HELP!! With Devacurl

Ok so I have just purchased Devacurl OneCondition and have been using it for a week. However I see no difference in my hair whatsoever since using it. In fact, my hair has become less curly than it was before I began using Devacurl a week ago. Please help me with this. Does my hair not like this conditioner? Do I need to use it for a longer time before I see good results? Do I need to use more of their products with it? EX: Arc Angell, No-Poo, Set It Free, etc?
Are you CG? What other products do you use?
Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Repair Me, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC, UFD Curly Magic
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG

I have gone back to devacurl for my second time, which i regret again. Seems devacurl is good for a day or two but anything more then that will build up and dry out my hair, plus a nice itchy scalp.

Not sure why this is the case because my hairdresser swears by it. I think it works for some ppl, but ppl like me, it doesnt. My advice is to not waste anymore of your money if your not getting results by now.

I decided to buy samples from curl junkie, jessicurl and spiral solutions and i am finding that right now, curl junkie seems to be the best fit for my hair needs and properties.

Another thing with Devacurl is that you have to use a TON of their products to get the effect you want but it feels like theirs something in your hair, which i hate. I prefer to use less product and curl junkie, so far, is the best for needing a little bit of product and still get great results.

I may use my devacurl once in a while to use up what i have but after that i wont be buying anymore of it.

good luck
Thick 3C, some 4a, normal porosity, medium-fine texture and medium elasticity.

cleansers- CJ Daily Fix, Deva No Poo
conditioners-Curl Rehab, Natures Gate Asian Pear and Red Currant.
stylers-Bioterra gel
leave-ins-Natures Gate Lavender and Aloe condish

Last edited by nibrahim; 05-14-2011 at 11:35 AM.
I usually do not use anything else for my hair. Pre-CG I was simply just using Pantene Natural Effects Conditioner (which has some cones), combing it through with a wide-toothed comb, and parting my hair then, leaving it in my hair until the end when I would rinse it out. My hair would be soft and defined with many spirals once air dried, however not as defined as it could have been. I have never really had to apply much anything else to my hair. However, I decided to go CG and not use silicones, so I forked out the money to get Devacurl OneConditioner seeing as to how everyone had great results. Once I recieved it I tried it and have been trying it for a week. I have read that it takes a good few weeks for your hair to get used to it and that your hair may look worse at first. However I am reluctant as to whether, when they mean worse,they mean that my hair will not be as curly. While using devacurl for the week that I have been using it, my hair is definatly not as curly as it was when I was using Pantene. I do hear though that people use the Arc Angell to define their curls after washing. Do I need to do this? I am still deciding if I should give it a little longer and see if things get any better. If they don't, I will try the Arc Angell in hopes it will give me better results. If this still doesn't help, I will go with my Wen I wanted to try in the first place. Has anyone used this and what has beent heir results? Is it worth the money? If that still doesn't help, then I'm thinking I'll just stick with regular store-brand conditioners that I have been using seeings to how I get better results using these. Kinda weird that my hair curly hair likes these conditioners. Still thinking I have to be doing something wrong with this devacurl though, after reading everybody's great reviews on it and how it made their hair curlier?!?!? It is making mine less curly!! Is that the worse stage before it gets better? Ahhh, I am soooo confused!
Some people start with Deva products but I think the majority of people on this forum do not use them. I can only think of a few people who use those products and actually love them!

First, did you do final wash with a sulfate shampoo with no silicones? That is the first step. Did you use shampoo prior to going CG? Yes, sometimes there is a transition period since your hair and scalp have to get used to no silicones or sulfates.

Going CG does not have to be expensive. Do you use the OneC as a cowash, rinse out or both? You could get a cheap CG cowash (many use Suave Naturals or V05 conditioners) and then get a slightly more expensive and more moisturizer as their rinse out conditioner. You can pick up cheap, CG gels like Herbal Essences, Ecostyler and Garnier Fructis at almost any drugstore.

Again, you don't need Deva products to be successful. It's entirely possible to be CG and only use drugstore products. If you're more interested in "boutique" products, I'd suggest you check on Spiral Solutions or Curl Junkie. Many wavies an curlies love them much more than Deva and much better customer service!
Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Repair Me, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC, UFD Curly Magic
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG

I did not do a final wash with a sulfate shampoo with no silicones. Can you name a few for me? Before going CG, I was just using conditioner in the shower, but it had silicones in it. Maybe my hair just needs to adjust to completely no silicones? In the shower, the OneC is the only thing I use. I get in the shower, wet my hair, apply the OneC, comb through with a wide-toothed comb and rinse it out at the end. That is it. Do I need a seperate co-wash and rinse out and if so can you explain the difference between the two and some products. I am still kind of confused with the whole CG process. Thanks for your help!
As asianrunner said, many of us start with Deva products, but few of us continue to use them. It's a love/hate relationship. My hair doesn't think they are very good. My salon carries them and I won't let them use them. I bring my own. When they changed the NoPoo ingredients about 18 months ago, it really started to dry my hair out.

