Second day hair

Hello everyone!
So, I sort of joined because I realized I need help really bad! This is my big, ever-present question...
How do I achieve second day hair?!
My issue is that I have very short hair...I can't exactly pile it up on my head, you know? And, aside from that, the frizz isn't the only problem I have. Short hair, for me, likes to move...and then stay that way! So I wake up looking like I'm some kind of weird fashion model...it's all stuck over to one side, or worse yet, the middle, and it likes to stick up as high as it can! And I can STILL have curls while this happens!
I don't have a satin pillowcase, but I'm not so worried about the frizz, to be honest. I know how to deal with the frizz. If I found it that bad, I'd probably find a satin pillowcase, or something like that.

The reason this is such a problem for me is because I end up showering EVERY day, sometimes even twice a day (I tend to take my makeup off in the shower, and warm up in there, so it's nice for the evening, too!). I get such dry skin from this, as well as having to get my hair wet all the time. I go through so much product, and when/if I dye my hair, I'd kind of like that to last, too!
Also, for reference, I don't get oily hair. I've gone once for more than a week without my hair getting oily.
Thanks!
For a lot of us, second day hair can be really difficult to achieve. So you're not alone!!!! How short is your hair? Like a pixie or a bob? I have a short asymmetrical bob and I wash my hair every other day (I'd love to go an extra day but I'm dealing with dandruff right now and washing it more seems to help.) At nighttime, I sleep with a silk cap to help preserve some of my waves. In the morning, I take a semi-soaking wet washcloth and carefully scrunch some definition back into my hair. I then spray some Curl Junkie Curl Fuel all over my head (not too much though) and do some more scrunching. If I need to, I add a little bit of gel and then pixie diffuse on cold for a few minutes. This usually brings my hair back to normal.

For the sake of your skin, I would stop showering twice a day. You're depleting the natural oils on your skin and that's you're so dry. If the washcloth method doesn't work for you, you can can either buy an already-made curl refresher or make one of your own. If you're noticing your hair color fading from washing so much, try investing in a sulfate-free and color-safe 'poo and conditioner to help keep the color fresh. Again, only washing your once a day or every other day will help a lot with that. Good luck!!!!
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OMGoodness! I think my skin and hair just dried up just from reading you shower twice day! LOL
Re-wetting is the only way I can get 2nd day hair too. I use a bottle mister though. Using a satin scarf/sleeping cap should help too. The sides of my hair stick straight out after I take down my pineapple, and can only get them to lay back down by getting them very damp.
Do actually wash your skin/hair twice a day?? Or just getting in there and warm up under the water? Using a shower cap would prevent you from having to style twice a day (and quite honestly if you are soaking it down twice a day, I wouldn't think that's too good for it! There is a difference from soaking it and just dampening it) and using an oil would help protect your skin from the drying effects of 2 showers.
The only time I shower twice in a day is if I have been sweating, and then I use oil on my arms and legs and just rinse off with cool water, just to rinse off the sweat and extra oil just so I will be more comfortable to sleep.
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Ditto what swtndspcy and hippiechic81 have already said. I'm itchy just thinking about those two showers!

I definitely would invest in a satin bonnet (they're all of $2.50 at Sally). While it's great for preventing frizz, it also helps keep your hair from moving around as much, so it might reduce the chances of your hair getting mashed up on one side of your head.

If you find misting your hair isn't enough to bring it back into position, you could rinse it with cool water without getting in the shower or using shampoo. This should reduce the color loss, although I still think the spray bottle is a much better idea. I have APL hair but very short bangs which can get extremely crazy overnight, and I can always mist them into submission.

