Low porosity hair care??

I always thought I had high poriosity hair but im starting to think it might not be the case...how can I tell and what is differant about low poriosity hair care?
Mixture of 2c/3a curls, fine to med texture

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Wishing my hair would be more like this ------>
and less like this --------->
I always thought I had high poriosity hair but im starting to think it might not be the case...how can I tell and what is differant about low poriosity hair care?
Originally Posted by 09robiha
Here is a post someone made in a thread I started about porosity. I found it extremely helpful. Hope it helps you out!

Here's how you do the porosity test:

Grasp a single strand of clean, product free hair. Clasp your thumb and forefinger around the hair. Run your thumb and forefinger up the hair strand toward your scalp. Take note of how the hair feels as you slide your fingers toward you scalp. Do this with several strands of your hair all over..front, side, back, top. Just to be sure of your results.

How to Determine The Porosity Results:

High Porosity (Overly Porous hair):
  • Hair strand felt like it had any ruffling, divets, or bumps, it wasn't very smooth when sliding the fingers upward.
  • Hair gets wet pretty easily but often feels dry over time during the day if the hair hasn't been properly moisturized with emollients.
A fairly easy way to tell if you have porous hair is just by recalling if your hair is chemically treated. For instance, If you dyed or have had your hair dyed with any sort of dye that contains ammonia and or hydrogen peroxide...you hair has some porosity. This means dyes that aren't rinses such as a permanent or semi permanent dye have poked holes in the hair shaft making it porous. If you have a relaxer or texturizer that also makes the hair porous.

If you don't have these chemical services done to your hair it doesn't mean automatically your hair isn't porous. Your hair could be porous based on your hair care methods and products you've used over time. So it's important to pay attention to how the hair feels during the test and responds to moisture (ie water)

Low Porosity Hair
  • Fingers slid up the hair strand really quickly and it felt sort of slick.
  • Hair seems like it takes it a bit to feel wet when running water over hair.
  • Hair often feels incredibly dry if not properly moisturized.
  • Certain oils, butters, and or products that contain many silicones seem to make the hair greasy yet dry feeling over time.
  • Hair has not been chemically altered.
Normal (Medium) Porosity Hair
  • Hair felt smooth but not very slick when fingers went up the hair strand.
  • Hair gets wet in a relatively normal amount of time and seems to retain moisture pretty well for the most part but doesn't absorb to much water making the hair feel mushy or "too soft" for styling.
  • Hair shaft hasn't been damaged from chemical processes.
Ways to possibly treat each porosity type:

High Porosity Hair: needs a balance of moisture and protein. The protein helps to fill the holes in the hair shaft due to chemical processing or other things that have damaged the cuticle. Since the hair is mostly made of protein, giving this type of hair some protein helps to strengthen it. This hair also needs help with moisture retention that can be achieved by using emollients on moisturized (wet) hair. Emollients would be natural oils that can help to seal the cuticle to retain moisture.

It's important to take note of how the hair responds to the protein. Some high porosity types don't need tons of protein..they may just need a little occassionally because their hair isn't terribly damaged. For instance, I have porous hair but it's not terribly damaged so I don't need tons of protein. I use one mild protein conditioner maybe once a week as a leave in or deep treatment.

Examples of protein ingredients would be things like: aloe (also a humectant and emollient), avocado, egg, wheat protein. Examples of moisture retaining emollients would be shea butter, cocoa butter, jojoba oil, vitamins A, E, C, castor oil, olive oil, coconut oil, etc

A special note about coconut oil: Coconut oil helps to retain protein though it's not actually a protein per se itself. It helps to keep protein binded to the hair. So if to much is used on dry hair the hair can feel extremely dry and greasy rather than moisturized. Coconut oil is best used on wet hair that isn't protein sensitive which doesn't mean it can't be used on dry hair..it just means it's best used on wet hair because it does act as a sealant and to much protein retention can make the hair feel dry and brittle if a moisture balance isn't achieved.

Low Porosity Hair: Hair needs to "open up" to be able to receive moisture. Meaning that you want to raise the cuticle to allow moisture in. One of the ways that this can be achieved is with very warm (not hot) water or warm steam. Avoid heavy products that just coat and build up on the hair like mineral oil, petroleum, silicones. Try not to over use products with protein unless you really need it (ie if you have fine hair that needs an extra boost). Use products that contain humectants (things that draw moisture from the air to the hair). Do occasional deep treatments with heat. Such sitting under a hooded dryer or wrapping a wet warm towel around the hair for a while.

