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Old 11-03-2010, 04:02 AM   #1
 
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Since Coconut Oil is considered a moisturizer since it can pentrate the shaft, does that mean I cannot seal with it?
Currently I use a leave in conditioner to moisturize my hair and then I seal with cocunut oil...is this right or wrong.
And if I use coconut oil as a moisturizer, am I supposed to put another oil on top of that?
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:38 PM   #2
 
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From my understanding oils don't have the ability to moisturize your hair. Oils help to seal in the moisture. Moisture equals water. I use a leave in that has Water/Aqua as one of the first ingredients and then I seal with an oil or butter.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:08 PM   #3
 
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From my understanding oils don't have the ability to moisturize your hair. Oils help to seal in the moisture. Moisture equals water. I use a leave in that has Water/Aqua as one of the first ingredients and then I seal with an oil or butter.
I also use a water based leave in as a moisturizer, but recently I have been using coconut oil to seal, but I have heard many people say hey use coconut oil to moisturize since it can penetrate the shaft, which is why I am confused.
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Since Coconut Oil is considered a moisturizer since it can pentrate the shaft, does that mean I cannot seal with it?
Currently I use a leave in conditioner to moisturize my hair and then I seal with cocunut oil...is this right or wrong.
And if I use coconut oil as a moisturizer, am I supposed to put another oil on top of that?
Perhaps it is both. If coconut oil is working for you as a sealant, I don't see why you would stop just because some categorize it as a moisturizer too? A sealing moisturizer sounds good to me.

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Back to basics people...

Coconut oil is oil...

Oil is NOT moisture...

Moisture = water at a molecular level

The only moisture out there is water - either as water, humidity, aloe, etc.

Oils are used to seal in moisture by coating the hair shaft and preventing the water from evaporating.
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Since Coconut Oil is considered a moisturizer since it can pentrate the shaft, does that mean I cannot seal with it?
Currently I use a leave in conditioner to moisturize my hair and then I seal with cocunut oil...is this right or wrong.
And if I use coconut oil as a moisturizer, am I supposed to put another oil on top of that?
Perhaps it is both. If coconut oil is working for you as a sealant, I don't see why you would stop just because some categorize it as a moisturizer too? A sealing moisturizer sounds good to me.

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Well I just started using it, so Im not quite sure if it works yet
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It depends who you ask and where you get your information. Some say that coconut oil is different from other oils because it has the ability to penetrate the hair shaft. Search around so you can draw your own conclusion.
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Since Coconut Oil is considered a moisturizer since it can pentrate the shaft, does that mean I cannot seal with it?
Currently I use a leave in conditioner to moisturize my hair and then I seal with cocunut oil...is this right or wrong.
And if I use coconut oil as a moisturizer, am I supposed to put another oil on top of that?
I think w/ coconut oil you may have to reapply it more often than say...shea butter which is heavier or olive oil.

I don't see coconut causing any damage or preventing you from retaining length b/c it is either moisturizing or sealing and both are beneficial.

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If you do find your hair getting dried out faster you may need to use a heavier sealant tho...
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:34 PM   #9
 
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Here are some links about the moisturizing properties of coconut oil


Here is the deal with coconut oil

1. It does penetrate the hair but this does not stop it from coating the outside of the cuticle which it does. The amount of oil that can enter the hair is limited, so naturally most of the oil will sit on the surface. J Cosmet Sci,52(3):169-84 (2001).

http://thenaturalhaven.blogspot.com/...ue-so-far.html

It was noted that for coconut oil, the moisture-retention effects dissipated significantly over time. This is credible evidence that coconut oil absorbs into the hair shaft while mineral oil remains on the exterior surface. (Remember this—it will be important later)

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Old 11-04-2010, 08:17 PM   #10
 
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Del posted the links I was going to post. If you do a blog search on the natural haven blog for coconut oil there is tons of information there if you want even more info..
In my own personal experience, I find my overnight coconut oil treatments to add a lot of moisture to my hair. Coconut oil also helps your hair retain protein. If you check my siggi you'll see my feelings are clear.
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I'm not saying that coconut oil doesn't help your hair or that it doesn't help your hair retain moisture...

