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Old 05-17-2011, 04:01 PM   #1
 
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Unhappy Help! 2 weeks CG... and I look GROSS

Hi, everyone. After a long time lurking, I decided to take the plunge and go CG on May 2, 2011. I had great curls as a kid, but have blown and ironed my hair straight for about a decade (8th grade until now, post-grad school). I wore my hair curly in public only in cases of extreme laziness, finals week, etc., and always pulled up, never loose. What motivated me to make the switch was losing about 5" of hair I'd worked SO hard to grow out at my last haircut. It was full of split ends and not worth keeping. I figured there had to be a healthier way for my hair, and started off with a lot of hope for CG.

I'm pretty sure my hair is 3a-b, no clue about porosity, thickness, etc. After the aforementioned disaster haircut, my hair is about shoulder length.

My current routine is:
Co-wash with Suave Naturals Coconut.
Leave-In Curl Junkie Curl Rehab (sometimes a light rinse out)
Scrunch in Curl Keeper and then Re:Coil
Air dry with roots clipped up with duck clips
Scrunch out the crunch

Problems:
My hair takes at least 5 hours to dry. I start a new job in a week, and that is just not going to be possible each morning.
My hair dries hard and crunchy.
My hair dries as small, stringy curls with no clumping.
It just looks gross and bad. I think that I need a better, curl-specific haircut, so that could be part of it, but aside from the shape of the cut, the curls just look... yuck. Sorry, I know that's not very descriptive.

Please, seasoned curlies... any advice? I really don't want to give this up, because I want my hair to be healthy AND I'm really working on accepting myself as I am... but this is making me want to go back to the straightener.

Thanks for your help!
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Old 05-17-2011, 06:54 PM   #2
 
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Curl Keeper and re:coil shouldn't make your hair hard. I use them (whenever the dews get up to 45F), and one of the things I love is that there's almost no crunch, scrunches out with almost no effort, and I can redampen my hair, have the clumps reform, and it's still soft. I suggest putting re:coil on first, if you aren't already. Before I started using the new CG system, with the sprinkle rinse, I was using a leave in (Giovanni Direct Leave In), mixed the re:coil with that, and applied them together.

I don't know Curl Junkie, so I can't offer any insights into how Curl Rehab may be playing with the rest.

Stringiness IMO is most likely a result of technique. If you're raking product into your hair, combing or brushing it, that is most likely what's causing that. Since Tiffany Anderson taught me to squish my products in, I have had no problems with stringiness.

My hair takes a long time to dry also. I wash my hair before going to bed. Sleeping with my hair in a plop, and my pillow covered with a towel allowed me to have good hair in the morning without washing my hair before it was long enough to put up in high pigtails to protect it at night. If my curls need a little refreshing in the morning, I redampen it very lightly. I get my hands wet, shake any water droplets off, run my hands quickly and lightly over my hair, then scrunch. (In winter, I also apply a scant amount of emulsified Boots Curl Creme, but I rarely use Curl Keeper in winter.)
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:05 PM   #3
 
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Hmm, do you put in too much product? Sometimes that can be a problem, certain people's hair benefit more from the "a little bit goes a long way" mentality and their hair just needs to be gently coaxed into being curly. I know putting too much stuff into my hair can make it freak out, lol.

Also, definitely give a deep treatment a try! Maybe your hair is desperately in need of moisture; it sounds like it could only help it at this point. I straightened my hair for a good two years or so every single day and after a good hair cut and a few DTs, as well as a good moisturizing daily conditioner (which you already have), it improved sooooo much
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:24 PM   #4
 
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Thank you both SO MUCH for the suggestions. It sounds like I might be a little too heavy-handed with the products. I like the idea of overnight plopping, I'm going to give that a try, as well as a deep treatment. Also, I have been putting on CK before re:coil, but it sounds like the other way around might be better.

I really appreciate the new ideas of things to try. I'm going to keep at it and give them a shot!
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:33 AM   #5
 
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I'd say it was also probably Curl Keeper - I loath that stuff as it makes my hair greasy and stringy no matter how little I use.

Also - diffusers are your friend They help set my curl and make it spring up and also stop me from having wet hair all day which I cannot stand.

CG takes a while. Your scalp needs time to adjust and you've only been going a few weeks. I think the general rule of thumb is to give your hair around 6 months. Thats not to say it will look bad for 6 months, but it does require a lot of trial and error. It could be that these products just aren't for you.

Figuring out your texture and porosity is essential to figuring out your hair - curl pattern doesn't play that bigger part. I would suggest investing in the curly wizard analysis as this tells you your hair properties and gives quite a few products suggestions to help save money in the long run. Good luck!

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Old 05-18-2011, 05:48 AM   #6
 
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I'd say it was also probably Curl Keeper - I loath that stuff as it makes my hair greasy and stringy no matter how little I use.

Also - diffusers are your friend They help set my curl and make it spring up and also stop me from having wet hair all day which I cannot stand.

CG takes a while. Your scalp needs time to adjust and you've only been going a few weeks. I think the general rule of thumb is to give your hair around 6 months. Thats not to say it will look bad for 6 months, but it does require a lot of trial and error. It could be that these products just aren't for you.

Figuring out your texture and porosity is essential to figuring out your hair - curl pattern doesn't play that bigger part. I would suggest investing in the curly wizard analysis as this tells you your hair properties and gives quite a few products suggestions to help save money in the long run. Good luck!
All of this! Lol. A thousand times all of this. Your hair will definitely take a while to adjust haha, which can totally be the most annoying thing to hear and have to deal with, cause you want your hair to look good RIGHT NOW. So I feel your pain.

But yeah, there's definitely the possibility of these products just not working right for you. Try using less of them, see if that happens, try only using one of them at a time -- and if all of that fails, then try adding other things into your rotation Keep an eye on the ingredients. See if there's something that pops up multiple times in the ones that work well and the ones that don't.
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thick; medium/coarse; low porosity.
hair that is drier than the sahara desert.

LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:26 AM   #7
 
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I find Curl Junkie Curl Rehab to be really rich. I have thick 3C hair and I can generally only use it as a deep treatment. If I leave too much in my hair I end up with a head full of frizz.
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