Examples of product ingredients that may help with low porosity hair: humectants such as glycerin, pathenol, hydrogenated honey, glucose, fructose, etc.

Normal Porosity Hair: This type of hair really has a decent balance and what most people would prefer to have since it absorbs moisture readily but resists to much water absorption. Basically, how this hair responds is predictable. This type of hair can use a variety of products ingredients depending on what the individual wants the hair to look and feel like. It's important to remember just because this hair normally has a good balance to it that doesn't mean it shouldn't be properly taken care or chemically treated (which will make this hair type porous) frivoulsly. Using emollients on this hair type can be very beneficial to keep the hair soft, bouncy, and supple.
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
My hair is Very Low Porosity and some of them are still bumpy feeling, I don't think that's actually a good test, hair can be bumpy as part of its curl pattern.

Best way to tell IMO, since you color, is how does your hair handle color? Does it require high volume peroxide and extra processing time, or does it take color easily?

Also, my hair takes awhile to get wet - in a mist water will bead up on my hair rather than soaking in, until it reaches some sort of critical wetness and starts to become wet.

And it takes a long time to dry, though I don't know for sure whether that's a good test.

So years before I heard the term "porosity" I did know my hair was "resistant"; it would not give up its color easily when I bleached it - what took 15 minutes to achieve on some people took 6-8 hours to happen on my hair, so there was an obvious difference.

In terms of care, outside of color I think everything is easier with lower porosity hair. It's healthier because the cuticle is heavy and tight, it doesn't dry out as easily or need as much protein. I use hot water on it in the shower and lots of conditioner.

For styling, I do notice that putting gel in Very Wet Hair is important, which I assume is because once it starts to dry it sort of repels the gel.
2c / C / iii (FIA)
Med-Coarse, LowPorosity, NormalElast (LCLF)

Shoulder-Length now.

Wash: DevaCare Low Poo
Detangle & Rinseout: Walgreens or Sally's Conditioning Balm (always)
Leave-in: DevaCare OneC (budget choice is GFTN)
Style: ReCoil & DevaCare Arc Angel (budget choices are HESMU or Got2BSpikedUp)

Henna!
My hair is Very Low Porosity and some of them are still bumpy feeling, I don't think that's actually a good test, hair can be bumpy as part of its curl pattern.

Best way to tell IMO, since you color, is how does your hair handle color? Does it require high volume peroxide and extra processing time, or does it take color easily?

Also, my hair takes awhile to get wet - in a mist water will bead up on my hair rather than soaking in, until it reaches some sort of critical wetness and starts to become wet.

And it takes a long time to dry, though I don't know for sure whether that's a good test.

So years before I heard the term "porosity" I did know my hair was "resistant"; it would not give up its color easily when I bleached it - what took 15 minutes to achieve on some people took 6-8 hours to happen on my hair, so there was an obvious difference.

In terms of care, outside of color I think everything is easier with lower porosity hair. It's healthier because the cuticle is heavy and tight, it doesn't dry out as easily or need as much protein. I use hot water on it in the shower and lots of conditioner.

For styling, I do notice that putting gel in Very Wet Hair is important, which I assume is because once it starts to dry it sort of repels the gel.
Originally Posted by Robin-in-FL
ME TOO! ME TOO! I'm low porosity, but I have the bumps, too. Because of that description above, I thought I had porous hair. I don't. I had it analyzed by Live Curly Live Free and was told I was low in porosity and low in elasticity.

My hair also takes a really long time to get wet. I need a high pressure shower to get the water through it. And, because I have so much hair, it takes a lot of conditioner/no-poo/low-poo in order to get it distributed completely.

I don't really know if my hair takes longer to take color or not. I've always left color on longer. IDK why... I just did. Insurance that I wasn't wasting my time?? LOL!

AND, my hair takes HOURS to dry, as well. If I don't diffuse my hair, it can take nearly the ENTIRE day for it to dry. And it desn't LOOK like it should take that long. But, it does. The roots, especially at my nape and back of my head just take forever to dry.

So, Robin-In-FL, you and I are hair twins whether we have the same look to our hair or not! LOL!
Janet ~ Northern NJ
Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
My Picasa Album
What I used in this photo:
Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
Styling: CJCQ
Here is a post someone made in a thread I started about porosity. I found it extremely helpful.
Originally Posted by wavynwild16
Thanks for the info!! Porosity is a confusing thing but this was made very clear and was helpful! Do you have a link for the porosity thread you started?
Low/Med porosity, very fine, low/med elasticity & density, 3A
AKA hard to work with hair!