I'm saying that coconut oil is not - in and of itself - moisture.

Oil and water don't mix, remember?
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:40 AM   #12
 
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I'm saying that coconut oil is not - in and of itself - moisture
No one has said that Coconut oil IS moisture what's being said is that Coconut Oil is "moisturizing"


Moisture = water content.

Moisturizer = chemical(s) designed to reduce evaporation (aka moisture loss), often combined with water in products.

The op was asking if she needed additional oil to seal because of the moisturizing properties of Coconut Oil. Sounds like coconut oil can kill 2 birds with one stone. If you had super dry hair and tried to condition with Coconut Oil it wouldn't work unless you combined it with a water based conditioner. But that's kind of going off the original question the Op had.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:57 PM   #13
 
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nevermind. Just reread del's post. She already has an explanation for my musings.
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nevermind. Just reread del's post. She already has an explanation for my musings.
What you're probably feeling is the emollient quality of the Coco Oil Your hair is already in good condition otherwise it may feel dry when adding coco oil to it.

ETA that's weird you must have edited your post while I was posting LOL. Well what I meant was when you use coco oil on dry hair you probably feel that your hair is more moisturized but it's the emollient properties of the oil.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:26 PM   #15
 
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Default coconut oil used to SOTC

I used coconut oil to SOTC after doing a banana, OVOO, and honey DT. The oil left my curls soft but frizzy. After taking my hair out of a pineapple the next morning, I noticed more frizz towards the crown area. I was able to get 2nd and 3rd day hair, but my curls weren't as defined. Any ideas why this happened?
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I love, love, love coconut oil. I haven't used it to seal, but I use it regularly as a DT. However, one problem I've noticed with it is that I can't use it on wet hair. I might be completely wrong about this, but this is why I think may be the reason. Coconut oil solidifies in lower temperatures. My wet hair tends to be cold so when I put the oil in it, it makes it hard (coated hard not too much protein hard) and stringy. I find that olive oil for me is better for sealing. And (again, I might be wrong here), but I think olive oil also can penetrate the hair shaft so has moisturizing properties.

But if coconut oil works for you in wet hair, then I agree with whimaway, if it kills two birds with one stone, why change it?
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Old 12-14-2010, 03:37 PM   #17
 
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You could heat it up in the microwave for a few seconds. Maybe that would help? Olive oil is good too.

I just got some coconut oil. I can't wait to try it! My mom used to massage it in my hair when I was a toddler to help me go to sleep.
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Don't know if this helps at all, but the other night, I busted out my coconut oil and put it on my dry hair before bed. When I woke up, I could no longer feel it on the outer layer of my hair because it had all soaked in.

So we do know then that it does penetrate the hair shaft. For sure.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:49 PM   #19
 
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Hi Rochelle !!

Ive been using coconut oil almost exclusively as my leave in for my braidouts for the past month or so and I LOVE IT..
esp in this weather, alot of my leave ins have glycerin so this is good for me because its consistent. Yes we know that its an oil, and you need water to moisturize.. but im with the idea that it behaves both like a sealant or "moisturizer". Its the only oil I can put on dry hair and it wont just sit on my hair making it greasy, it sinks in like a "moisturizer" would.
BUT I usually start off with wet hair (maybe spritz a little aloe juice+water OR leave in a little yes to cucumbers) and apply alot and braid. My hair is never greasy.. as the week goes on ill apply more to dry hair or I may spritz and rebraid. But so far so good.
My hair is pretty healthy now so I can do this, like DEL said if your hair needs conditioning I would use this in conjunction with a leave in. Youve just got to get a feel of it. I like it more as a "leave in/moisturizer" than a sealant, other oils def work better to seal. But I wouldnt use coconut oil AND another oil to seal.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:27 PM   #20
 
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I am going to start using it as a sealant. It looks promising thus far. Not greasy or oily at all!
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