Is it ok if I never DT?

If I ever feel my hair is a little dry after I have shampooed it with a clarifying shampoo (which I do maybe once a month because of our very hard water), then I just leave in a bunch of conditioner during an hour under a towel (so no heat). Does the trick for me. This doesn't happen every month.
Originally Posted by Kurlee
That's really a DT, just like I explained above.

Originally Posted by HalfWavyHalfCurly
Yeah I know, I just don't do them very often so in general I don't do DT's.
I never do. I just pay attention to how it feels after I rinse out the shampoo. If it feels like it's gonna be dry, I use more conditioner than usual or a richer one. But I usually only have 1 or 2 in my rotation. My gel has moisturizing ingredients like coconut and hemp oils, so I'm good to go.
"For many years the National Pretend Speed Limit was fifty-five miles per hour"--Dave Barry

PW: frizzella
Hi modegrrl, Happy New Year! I remember you from way back, you circulated a recipe for a winter moisturizing spray for touch-ups (I even seem to remember you used Suave Strawberry, am I correct?). I know you know how to take care of your hair so this question is just out of curiosity: I thought you had been on CG, are you on the modified version?
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
Wow if I DT'd every week I'd just have FLUFF all the time. My hair takes about 4 days to recover from a DT Yep i've only ever DT'd once to experiment and it was a no-goer. It was after I'd coloured my hair too, so when it was at it's driest. Maybe if I lived in a hotter, drier climate I'd need to do them but Scotland is so cold and wet that (even though some curlies say cold weather dries them out) it doesn't need any. I know that when I was in China my hair was a frizz ball allllll the time and I should have been doing DT's but here in Scotland I'm a DT-free zone :P I also use a cream styler every time, under a gel, so maybe that's why my hair is so happy?

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
jenny, I think you're on to something. The climate of coastal Alaska is very similar to the weather in the Highlands & Islands region of Scotland. Humidity rarely falls below 80% here. Perhaps that's why DT's don't do much for me here, & I only have them done in the salon maybe twice per year. What cream do you use btw? Are you referring to the T&G balm...?
3B, bra-strap length
laidback, very-modified CGer
HG: GF Sleek 'n Shine Leave-in; Alagio
Yep it is indeed the Toni&Guy curl balm that is unfortunately discontinued (so don't try any of their other curl products as all the one's I've seen are loaded with cones!)

It's pretty similar to the Trevor Sorbie Curl Cream before it got reformulated. I have 5 tubes of it and I really hope something new comes out before my stocks run out!

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
Yeah I think the humidity has a lot to do with the DT being necessary or not. 60% is as bone dry as we get here and we maybe get 10 days a year or so seems like of that. Usually it's so humid that when I use a hard hold gel if I have any crunch stepping outside will take that out within minutes.
It also means I don't generally need a heavy conditioner.

Dang it JF no wonder I can't find that cream! Ah well one less thing for me to spend money on I guess. I hope you find a suitable substitute.

ETA: you know your green tea gel has been discontinued too. I found a place that has it but I'm afraid to try it because if I like it I'll not be able to find it again soon. It looks great in your hair though
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
Yep both my regular styling products are discontinued I have 5 tubes of the T&G cream and 2 bottles of the gel. When I first got the gel I didnt like it but they I worked out how to use it so that I do like it. I'd say go for it It made my hair super crispy and thin when I first used it but by scrunching it out with the Jane Carter nourishing hair creme my hair loves it!

I'm determined to not hunt for a new gel until I'm half way through my last bottle...

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
Wow you're brave waiting that long to find a new gel.
Did you try Arc Angell? If you did did it not work for you? I can't remember if you did. I just love it but I know some others aren't as crazy about it. It did take me a bit to work out how to use it best too, kind of like you with the green tea one.
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
I've got a litre bottle of the Arc Angell and a smaller size one too. I tried using it once, there's a photo in my most recent album (the first photo I think). It made my hair really big which I didnt mind but didnt seem to hold up to second day hair too well (not enough hold). And I needed to use a LOT. I tried using it on second day dry hair, several times. And each time it made my hair feel super greasy and producty and generally in good need of a wash. Since its from teh US I dont want to make it my regular gel, as it would be v. expensive to buy but I'm still trying to figure it out really....

I've only tried it with a cream underneath so I guess I could try it without the cream for more hold? Everyyone says they get crunch with it but I never have - again maybe the cream?

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
Yeah I bet it's the cream. I had to scrunch out some of the water in my hair before applying it so I get a lot of crunch. I got quite a lot of crunch today, I was scared my hair was going to not scrunch out ok. It did great though.
I used a heavier leave in one time with it, no crunch at all that time. I love soft hair but it doesn't stand up to humidity very well.
It's overcast and 90% humidity or so today and it's holding up well without being greasy.

Good luck playing with it
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
I never DT anymore, ever, because it always leaves me overconditioned. The only thing that approximates DT for me is when I am at the beach, when I slather my hair with oil before I go out in the sun. It comes out pretty fluffy then, too.

It was about a year after I started CG that I started noticing that each and every time I used heat or even a plastic cap my hair came out uncontrollably fluffy and overconditioned. Before that I DT'd once a week, and did an oil treatment once a week. No more, though.
I don't think it's a good idea at all to put oil on our hair before going out in the sun unless it's for a short time. My hair got damaged once like that; think about it, when we baste a chicken/turkey with it's own fat the skin (which comes in contact with it) gets crispy...
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
I think the oil you baste your turkey with is a lot hotter than your head in the sunshine. I've found that being in the sun with an oily head is akin to doing a hot oil treatment: my hair just comes out soft and shiny, sometimes overconditioned-fluffy. Maybe it helps to be popping in and out of the water.

I don't know, but I don't think it's uncommon to put oil in your hair to keep the sun and saltwater from drying it out.
I have hair long enough to sit on. I baby it and it's in excellent condition but I don't even remember the last time I did a DT. I am planning on doing one tonight because I made the mistake of putting a small amount of lemon juice in my henna mix last weekend. I know my hair gets straw-like with lemon juice. Duh. Generally though, they are not necessary for me.
3a/b, fine, lots of it
Hmm, let's not forget that UV rays are way worse than raw heat. Maybe because you lucked out because you were popping in and out of the water and thus got the benefit of a "hot oil" treatment only, but everyone else's circumstances may be different, my hair is fine and color-treated which right there makes it more fragile. All it took for me was to stand at a bus stop for like half an hour. But something similar happened I think to one of my sisters and someone else I knew, so just a word of caution!
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
I never DT or "clarify" - I simply don't have a need to do anything but cowash, condition, leave some in, apply products, and the cycle starts again. My hair is usually very soft...no need for all that extra mumbo jumbo
2b/3a/3b botticelli curls, medium fine, medium coarse

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