Dew point and hair types

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  • 1 Post By Gretchen
  • 2 Post By Morgan_Adcock

So we're working on redoing our Frizz Forecast page and we need your help!

First question: Do you think recommendations based on dew point would vary based on hair type?

ie, the brilliant redcelticurls has written up this information for dew points:

Dew point below 15F (-9C)
very dry. Use as much moisture and emollients as you hair can handle without overconditioning. Many will have to expect a looser curl pattern at this point. For those who like to occasionally straighten their hair, this is a good time for it since you may have less curl to fight. Humectant use may need to be cut out entirely or severely limited.
Dew point 15-30F (-9 to -1C) Dry, add moisture and emollients. Limit or cut out humectants.
Between 30-40F (-1 to 4C)can be iffy. Some people can tolerate more humectants. Other cannot. Very trial and error in this range.
Between 40-60F (4 to 16C). Prime curly range. You should get some curl without that summer frizz. Find a balance between moisture and humectants that works for you.
Dew point 60F (16C) and up. You need to find a moisture/humectant tolerance that works for you. Some of you will be able to tolerate humectants. Those of you with more porous hair may start to see humectant induced frizz at this range, and especially so once the dew point hits 70. Those who get humectant induced frizz may want to look into anti-humectants to keep that muggy weather out of your hair.

I'm wondering if we need to customize this information for each hair type?

What are your thoughts?
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Gretchen
NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
3A

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I think it would help to customize it for each hair type. If possible, please include porosity as well as in your example for Dew point 60F (16C) and up.
Mod CG-Naturally Highly Porous and Dry
This list is not exhaustive...
Winter Regimen
Cowash: HE The Sleeker The Butter
Shampoo/Clarifier:various
PT:Not for a while...
DT:
Smooth Sexy Hair Sulfate-Free Smoothing Conditioner
LI/Detangler: It's a 10!, CURLS Cashmere Curls leave-in
Stylers: CHS Extenzz
Sealers: Tamanu oil, The Body Shop Wild Argan Solid Oil

*experimenting and loving it!


Is anyone willing to take on this project? Or at least the portion for a hair type with which you are familiar? We, of course, would compensate.
Gretchen
NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
3A

You are beautiful!
Personally, I'd just be thrilled to have dew points come up instead of relative humidity. There are some minor differences in approach which work for people with different hair characteristics. The wordier it is, the harder it's going to be for the uninitiated to see dew point as a useful tool. I'd rather see something like this:

Dew Point below 15F (-9C) very dry. Expect loosest curls. Give your hair as much moisture and emollience as it can tolerate. Avoid humectants. Use least amount of gel. Anti-humectants help hair retain moisture.
Dew point 15-30F (-9 to -1C) – dry. Add moisture and emollients. Limit or cut out humectants. Apply gel Anti-humectant will help limit moisture loss.
Dew Point 30-40F (-1 to 4C) - semi-dry. Limited humectants may be tolerated by some.
Dew Point 40-60F (4 to 16C) comfort range. Prime curls without frizz! Balance moisture and humectants. Apply gel
Dew Point 60-70F (16 to 21C) and up - humid. Hair needs less moisture, and porous hair may frizz. Eliminate or decrease humectants if hair becomes bloated or frizzy. Increase gel.
Dew Point 70F (21C) and Above - muggy. Eliminate or cut back on humectants and emollients. Use hard hold gel, and anti-humectants.
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Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Morgan, will you email me? gretchen@naturallycurly.com
Gretchen
NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
3A

You are beautiful!
Thanks, Morgan!

My vote would be for Morgan's recommendation. The wordier, the less useful.

If I were knowledgeable in the subject, I would definitely take on this project. For now, I'll just give my two cents.

Thanks to all for your valuable expertise,

TMS
Gretchen, did you find the help you need for this project?
If at first you don't succeed you must try, try, try again...

Current Products:


Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo & SM African Black Soap
LI Condish: Oyin HH
, SM DTM, SM Y&A Milk
DC: SM DTM, Honey & Oil Blend
Stylers: Oyin S&D, Oyin BSP, Oyin J&B, EcoStyler (Blue), SM C&S Milk

Oils: Tea Tree, Grapeseed, EVOO, Vatika Oil, Sweet Almond, Avocado Oil, SM RSB Elixir

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Thanks, Morgan!

My vote would be for Morgan's recommendation. The wordier, the less useful.

If I were knowledgeable in the subject, I would definitely take on this project. For now, I'll just give my two cents.

Thanks to all for your valuable expertise,

TMS
Originally Posted by TMS
+1 When might we see this? It will be very useful!
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Mix Curls in a Bottle into everything for shine. Terrible pj
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
Every day is a gift
Thanks, Morgan!

My vote would be for Morgan's recommendation. The wordier, the less useful.

If I were knowledgeable in the subject, I would definitely take on this project. For now, I'll just give my two cents.

Thanks to all for your valuable expertise,

TMS
Originally Posted by TMS
+1 When might we see this? It will be very useful!
Originally Posted by curlypearl
+2
3b/3a, medium porosity, slightly coarse, high elasticity, high density. CG 2004; mod CG since 2006. CG again since 4/1/11.

Lowpoo:
Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
Love flour sack towels.
Coconut oil = magic!
We hope to have it up mid-June.

Thanks for all your help, everyone.
Gretchen
NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
3A

You are beautiful!

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