If you are going to wash your hair each time you wet it, I heartily second hippiechic's suggestion of sulfate-free gentle shampoo. I have all-over color, plus vibrant, deep violet-blue highlights. Since the highlights are semi-permanent they are prone to fading. I always wash in cool water, and I use a gentle shampoo with a very mild surfactant (SM Moisture Retention - as swtndspcy knows from another thread, I am way into the Shea Moisture line right now). My hair is very thick and when I sweat it's usually from my head (so attractive!). I also have a touch of seborrheic dermatitis, so no-pooing alone isn't an option for me (always causes a flare-up). I lo-poo every three days or so, misting and/or co-washing in between. In spite of its mildness, SMMR cleans very effectively for me without stripping my color or drying my hair. In fact, my stylist is always surprised at how little my highlights fade between appointments.

There are lots of recipes and suggestions for making your own curl reviver spray (check the recipe section, but also run a search because there are threads regarding this in other forums). For the first time in my life, I've been able to get second day hair (sometimes even third) with an AVG/H2O mixture. It's easy-peasy, and cheap! There's a recent thread about homemade sprays here: Recipe for curl refresher spray?, and you can use the advanced searching feature to find a bunch more.

If you do keep showering twice a day, I would definitely follow swtndspcy's advice about using an oil. She and I are both HUGE coconut oil fans. It doesn't feel greasy, and it's great for your skin. I would also consider investing in a shower filter. I have this one: Shower water filter system with showerhead AQ-4100 by Aquasana, and it's made a huge difference for me. Totally worth the money. Plus, I just found a 30% off code in my email box. PM me (anybody) if you want the code - I feel like it's unethical for me to post it. I'm a dork like that.

Let us know how it all works out!
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Lowpoo:
Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
Love flour sack towels.
Coconut oil = magic!
OMGoodness! I think my skin and hair just dried up just from reading you shower twice day! LOL
Re-wetting is the only way I can get 2nd day hair too. I use a bottle mister though. Using a satin scarf/sleeping cap should help too. The sides of my hair stick straight out after I take down my pineapple, and can only get them to lay back down by getting them very damp.
Do actually wash your skin/hair twice a day?? Or just getting in there and warm up under the water? Using a shower cap would prevent you from having to style twice a day (and quite honestly if you are soaking it down twice a day, I wouldn't think that's too good for it! There is a difference from soaking it and just dampening it) and using an oil would help protect your skin from the drying effects of 2 showers.
The only time I shower twice in a day is if I have been sweating, and then I use oil on my arms and legs and just rinse off with cool water, just to rinse off the sweat and extra oil just so I will be more comfortable to sleep.
Originally Posted by swtndspcy
Out of curiousity, is it bad for your hair to get it wet twice a day?
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Shampoo:Suave Naturals Coconut, YTCarrots, Giovanni 50:50
Cowash: Suave Naturals Coconut Condish, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing condish
Rinse Out: Suave Naturals Coconut Condish, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing condish, YTCarrots Pampering mud Condish
Stylers: GF Curl Spray Gel, LA Looks Curl gel, Loreal frizz serum, Tresemme curl mousse, Pantene Spray gel, Biotera curl creme
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OMGoodness! I think my skin and hair just dried up just from reading you shower twice day! LOL
Re-wetting is the only way I can get 2nd day hair too. I use a bottle mister though. Using a satin scarf/sleeping cap should help too. The sides of my hair stick straight out after I take down my pineapple, and can only get them to lay back down by getting them very damp.
Do actually wash your skin/hair twice a day?? Or just getting in there and warm up under the water? Using a shower cap would prevent you from having to style twice a day (and quite honestly if you are soaking it down twice a day, I wouldn't think that's too good for it! There is a difference from soaking it and just dampening it) and using an oil would help protect your skin from the drying effects of 2 showers.
The only time I shower twice in a day is if I have been sweating, and then I use oil on my arms and legs and just rinse off with cool water, just to rinse off the sweat and extra oil just so I will be more comfortable to sleep.
Originally Posted by swtndspcy
Out of curiousity, is it bad for your hair to get it wet twice a day?
Originally Posted by rascalluver11
Well, depends. Like I said, dampening it is different than soaking it. With a misting, you aren't overstretching and overswelliing it.
Soaking it on the other hand, stretches and swells the hair. Which can lead to damage.
This tends to be more of a problem with finer and more porous hair than thicker less porous hair, which doesn't let as much water in as finer porous hair does.
If you do NEED to get it completely wet 2 times a day, it's best to coat it with an oil, like EVOO or EVCO, which penetrates the hair shaft and helps the hair not soak up as much water.
This knowledge is especially helpful with summer coming, before swimming, you can mist with water and smooth some oil into your hair 5 minutes before getting in the water to prevent your hair soaking up chlorine or salt water, or just too much water from a lake, or where ever you swim.
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OMGoodness! I think my skin and hair just dried up just from reading you shower twice day! LOL
Re-wetting is the only way I can get 2nd day hair too. I use a bottle mister though. Using a satin scarf/sleeping cap should help too. The sides of my hair stick straight out after I take down my pineapple, and can only get them to lay back down by getting them very damp.
Do actually wash your skin/hair twice a day?? Or just getting in there and warm up under the water? Using a shower cap would prevent you from having to style twice a day (and quite honestly if you are soaking it down twice a day, I wouldn't think that's too good for it! There is a difference from soaking it and just dampening it) and using an oil would help protect your skin from the drying effects of 2 showers.
The only time I shower twice in a day is if I have been sweating, and then I use oil on my arms and legs and just rinse off with cool water, just to rinse off the sweat and extra oil just so I will be more comfortable to sleep.
Originally Posted by swtndspcy
Out of curiousity, is it bad for your hair to get it wet twice a day?
Originally Posted by rascalluver11
Well, depends. Like I said, dampening it is different than soaking it. With a misting, you aren't overstretching and overswelliing it.
Soaking it on the other hand, stretches and swells the hair. Which can lead to damage.
This tends to be more of a problem with finer and more porous hair than thicker less porous hair, which doesn't let as much water in as finer porous hair does.
If you do NEED to get it completely wet 2 times a day, it's best to coat it with an oil, like EVOO or EVCO, which penetrates the hair shaft and helps the hair not soak up as much water.
This knowledge is especially helpful with summer coming, before swimming, you can mist with water and smooth some oil into your hair 5 minutes before getting in the water to prevent your hair soaking up chlorine or salt water, or just too much water from a lake, or where ever you swim.
Originally Posted by swtndspcy
This is very helpful! I have fine hair and due to riding horses and being active I'm dirty alot lol. But this definitely makes sense. Thank you!
Haley<3

