Short Layers vs Long Layers

I tried searching around and didn't really find anything that really addressed this, so sorry if this is a repeat!

Some background: I have what is probably considered to be BSL 2c/3a hair. The majority of my length is wavy/curly, and the last two inches clump into ringlets. It's normal/coarse, pretty thick, and can get weighed down.

I do have long layers and I love them. But over the past few months, there has been a definite decrease in volume (esp near the crown) and increase in flat-top. I've tried clipping, but it doesn't do much for me.

Someone suggested shorter layers, and while I admit I have been thinking about them I'm also pretty hesitant. I had a bad experience with them a few years before going CG. But I really want to get some volume going back there!

My hair also loses curl as it gets shorter. Would shorter layers essentially mean pieces of straight-ish hair on top? I might be more willing if I had a curl wizard for a stylist, but mine seems pretty clueless. I have to be very specific in how much I want trimmed and constantly remind her how much shrinkage I get, or I get burned.

Any thoughts/experiences/suggestions are welcome TIA!
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maybe you should get a consultation with a cerified Deva stylist or a stylist that specializes in curly hair cutting & styling, my hair is a lot curlier than yours but when hair started getting past BSL, I had waves instead of curls, I have recently had a Devacut & I have curls, volume & body again, without losing a lot of length. Good Luck
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I tried searching around and didn't really find anything that really addressed this, so sorry if this is a repeat!

Some background: I have what is probably considered to be BSL 2c/3a hair. The majority of my length is wavy/curly, and the last two inches clump into ringlets. It's normal/coarse, pretty thick, and can get weighed down.

I do have long layers and I love them. But over the past few months, there has been a definite decrease in volume (esp near the crown) and increase in flat-top. I've tried clipping, but it doesn't do much for me.

Someone suggested shorter layers, and while I admit I have been thinking about them I'm also pretty hesitant. I had a bad experience with them a few years before going CG. But I really want to get some volume going back there!

My hair also loses curl as it gets shorter. Would shorter layers essentially mean pieces of straight-ish hair on top? I might be more willing if I had a curl wizard for a stylist, but mine seems pretty clueless. I have to be very specific in how much I want trimmed and constantly remind her how much shrinkage I get, or I get burned.

Any thoughts/experiences/suggestions are welcome TIA!
Originally Posted by curlyjenn10
My hair definitely isn't as curly as yours, but I definitely have the same problem. My shortest layer is pretty much shoulder length now, and I feel like it's weighing down my top. In the past, I have had my shortest layer be chin length, and it really seemed to help my canopy hair curl better (I think just because there was less weight pulling that hair down). I think you should try slightly shorter layers, but maybe nothing too drastic? That way, if you get weird straight pieces they will be back to curly in no time.
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sorry i cant offer any advice, but your hair sounds exactly like mine!
i actually have my first appt set up for wednesday with a deva-trained stylist. im hoping to get the same insight youre looking for. it makes me very nervous to think that trying to get rid of a little length will result in curl loss *yikes*
i'll keep you posted if youd like...
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How long are they now? Mine start at cheek length and I notice better curl formation at that length vs. longer. But chin length is a good place to start nothing too drastic.
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Thanks for the suggestions!

Definitely keep us posted, ana! I think the closest Deva stylist is at least an hour away, and I don't really have the funds anyway. It would be nice to have a stylist that could work with my curls more. At the end of my cuts, mine will scrunch my product-less hair until it's barely wavy and say "look at those curls!"

My shortest layer is about an inch past my shoulder, so I definitely have some room to play with. The last time I had short layers (cut by a different person at the same salon) I ended up with 2-inch pieces of hair at the crown. It was horrifying.
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