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medusahair 12-17-2006 11:05 AM

Coconut Oil
 
Does coconut oil really loose curls? I have some of that in a really nice leave in and I could swear it's pulling some curl out. My hair is all spirally for part of the day and it slowly gets straighter. I used less today and a stiffer gel so it's a bit better but I can't tell if I just don't need a leave in every day or if it's that coconut oil.
On the bright side my hair is clumped well and super shiny and spirally for most of the day.

TIA!

medusahair 12-17-2006 11:53 AM

No one? Maybe I'm imagining it. I do know LB had the same reaction from the leave in.
I'm going to use B&A with it tomorrow to see how it does. It's such a nice conditioner I'm hoping I can work it out. It's the only thing with more than one or two oils listed that my hair actually doesn't look greasy with and boy it helps clumping.

RedheadCurly2007 12-17-2006 02:15 PM

Medusa- Even before I went on the curly girl routine I would occasionally use coconut oil I purchased from the Indian store to deep condition. It sometimes would pull the curl out as well. I found that I could only leave it on for a few hours, not all night. It is kind of a balancing act. I was not ever able to put it in after washing because it would weigh my hair down. It did seem that my hair was porous and would take the oil freely. I have heard there are different types of coconut oil, like pressed and such. The way they are processed changes the way they affect your hair. I did find if I left some coconut oil on for a short time, warmed on wet hair it added shine and curl. I had to rinse it all out. I know many Indian ladies and men use coconut oil on their hair but you must rinse it out. Good luck.

Kaia 12-17-2006 02:28 PM

Medusahair - I thought it was coconut MILK that loosened curl. I know some people use it as a DT to loosen tight curls. I haven't heard of coconut oil loosening curl, but it might be that pure oil as a leave-in is weighing your curl down and stretching it out.

medusahair 12-17-2006 02:50 PM

Redhead Thanks for the info, I appreciate it since I've never used coconut oil so I had no clue

Bailey You might be right there. The conditioner has a cetyl alcohol that is taken from coconut so I might be just imaginging things. I do believe it was milk and redcelticcurls uses it in her conditioner and I know she doesn't want her curls looser (the oil I mean)

I think OneC might be too much since we're in the 70's again

Which meaaaaaaaans I can enjoy my BWC without fear! Woohoo! Ok except for maybe too much oil for me but at least I know it's nothing specifically to loose curl whew! Now to find that delicate balance of just enough or what time of year this works best for me.

If anyone else has any coconut oil experience or bwc conditioner please feel free to speak up :D

LizzyBennet 12-17-2006 03:15 PM

Medusahair,

I think coconut oil is quite heavy, no? Perhaps it is the weight that is pulling out the curl. I wonder if something like jojoba would give a better result?

LB

curlyjenn 12-17-2006 03:29 PM

I use a little coconut oil as a leave-in when I want to loosen my curls. I don't get much volume and the curls are longer.

lushaholic 12-17-2006 03:33 PM

LB has a good point, I'd probably stick to a lighter one like jojoba, or even avocado oil would be a good medium.

curlsofny 12-17-2006 03:39 PM

Can I use coconut oil under products to get a looser curl? I want a looser curl. Where can I buy this, Trader Joe's?

redcelticcurls 12-17-2006 09:25 PM

I use it a lot and have gotten a small amount of loosening but not much - which is fine as I don't want it. :lol:

I get more loosening if I use it as a leave in. As an adjunct to my conditioner I don't.

As an all night leave in I don't. I guess the next day rinse out helps. But, my hair hardly ever gets weighed down. Finer hair curlies might have a different experience.

I kept seeing jojoba oil at work, so I got some of it to play with. It does seem to leave the curls tighter than the coconout oil. I get better smoothness on the rough spots with coconut though.

redcelticcurls 12-17-2006 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by curlsofny
Can I use coconut oil under products to get a looser curl? I want a looser curl. Where can I buy this, Trader Joe's?

I get mine at Whole Foods, and it's organic expeller pressed. I work at a Trader Joe's, and we don't carry it - we just have the milk. Your store may though since there can be a wide variety between two Trader Joe's stores.

HalfWavyHalfCurly 12-18-2006 03:55 AM

curlsofny:

As Redheadcurly2007 mentioned above, you can also get it at Indian grocery stores (and there must be quite a few of them in NY). We have one here and I bought one especially for hair called "Medimix" with herbs that help hair growth, there's also "Dabur Vatika" of which I read many good reviews not long ago. Even a regular one (that's not refined) like "Parachute" is fine.

Also, most malls have a "Vitamin World" store and they carry Extra Virgin c.o. in a 1lb. tub.

curlsofny 12-18-2006 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HalfWavyHalfCurly
curlsofny:

As Redheadcurly2007 mentioned above, you can also get it at Indian grocery stores (and there must be quite a few of them in NY). We have one here and I bought one especially for hair called "Medimix" with herbs that help hair growth, there's also "Dabur Vatika" of which I read many good reviews not long ago. Even a regular one (that's not refined) like "Parachute" is fine.

Also, most malls have a "Vitamin World" store and they carry Extra Virgin c.o. in a 1lb. tub.


halfwavy & redceltic: thanks!! We do have a vitamin shoppe that might have it.

HalfWavyHalfCurly 12-18-2006 07:51 AM

If you get EVCO you can use it in your food (if you care for the taste), it's very healthy, especially for people with thyroid problems (or to keep it healthy). I also add a "trickle" to any inexpensive body lotion (preferably free of mineral oil...) to enrich them, this time of year the skin of my body starts to get pretty dry. I used to melt a piece of a cocoa butter stick instead but I think I like c.o. better.

2happy 12-19-2006 12:21 PM

Isn't coconut oil hard until you melt it? I swear I bought some when I started CG........

am I thinking of something else?

x_tigerlily 12-19-2006 01:26 PM

It doesn't loosen my curls but it helps my curls from getting too frizzy. I often use it as an anti-frizz product.

redcelticcurls 12-19-2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2happy
Isn't coconut oil hard until you melt it? I swear I bought some when I started CG........

am I thinking of something else?

It's solid at room temp. It warms up well in your hands though. I keep a small amount in one of those Tupperware containers that you keep a single serving of salad dressing in. I then put the container into a cup of warm water. It warms up the oil.


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