3a/b hair, fine texture, medium porosity and volume (ii)!
Shampoo:Suave Naturals Coconut, YTCarrots, Giovanni 50:50
Cowash: Suave Naturals Coconut Condish, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing condish
Rinse Out: Suave Naturals Coconut Condish, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing condish, YTCarrots Pampering mud Condish
Stylers: GF Curl Spray Gel, LA Looks Curl gel, Loreal frizz serum, Tresemme curl mousse, Pantene Spray gel, Biotera curl creme
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Out of curiousity, is it bad for your hair to get it wet twice a day?
Originally Posted by rascalluver11
Well, depends. Like I said, dampening it is different than soaking it. With a misting, you aren't overstretching and overswelliing it.
Soaking it on the other hand, stretches and swells the hair. Which can lead to damage.
This tends to be more of a problem with finer and more porous hair than thicker less porous hair, which doesn't let as much water in as finer porous hair does.
If you do NEED to get it completely wet 2 times a day, it's best to coat it with an oil, like EVOO or EVCO, which penetrates the hair shaft and helps the hair not soak up as much water.
This knowledge is especially helpful with summer coming, before swimming, you can mist with water and smooth some oil into your hair 5 minutes before getting in the water to prevent your hair soaking up chlorine or salt water, or just too much water from a lake, or where ever you swim.
Originally Posted by swtndspcy
This is very helpful! I have fine hair and due to riding horses and being active I'm dirty alot lol. But this definitely makes sense. Thank you!
Originally Posted by rascalluver11
You're quite welcome!
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If you do keep showering twice a day, I would definitely follow swtndspcy's advice about using an oil. She and I are both HUGE coconut oil fans. It doesn't feel greasy, and it's great for your skin. I would also consider investing in a shower filter. I have this one: Shower water filter system with showerhead AQ-4100 by Aquasana, and it's made a huge difference for me. Totally worth the money. Plus, I just found a 30% off code in my email box. PM me (anybody) if you want the code - I feel like it's unethical for me to post it. I'm a dork like that.