Low-Poo: Kenra Volumizing shampoo, AG Fast Food shampoo
CO: AG Ultramoist, AO GPB, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera
Gel: GFCC mousse, HETT, Aquage Megagel
Also: Aloe Vera juice or Alba Leave-in. Weekly ACV rinse.
Wishlist: YTC low-poo, Elucence poo, Bioterra Curl Creme, AGEbeautiful Strengthening trtment, SS Repairing Protein Trtment, LuxyHair ext's
My hair is Very Low Porosity and some of them are still bumpy feeling, I don't think that's actually a good test, hair can be bumpy as part of its curl pattern.

Best way to tell IMO, since you color, is how does your hair handle color? Does it require high volume peroxide and extra processing time, or does it take color easily?

Also, my hair takes awhile to get wet - in a mist water will bead up on my hair rather than soaking in, until it reaches some sort of critical wetness and starts to become wet.

And it takes a long time to dry, though I don't know for sure whether that's a good test.

So years before I heard the term "porosity" I did know my hair was "resistant"; it would not give up its color easily when I bleached it - what took 15 minutes to achieve on some people took 6-8 hours to happen on my hair, so there was an obvious difference.

In terms of care, outside of color I think everything is easier with lower porosity hair. It's healthier because the cuticle is heavy and tight, it doesn't dry out as easily or need as much protein. I use hot water on it in the shower and lots of conditioner.

For styling, I do notice that putting gel in Very Wet Hair is important, which I assume is because once it starts to dry it sort of repels the gel.
Originally Posted by Robin-in-FL
ME TOO! ME TOO! I'm low porosity, but I have the bumps, too. Because of that description above, I thought I had porous hair. I don't. I had it analyzed by Live Curly Live Free and was told I was low in porosity and low in elasticity.

My hair also takes a really long time to get wet. I need a high pressure shower to get the water through it. And, because I have so much hair, it takes a lot of conditioner/no-poo/low-poo in order to get it distributed completely.

I don't really know if my hair takes longer to take color or not. I've always left color on longer. IDK why... I just did. Insurance that I wasn't wasting my time?? LOL!

AND, my hair takes HOURS to dry, as well. If I don't diffuse my hair, it can take nearly the ENTIRE day for it to dry. And it desn't LOOK like it should take that long. But, it does. The roots, especially at my nape and back of my head just take forever to dry.

So, Robin-In-FL, you and I are hair twins whether we have the same look to our hair or not! LOL!
Originally Posted by RacerWife7

This is why I think my hair is not as porous as I think it is. It can take an entire day to dry and when I dont use my dads high pressure shower its hard to get it all wet properly and can take ALOT on conditioner to get it all over.

In regards to dyeing..I have never bleached apart from some highlights which are long long gone by now because I either used unatural colours like manic panic or went darker over blonde hair. I usually use a semi permant box colour that says no ammonia on the side and hace always just left it on longer because it would wash out so quickly if I didnt. Maybe that is why it washed out so quickly because I didnt leave it long enough to penetrate through the cuticle??

With products do you have to leave them to soak in more or not??
Mixture of 2c/3a curls, fine to med texture

PROTEIN LOVER!!!

Wishing my hair would be more like this ------>
and less like this --------->
Here is a post someone made in a thread I started about porosity. I found it extremely helpful.
Originally Posted by wavynwild16
Thanks for the info!! Porosity is a confusing thing but this was made very clear and was helpful! Do you have a link for the porosity thread you started?
Originally Posted by CurlyCowgirly
Your welcome! It helped me a bunch, too. I can now say confidently that I have normal/high porosity! Here's the link:

Porosity question...I should know this, but I still need help!
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
My hair is Very Low Porosity and some of them are still bumpy feeling, I don't think that's actually a good test, hair can be bumpy as part of its curl pattern.

Best way to tell IMO, since you color, is how does your hair handle color? Does it require high volume peroxide and extra processing time, or does it take color easily?

Also, my hair takes awhile to get wet - in a mist water will bead up on my hair rather than soaking in, until it reaches some sort of critical wetness and starts to become wet.

And it takes a long time to dry, though I don't know for sure whether that's a good test.

So years before I heard the term "porosity" I did know my hair was "resistant"; it would not give up its color easily when I bleached it - what took 15 minutes to achieve on some people took 6-8 hours to happen on my hair, so there was an obvious difference.