I rotate products, as many of us do. My hair has always satiated on products--even back in my shampoo/conditioner only days.

If you want to enhance your curls, you'll really need to do more then just conditioner. Many folks layer in styling products. What to use depends on the dewpoints (moisture in the air.) I wet, rinse out and style everyday using two or three layers: leave in AND/OR curl enhancer and a jelly product.

It's really important to know your hair properties. Here's a thread to help: Texture, Porosity, and other Hair Type Madness After you know your properties, you can look for people with hair like yours and see what they use (in signatures) and do.

You also need to read and learn if you want to be successful. A good place to start is the stickies at the top of the forums. If you had read about going shampooless, you would have know about the last sulfate (non silicone) wash, etc. There's also a thread with the acronyms that we all use, etc.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
Here is a link that explains the CG method:

The College Curly

Here is a link that explains texture, porosity and elasticity:

Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics

It is important to know your hair properties so you can begin to figure out what your hair generally needs. Example: if you have fine hair your hair will generally like protein products. If you have coarse textured hair, you should generally stay away from protein products.

I know there are lots of sulfate shampoos w/o silicones and I think one is Johnson's baby shampoo. I personally use Herbal Essences Degunkify that is a sulfate shampoo w/o silicones when I need a clarifying shampoo.

A cowash is simply massaging conditioner into your scalp like you would shampoo. It is a sulfate and silicone free conditioner. A rinse out conditioner is a sulfate and silicone free conditioner that you apply to your length of your hair like one normally does.

It is not necessary to buy different products for your cowash and rinse out, but many do. Since you tend to need a lot of cowash to really get your scalp clean, many get a cheapie conditioner for it.
Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Repair Me, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC, UFD Curly Magic
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG


You also need to read and learn if you want to be successful. A good place to start is the stickies at the top of the forums. If you had read about going shampooless, you would have know about the last sulfate (non silicone) wash, etc. There's also a thread with the acronyms that we all use, etc.
Originally Posted by kathymack
A cowash is simply massaging conditioner into your scalp like you would shampoo. It is a sulfate and silicone free conditioner. A rinse out conditioner is a sulfate and silicone free conditioner that you apply to your length of your hair like one normally does.

It is not necessary to buy different products for your cowash and rinse out, but many do. Since you tend to need a lot of cowash to really get your scalp clean, many get a cheapie conditioner for it.
Originally Posted by asianrunner
^^^^ That, but I would add, you need a bit more friction to get clean with a co-wash than a regular sulfate poo. Actually, I found for me, A LOT more friction.
Definitely do your research! Read and learn about the no/low poo method. It definitely helps to have a good understanding of what it means and involves.
I would suggest, like Kathymack said, clarifying with a sulfate poo, then using the OneC (since you already have it and all..)as a co-wash and then RO and see how that works. IE. for a quick summary of what that means: Apply the oneC to your fingertips, scrub your scalp and you will likely need to scrub more while rinsing to really get clean. Then apply more OneC to the length of your hair. Wait a few minutes and detangle. Massey suggests barely rinsing this out and using as you LI, too. Some people do it this way, others rinse out and smooth or scrunch more in. Others use a different condish for a LI. If you still aren't getting good results, you can try some cheaper on ground products for awhile to see what methods/types of products work well for you. Some people can not strictly co-wash and need a low-poo occasionally, and some can never co-wash and always use low-poo. Some people find using a cheapie condish to co-wash and more moisturizing condish to RO works better. (Like Asianrunner said) I do suggest however, giving it more time. I have read it can take your hair a few weeks to adjust, the adjustment period varies from person to person, depending on hair type, and your scalp! (if it's oily, normal or dry)
I actually skipped the Deva line as intro line because I had read the general consensus was that it didn't get good results for most. I went straight for drugstore on ground products to try 1st.
You can also curl creams in addition to or instead of a LI, this might help tighten up and define your curls.

I think we *all* need to experiment with products, methods, and techniques to find what works for us!
I, too, had reservations after my 1st week CG. Keep in mind, healthy moisturized hair feels and looks different than dried out hair. It is something you will need to get used to! But it very, very worth it. My waves tightened up quite a bit once they got that important moisture vs. protein balance! And it feels amazing.
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Last edited by swtndspcy; 05-15-2011 at 07:35 AM.
Thanks soo much. I have some Johnson's Baby Shampoo, so I will be using that for my pre-CG shampoo and then I will continue form there using my DevaCurl for a while to see how it plays out. When I get a chance, I will get a different condish for my co-wash and use the Devacurl for my Rinse-out. Can anybody please tell me what LI means? Hoping the Devacurl will show some good results after I use it for a while longer...the right way. lol. I'll get back to you guys to let you all know how things are going and if I have any more questions. Again, thanks for all the help!
LI=leave in

There's a sticky at the top of this forum that has a thread of the frequently used acronyms. It REALLY helps to know the language everyone uses to understand the information.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams

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