First post here, really need some help, please :)

I am new to the world of curly hair. All my life I was a straight haired girl, then woman - with lots of natural body.

Something happened a couple years ago - I am not sure exactly what, but now I have curly, wire-y, kinky hair on the underlayers - and they are not pretty curly, they are really wire-y and bushy looking.

I am Caucasian, late 40s...

At first I thought I had somehow damaged my hair, so I delved into the world of proteins and deep conditioners and conditioner cleansing - and while I think these have all helped the overall condition of my hair - the bushy under layers remain - clearly this is a texture change.

I work in a professional position where having bushy pieces sticking out underneath, just doesn't go over very well...so in desperation, I bought something I saw recommended - a keratin treatment called Juvexin.

I have not used it yet because I am nervous about using something drastic or strong and don't want to damage my hair (too much) if I can avoid it.

I don't want my hair to go stick-straight - I just want to tame the frizzy wildness of it.

Would it be possible to do a "lighter" version of this type of keratin treatment by diluting the liquid a bit with plain conditioner or by leaving it on less than the recommended timeframe?

All ideas and suggestions are soooo greatly appreciated.

Thanks and nice meeting you all!

BFG
Oh, no, PLEASE don't do a keratin treatment!! That will damage your hair even more, and when it grows out, your hair will look way worse than before. The best option now is to embrace your curls with full force. Have you heard of the CG method? It involves cleansing your hair with conditioner (which I saw that you mentioned -- I wasn't exactly sure we were thinking of the same thing, though. ) There are also tons of different techniques on this site. Check out the techniques link at the top of the page. Some of them will help you decrease volume or bushiness, if that's what you like. You can also experiment with leave in condish and sealing with oils. I will provide links later, but I'm on my iPod!

HTH, for now!
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
Moisturize. Protein treatments are probably making that dry feeling worse. I agree with wavy, it cannot hurt to try out the CG method, or modified CG [Same concept, but less strict. This is what I do.]

This whole board is a resource for starting the curly girl method, so if you're overwhelmed, the lovely ladies [and a few men] will gladly help you.
I agree! Please check out the techniques thread, they have alot of helpful info about how to style your hair so you don't have to damage it! I too was frustrated with my hairs' newfound texture (I was also a striaght haired gal for all my life until I got very sick.. then I turned into a wavy!) It always looked frizzy and like I had I stuck my finger in a light socket.
After all the help from the lovely curlies here, I have found ways to make my (new) natural texture look it's best!
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So, if I'm understanding you correctly, only the under-layer (that at the nape area or thereabouts) has changed texture? The rest of your hair is still "straight with lots of body?"
Have the hairs become greater in diameter than those from, say, your crown?
What is the "bushy-ness" like? Do the hairs have kinks and bends, but no directional curl? OR is the hair just coarser, less bend-able/malleable/manageable?
More detail will help us give you more ideas.

Hair changes with age, hormones and such.
White hairs (not that yours is white), are often "bushy" and sometimes this can be controlled with coconut oil (as a pre-wash and a tiny bit as a leave-in). Creamy leave-in conditioners (just on that part of your hair) can smooth things down dramatically - I do this for my spouse's wiry bits.

If those parts of your hair are "sticking out" and they do that very predictably, then when you get your hair cut, you might talk to the stylist while your hair is dry and show her/him what you mean and work out how to do the cut so that this section is blended in to the cut rather than doing a cut meant for homogenous hair and having it pop back out.

If you go for a keratin treatment, you're chained to keratin treatments, spending $$$ and time you could spend doing other things.
You've already started down the road of getting your hair healthy, this challenge can be taken with the same attitude. Treat it with care, don't vanquish it with keratin.
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I appreciate all the feedback and comments. Yes, the only bushy parts are near the nape - the rest of my layers (the top layers) are still the same hair I have always had - straight, but with nice body.

I have been doing deep conditioning with coconut oil and leaving some in as well - I did give up the protein treatments a few months ago (it did not seem to help at all)...

this is very frustrating.... I will read the links at the top - I just want my hair to look the same all over my head and not to appear wild and woolly peaking through.

Thanks again
oh - forgot to add details regarding the new texture of the underlayers - they are wire-y, no curls, just "bendy" not straight - and coarse and they do not lie smoothly next to each other - the hairs all stick out in different directions - hard to explain.

Thanks agin
Here are some of the really helpful links I wanted to give you before!

This is the techniques link. All these different methods are great for different issues -- too much volume, not enough clumping, etc. Here you go:

TECHNIQUES LINKS: SuperSoaker,Spritz&Condish,Plopping,Frizz,Clipping IceQueen, etc

This link explains the whole CG method and why 'cones and sulfates are bad. It sounds like your hair has major curl potential, but your hair is dried out somehow. It could be too much protein, it could be that you're drying out your hair with too many harsh detergens or non-moisturizing products. It's a great guide for even experienced CG's!

The College Curly: Laura Lee's All In One Guide to Going CG: Now Revised and Updated!

This thread has some awesome basics and recipes.

TON of useful information for new curlies!! =)

Spritz and condish link -- it's great for adding moisture to dry hair.

Spritz and Condish Washing for Porous Types+Thirsty Curls Everywhere!

I hope some of those links help. You might also want to check out sealing. It sounds like you need some heavy-duty moisture, and some pre-wash treatments might help!
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
Just a styling suggestion:
You could a good LI, (creamy like IAgirl said.. GVP conditioning balm from Sally's is very thick and creamy) then rake some hard hold gel through the hair that's bothering you. Don't scrunch, just rake. When the gel is dry you can scrunch out the crunch not by srunching the hair UP like most of us do, but by scrunching it together from the sides. I think this would help smooth out the "bushy" parts and make your textures look more even.
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I looked into the Juvexin. Are they ever cagey about their ingredients. It is 0.2% formaldehyde as the active ingredient. Toxic, yes, although it's also in paint and carpet and glue... Straightens the hair, kind of. Keratin is just added to leave your hair less frazzled. It's like the "Brazilian" hair treatments. You'd need to use such a treatment with lots of ventilation and test it on your skin for 24-48 hours to make sure you don't have an allergic reaction.

If you chemically straighten wiry hair, you'll get straighter, but still coarser hair.
You'll have to treat your different textures differently and make sure your style accommodates the different textures. This is really common among curlies and wavies to have different hair textures and if your current stylist doesn't know how to work with it, you may have to look for another.

It's important to accept this change and work with it - whether you chemically alter it, leave it natural, or whatever you choose. Most of us are trying to learn to love our hair as it is and make the best of it, so we encourage you to do the same because we learn that the things we didn't like become our strengths. Lots of us find that when we finally accept and learn to like something we didn't like about ourselves, other things fall into place. It's not about the hair in that case - it's the attitude that changes. That comes first.
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