In terms of care, outside of color I think everything is easier with lower porosity hair. It's healthier because the cuticle is heavy and tight, it doesn't dry out as easily or need as much protein. I use hot water on it in the shower and lots of conditioner.

For styling, I do notice that putting gel in Very Wet Hair is important, which I assume is because once it starts to dry it sort of repels the gel.
Originally Posted by Robin-in-FL
ME TOO! ME TOO! I'm low porosity, but I have the bumps, too. Because of that description above, I thought I had porous hair. I don't. I had it analyzed by Live Curly Live Free and was told I was low in porosity and low in elasticity.

My hair also takes a really long time to get wet. I need a high pressure shower to get the water through it. And, because I have so much hair, it takes a lot of conditioner/no-poo/low-poo in order to get it distributed completely.

I don't really know if my hair takes longer to take color or not. I've always left color on longer. IDK why... I just did. Insurance that I wasn't wasting my time?? LOL!

AND, my hair takes HOURS to dry, as well. If I don't diffuse my hair, it can take nearly the ENTIRE day for it to dry. And it desn't LOOK like it should take that long. But, it does. The roots, especially at my nape and back of my head just take forever to dry.

So, Robin-In-FL, you and I are hair twins whether we have the same look to our hair or not! LOL!
Originally Posted by RacerWife7

This is why I think my hair is not as porous as I think it is. It can take an entire day to dry and when I dont use my dads high pressure shower its hard to get it all wet properly and can take ALOT on conditioner to get it all over.

In regards to dyeing..I have never bleached apart from some highlights which are long long gone by now because I either used unatural colours like manic panic or went darker over blonde hair. I usually use a semi permant box colour that says no ammonia on the side and hace always just left it on longer because it would wash out so quickly if I didnt. Maybe that is why it washed out so quickly because I didnt leave it long enough to penetrate through the cuticle??

With products do you have to leave them to soak in more or not??
Originally Posted by 09robiha
Definitely! I leave my conditioner on from the beginning of my shower (after I cleanse or cowash) until LAST. If I rinse too soon, I don't get the benefits of the conditioner and I feel like it was wasted. I've been doing this for years. So, it's just what I'm used to doing. But, I never knew until recently that I had low porosity and that's probably part of the reason, if not all of the reason, I have to leave the condish on so long.
Janet ~ Northern NJ
Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
My Picasa Album
What I used in this photo:
Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
Styling: CJCQ
Yes, like racerwife, I wash the hair first then rinse with hot water and apply lots of conditioner, squeeze then comb it through, add more if it seems to need it, and leave that on for the rest of the shower (usually just a few minutes of course but as long as possible) while I wash me and maybe shave legs or whatever, and rinse out conditioner at the very end of the shower.
2c / C / iii (FIA)
Med-Coarse, LowPorosity, NormalElast (LCLF)

Shoulder-Length now.

Wash: DevaCare Low Poo
Detangle & Rinseout: Walgreens or Sally's Conditioning Balm (always)
Leave-in: DevaCare OneC (budget choice is GFTN)
Style: ReCoil & DevaCare Arc Angel (budget choices are HESMU or Got2BSpikedUp)

Henna!
Thanks everyone you have been very helpful and shall keep all this advice in mind in my new hair experiments
Mixture of 2c/3a curls, fine to med texture

PROTEIN LOVER!!!

Wishing my hair would be more like this ------>
and less like this --------->
If your hair will take the Manic Panic without bleaching it up first, it would have to be high porosity, though, I think.

I have a daughter who had nearly white hair as a youngster and she wanted hers pink, I said OK and got the Manic Panic, put it on and it all just rinsed off, no hair color change at all.

Because her hair, though very light colored, was not porous like bleached hair so the color didn't soak in.

Not trying to confuse you!

Does the Manic Panic actually work on your hair or was that only on the bleached parts? Or are you just mixing it into your other permanent color to pop the color?
2c / C / iii (FIA)
Med-Coarse, LowPorosity, NormalElast (LCLF)

Shoulder-Length now.

Wash: DevaCare Low Poo
Detangle & Rinseout: Walgreens or Sally's Conditioning Balm (always)
Leave-in: DevaCare OneC (budget choice is GFTN)
Style: ReCoil & DevaCare Arc Angel (budget choices are HESMU or Got2BSpikedUp)

Henna!
Robin - the manic panic will only stick to the bits that have been previously coloured. The stuff, no matter what, wont stick to my roots!!
Mixture of 2c/3a curls, fine to med texture

PROTEIN LOVER!!!

Wishing my hair would be more like this ------>
and less like this --------->

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