causee there are tips on protective styling and how to help hair grow out healthfully and maybe faster.

I know that eating more protein and taking Biotin and a multivitamin are helping me some, so it's worth seeing what info is out there that might suit you with your unique conditions (physical, medical, lifestyle). And really, stop using relaxers/texturizers. Get the healthy growth out and find a great look for you. With that ethnic mix you have, I'm thinking your natural hair must have insane potential.

Best of luck!
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i've also had relaxer perviously in my hair. it's been a little over a year since my last one.
As other said, this is likely the problem. Basically you got a jheri curl over a regular relaxer. Wave nouveau and relaxer chemicals don't mix. Be prepared for more breakage; keep it as hydrated and moisturized as possible.
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i've also had relaxer perviously in my hair. it's been a little over a year since my last one.
As other said, this is likely the problem. Basically you got a jheri curl over a regular relaxer. Wave nouveau and relaxer chemicals don't mix. Be prepared for more breakage; keep it as hydrated and moisturized as possible.
Originally Posted by Suburbanbushbabe
Concurring with what everyone else has already stated.

Back, in the day (1980s) when I decided to get a curly perm, I had to get all the relaxed her cut off, thus my first BC.
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I know this is old, but I have personal experience.

I was completely natural for 6 months (with some relaxed ends). I couldn't take it and I got a Wave Nouvou.

I had EXTREME breakage. The WN juice did not help. Once you allow your hair to NOT be damp with the juice, the hair will break and there is NO way to stop it.

For years afterwards, I've been dealing with terrible breakage (not as bad as the WN).

I'm getting it under control now that I am using Mizani Butter Blends. But I just wanted to say your story is not uncommon. I don't suggest WN to ANYONE.

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