Let us know how it all works out!
Originally Posted by bluesheep
I totally agree that I personally would opt for the coco oil! I use it head to toe, everyday!
And a shower head filter is a good idea, hard water will dry your skin and hair out faster, too.
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Hi! I'm newish to this and have pretty short hair too (about 2 - 3 inches, 4a/b). I had a very hard time getting 2nd day hair until recently. I don't know how much of this is applicable to you but here's what REALLY helped:

- sleeping cap! something silky. They're cheap and they really make a big difference, my hair moves less during the night. It looks the same as when I went to sleep except a bit shrunken. I just get up and then (since I always have flattened sections) kind of gently tug at the flat parts (sides, back) and pat down the top a bit and I'm ready to go

- Using a gel, I never used gel before I started reading this site, but I've noticed that after using it, my hair is MUCH better the next day than if I use just conditioner.

- If my hair is too messed up for just tugging it back into place I either mist it with water from a cheap plastic bottle, or I run my hands under the sink and then run my wet hands through my hair. When my hair is damp I add just a little more conditioner or maybe gel to it.

A lot of times lately I find that my second, even 3rd day hair is actually BETTER than wash day (more volume and softer because the gel gets slowly rubbed out). It's not unusual for me to go 4 or 5 days between washes now and it used to be a mandatory, daily thing.

I do think alot of it might be just practice and paying more attention recently, though.

Good luck!
So I put a little EVOO in my hair and I didn't like the results at all! It made my hair greasy feeling and stringy. :/ I have fine hair so could this have been too much moisture?
Haley<3

3a/b hair, fine texture, medium porosity and volume (ii)!
Shampoo:Suave Naturals Coconut, YTCarrots, Giovanni 50:50
Cowash: Suave Naturals Coconut Condish, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing condish
Rinse Out: Suave Naturals Coconut Condish, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing condish, YTCarrots Pampering mud Condish
Stylers: GF Curl Spray Gel, LA Looks Curl gel, Loreal frizz serum, Tresemme curl mousse, Pantene Spray gel, Biotera curl creme
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Finer haired curlies sometimes find EVOO is too heavy for their hair. When I use it, I have to low-poo a couple of times to get it out. I switched to coconut oil and it washes out much easier (with just a co-wash) for me!
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So I put a little EVOO in my hair and I didn't like the results at all! It made my hair greasy feeling and stringy. :/ I have fine hair so could this have been too much moisture?
Originally Posted by rascalluver11
My hair is medium-slightly coarse and extremely dense, and it HATES EVOO! The couple of times I've used it (even mixed into products or treatments) it's made my hair look greasy and stringy. Horrible. I second the coconut oil vote, but you could also try jojoba (my hair loves that, too), grapeseed, or sweet almond. If your hair is fine I would use a light hand. You can always add more.
3b/3a, medium porosity, slightly coarse, high elasticity, high density. CG 2004; mod CG since 2006. CG again since 4/1/11.

Lowpoo:
Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
Love flour sack towels.
Coconut oil = magic!
The hair care industry has conditioned us to think that emollients moisturize. This is not true. Moisture is water. Our curls need that water in order to form. Emollients can protect the moisture in our hair, but it needs to get into the hair first. You can mist it, or finger dampen.

As someone with ultra fine hair, I would find EVOO too heavy for my hair. A scant amount of jojoba oil, or coconut oil works well for me when I feel the need.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008

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