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Old 10-22-2010, 10:55 AM   #1
 
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Default Cheap Co-Washes vs. Expensive Co-washes???

Ladies, I wanted to know what is the deal with expensive Co-washes... like DevaCurl, Wen, and etc. What makes expensive co-washes different, better or horrible from the cheap ones. I only tried the cheap conditioners like Suave, Vo5, and HE. They clean and don't strip my hair out at all, so really what the difference.

Which type of co-washes do you prefer?
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:48 PM   #2
 
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I've tried the so-called cheap conditioners when I began the CG journey. They actually dried out my hair. I then switched to the mid-range cost conditioners, like Aubrey Organics. Later, I tried the expensive ones, which really left my hair moisturized after the cowash . So now I alternate between mid price range conditioners and the expensive ones for cowashing.

It all comes down to formulation, hair porosity and texture. The only way to tell is to try out different ones. The best way to do that is by starting out with cheap conditioners, then work up towards different price ranges. Hopefully, the curly girl doesn't have to go up too far in price!
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:38 PM   #3
 
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I cowashed with cheap conditioners for six months--it was nothing special. I jumped on the natural soap bar "bandwagon" when it was popular two years ago and never jumped off. It made a BIG difference in my hair. When CJ Daily Fix came out, I tried it. It's great. I use it every few weeks for it's chelating properties and take it to the salon when I get haircut/highlight. My salon carries Deva NoPoo. I find it very drying since they changed the ingredients.
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Since I use a moisturizing conditioner after co-washing I go for cheap cowash conditioners.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:38 PM   #5
 
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I started with Suave and then discovered Giovanni TTTT conditioner. I have a dry, flaky scalp and this stuff is pretty good at keeping my scalp calm. I also tried and liked Aura Cherry Almond Bark from Sally's. Both are protein free (which is important to me) and under $8.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:19 AM   #6
 
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I tried Curl Junkie Daily Fix and it works fine but I don't want to pay the cost of the bottle and having it shipped. Someone here talked about Bioinfusion Rosemary Mint at Walgreens. I got some and it was pretty much the same as CJDF (a stronger mint scent tho), with a much better price at 9.99 for 33oz. It's always on 'sale' and the price hasn't changed since I started buying it in April.

CJDF is the only expensive one I've tried. For cheap ones Suave makes me itch like a fiend and I don't remember what Tressemme did but I didn't like it nearly as much.
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:59 AM   #7
 
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Bionfusion Rosemary Mint Condish Ingredients
Deionized Water (Aqua) , Rosmarinus Officinalis Leaf Extract (Rosemary) , Mentha Piperita Leaf Extract (Peppermint) , Cetyl Alcohol , Stearalkonium Chloride , Polyquaternium 11 , Olealkonium Chloride , Peppermint Oil (Mentha Piperita) , Panthenol , Glycerin , Jojoba Oil (Buxus Chinensis) , Wheat Amino Acid , Tocopherol , Grapefruit Seed Extract (Citrus Grandis) , Diazolidinyl Urea , Quaternium 22

CJ Daily Fix Ingredients:

Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetrimonium Chloride, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, PEG -7 Olivate, Guar Hydroxypropytrimonium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, Hydrolyzed Oat Flour, Mentha Piperita (Pepperment) Leaf Extract, Matricaria Recuitita (Chamomile) Flower Extract, Yucca Leaf Extract, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Leaf Extract, Melissa Officinalis (Melissa) Leaf Extract, Polysorbate 60, Equisetum Arvense (Horsetail) Leaf Extract, Tocopheryl Acetate, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Fragrance.

These 2 products are very different. One is a conditioner with no add'l cleansing ingredients so it's limited in the cleansing department. CJ DF is a chelating creamy cleanser with additional cleansing and conditioning ingredients.

They really are not anything alike ingredients wisem I'm not sure why it's being compared to CJ DF? Doesn't mean it won't work as a co-wash but I doubt it would do more then the $1 Suaves and Vo5's do.
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I use cheap conditioners like Suave, V05, Tresemme, Herbal Essence, Pantene, etc. for my daily cowashes. I have also tried mid-price ($10+) conditioners to cowash, too. I noticed no difference in my hair so I went back to the cheap stuff. I also moisturize after I cowash so the cheap stuff works just fine for me.
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Old 10-23-2010, 03:34 PM   #9
 
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When I first started CG, I was spending the money on Jessicurl, Deva, etc. I am trying to limit my co-washing conditioners to being as far under $1/oz as possible, with $1/oz being my max, including shipping. I am finding that the leave-in, weekly DT, and styling products I use have more impact on what my hair looks like than the co-wash product.
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Old 10-23-2010, 03:54 PM   #10
 
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I prefer them to be under $10 but not dirt cheap like Suave or v05, I tried those and thought they sucked.. had to use ALOT to get the job done, and went through bottles faster. Also, you need a seperate rinse out after using them, so them being cheap didnt really matter.

My favorites are YesToCucumbers, Tresemme, & Trader Joes conditioners.. ones in that range.. because theyre cheap enough to use as co-washes but rich enough for me to not need a separate conditioner after.

Im going to try CJ Daily Fix soon though, but id only use it every once in a while for its chelating properties.. im happy with the ones I use now..
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:36 PM   #11
 
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wavysue, I totally agree with you. Only similarity between the two products is that they smell like peppermint!! The Biofusion has Polyquaternium 11, some people have serious issues with polyquats and build up.
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:56 PM   #12
 
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Also wanted to add that I always use a different rinse out conditioner in addition to my cowash...my hair needs the extra moisture!
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Old 10-23-2010, 07:27 PM   #13
 
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I use only cheap conditioners (Suave, VO5, some cheapos from Sally's). My hair loves them. I've tried expensive ones thinking they would make some sort of difference. Nope. No difference for me. Yay!
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YMMV
I never said they were identical. I should have clarified and said they worked exactly the same on my hair/scalp.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:25 AM   #15
 
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I used VO5 for awhile and my hair didn't look too good. Now I just use it as a cowash and use GVP Conditioning Balm as a rinse out and leave in and my hair looks great. My starving college girl budget precludes me from trying any products above $10.
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:36 PM   #16
 
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Default V05 & Daily Fix Combo

When I cowash, I always wash & rinse twice so I use V05 first then CJDF because I luv CJDF and want the bottle to last longer....just purchased my 2nd bottle.
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