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Old 12-20-2006, 03:37 PM   #1
 
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Hello all!!

I'm a little confused about over conditioning & protein sensitivity-- what does it look/feel like? I know they're 2 different things-- just don't know the symptoms. I never paid attention b4. Just did my thing & bad hair ended up in a twisty on the back of my head. So much to pay attention to now... Learning as I go!!
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:02 PM   #2
 
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With both my hair looks frizzy and bad. When I'm overconditioned though, it is soft. When I use to much protein my hair feels dry, like straw and it's frizzy. I hate the way it feels then!!
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:52 PM   #3
 
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thanks kimmy!

I was like a scarecrow after I used CO Bigelow one day last week- it's got a bunch of different proteins in it. Back to B&Bworks it goes.

I always have some frizz. Right now I have no more frizz than normal but it is super soft & hardly curly- it's just kind of there--the weirdest thing. It's like someone else's hair on my head. If it is over conditioned, how do I fix that? ACV rinse? Just cut back on conditioner? I'm using Too Shea & rinsing for a few seconds.
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I just read the greatest article about this and now it all makes sense to me http://p069.ezboard.com/fblackbeauty...icID=652.topic
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I just read the greatest article about this and now it all makes sense to me http://p069.ezboard.com/fblackbeauty...icID=652.topic
Wow-- thanks! that was really helpful! It makes sense now!! Based on the stretch/break guideline, it appears that I need some protein. When I try to get little tangles out, the strands just stretch for ever & don't really go back to normal.
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With both my hair looks frizzy and bad. When I'm overconditioned though, it is soft. When I use to much protein my hair feels dry, like straw and it's frizzy. I hate the way it feels then!!
Yep, same with my hair.
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This is an interesting topic! I have been wondering too if I'm sensitive to protein. I read the article, and it seems to be focused on breakage. I don't have a breakage problem, so I think it might be hard to know if one has a protein sensitivity if there is no breakage problem.

My "canopy" has less curl than the hair under it. But it always looks like "straw" to me, very stiff and frizzy-looking. From what I've read so far here, this sounds like it might be a protein sensitivity. All of my products right now contain wheat protein. Thoughts?

I hope it's not breaking the rules to ask a question on another person's thread. But I have been wondering about this exact topic--How do you know if your hair doesn't like protein?
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I don't have a breakage problem either... the stretching is what put it in perspective for me though. I think breakage would be the extreme condition for either problem.

Feel free to ask away!! I'm still pretty clueless yet so I'm no help, but I'm sure someone will have an answer for you.
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Old 12-22-2006, 10:39 AM   #9
 
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That's a great article, thanks!

One way to get at the question of whether your hair is protein sensitive is to look at how the "bad effect" develops. A typical pattern for protein-sensitive hair would be that the first time or two you use the product, your hair looks great and you are very happy. Over the next few days your hair starts looking worse and worse. Suddenly it seems rough and dry, even though you have been using plenty of conditioner.

What can happen is that the excess protein that is not absorbed into the hair shaft sits on the outside and builds up, giving you that rough feeling. Your hair is not actually damaged by protein buildup, by the way.

Damaged hair usually benefits the most from protein. Healthy hair, or hair that tends to be dry but is not damaged, is most likely to be sensitive to excess protein.

I find that my hair (which is highlighted but not otherwise damaged) doesn't mind protein in conditioners, but is quite sensitive to high protein in styling products. I can use this type of product, but not daily.
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