Dry FRIZZZY HAIR! Help

I am a South Indian with 2C or 3a hair newbie.New to this forum.Have been doing my research and decided to take the plunge.

So did my sulphate wash with Herbal Essence (hello Hydration).... Let it to dry....


Next day put an avacoda+honey+mayo+butter hair mash.. Washed it off and did co wash with Banana Conditioner from body wash and ACV rinse. Applied Rainforest Moisture Hair Butter and let it to air dry.

Result : Extreme frizz and dry hair .... And combed my hair after the air dry... No more curl! just dry frizzy hair...

How do I comb without losing my curls?
Why is my hair drying out?

What am I doing wrong.. Plzzz suggest.. Any suggestion/ideas is fine.
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Are you starting CG? If so, make sure your products don't have silicones in them! The Hello Hydration shampoo may have cones.

Also, it may take awhile to get the moisture/protein balance...

What are your hair properties (texture, porosity, elasticity...)
2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 313
+1 to all of the above.

Here are some helpful links (a bit of light reading LOL):
favs:
The College Curly: Laura Lee's All In One Guide to Going CG: Now Revised and Updated!
Texture, Porosity, and other Hair Type Madness - CurlTalk
TECHNIQUES LINKS: SuperSoaker,Spritz&Condish,Plopping,Frizz,Clipping IceQueen, etc - CurlTalk
Acronyms/Abbreviations/Definitions! - CurlTalk
Also good:
Curly Nikki | Natural Hair Styles and Curly Hair Care: Tiffany the Curl Whisperer
Useful Curly Links - CurlTalk
The Long Hair Community Discussion Boards - Damaged Hair: Understanding, Preventing & Rehabilitating
Dew Points « Pittsburgh Curly
Share your Hair Biography - CurlTalk

I like pre-wash overnight oiling with olive or coconut oil - these are some of the few oils that can penetrate the hair shaft. Other oils are great for sealing the moisture inside wet hair. For overnight oiling, I'd start with 1/4 tsp and increase it by 1/4 tsp each time you do an overnight treatment. Some people use several teaspoons, but some need to use much less because it makes their hair greasy.

Combing dry curls turns them into fluff. Sometimes this is good look, mostly ...not. But, once your hair is more manageable, you will be able to comb your hair in the shower then not feel the need to comb your hair again at all when it is dry. I have a similar curl pattern - this is what I do to neaten them up on day 2, etc: I grab a chunk of my hair, not breaking apart the curl clump, then smooth it out like I am making a ponytail. I do this all over my head (5-8 sections), leaning over so I maintain my crown volume. Sometimes I put a dab of something wet on my fingers when I do the smoothing (water, gel, oil, conditioner, curl cream). Sometimes I gently comb the first inch of my crown area with my fingertips then let my fingertips glide over the surface of the rest of the length, all the while leaning over to keep my crown fluffed. Sometimes to perk up the curls after smoothing, I press the ends of my hair toward my scalp with a flat hand.
Welcome!
m-c iii-ii | loose spirals with ringlets

Last edited by gecko; 06-10-2011 at 08:04 AM.
It could be your conditioner with the mayo. My hair doesn't react great to proteins and mayo has eggs which is protein.

I suggest that you get a curl analyis from Curl Wizard and you can attack the hair with information.

You also probably need a gel on top of your hair butter.

3b, Medium-Coarse (slight coarse charactericstics), Normal porosity & Low elasticity per Curl Wizard Profile.
Low-poo: Nourish Shampoo
Co-wash: Suave, Vo5, HE, Aussie Moist
Deep Conditioner: GVP Conditioning Balm
Leave-in: Nourish Conditioner (Trader Joe's)
Stylers: LA Looks Sports, Coconut Oil, Almond Oil, Jojoba Oil.
Methods: Wet plop or pineapple at night, diffuse in the morning. Scrunch w/joboba, coconut or almond oil.
You'll get more detailed answers if you can tell us your hair properties. 2c/3A means nothing. That's just your curl pattern. We'd need to know at least your hair density (fine, medium, coarse, thin, thick) and porosity (highly porous, normal porosity or low porosity) as products will affect everyone's hair differently depending on their properties.

Based on the limited information here, I'd say first off that the shampoo could be the problem. Sulfates can strip your hair of essential oils and curlies are advised to avoid shampoos containing them. Another thing is that combing your hair dry is a HUGE no-no. It leads to frizz. The only time a comb should touch your hair is when it is wet and loaded with conditioner, meaning right after you wash it. Last thing is, curly and kinky hair is naturally dry. You need to add moisture to your hair. You could experiment with adding a moisturizer to your hair and then sealing with an oil (castor, jojoba, coconut, olive) or a butter to lock in the moisture.
Fine haired, low density, highly porous curly kinky lady
Last relaxer: Not sure. 3/08 or 4/08
BC'd: 9/18/09
Co-wash: Suave Naturals, HEHH, Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle, CJ Daily Fix
Leave-In: KCKT, Giovanni Direct Leave-In, CJ Smoothing Lotion
Stylers: ORS Twist and Loc Gel, KCCC, Ecostyler, SheaMoisture Deep Treatment Masque
Deep Conditioner: DevaCurl Heaven In Hair, CJ Deep Fix

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I am a South Indian with 2C or 3a hair newbie.New to this forum.Have been doing my research and decided to take the plunge.

So did my sulphate wash with Herbal Essence (hello Hydration).... Let it to dry....


Next day put an avacoda+honey+mayo+butter hair mash.. Washed it off and did co wash with Banana Conditioner from body wash and ACV rinse. Applied Rainforest Moisture Hair Butter and let it to air dry.

Result : Extreme frizz and dry hair .... And combed my hair after the air dry... No more curl! just dry frizzy hair...

How do I comb without losing my curls?
Why is my hair drying out?

What am I doing wrong.. Plzzz suggest.. Any suggestion/ideas is fine.
Originally Posted by Curly Indian
Welcome! I'm Indian too lol love your name.

I'm kinda new as well- only 2 months CG. but I'm getting there.
If you are CG, I agree with the above posters, stay away from cones- which HE hello hydration DOES have. You'll need to do another final sulphate wash with a shampoo that has no cones. Cones end in -cone, -xane, and -conol. (I can't remember if there are any more- you might want to look that up)

To comb w/o losing curls, you'll need to comb/detangle your hair in the shower while it's drenched with condish. Once your hair is dry, ABSOLUTELY NO TOUCHY WITH A COMB. that sets you up for major frizz and I know, as Indians, our moms,aunts,and grandmothers are always like"go brush your hair". But brushing when your hair is dry causes breakage and breaks up your curls, leaving it poofy and frizzy. My hair gets HUMONGOUS.

I'm not sure why your hair is drying out because I still suck at the moisture/protein balance thing. So can't help you there... Sorry

The other ladies here know a lot more than me, and the community at NC.com is just wonderful. Anytime you have more questions, ask away! Everyone's here to help.
3B,thick,medium/coarse,high porosity(i think),low elasticity
DRYDRYDRY hair.
CG since: 4/17/11
cowash: tresseme naturals moisture or smooth
rinse out: GFTN
leave in: a little bit of my rinse out
Stylers (gels): (if I feel like it) LALSG or Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Styling Gel
*Currently need: a good deep conditioning treament for my DRYDRYDRY hair- if you can suggest any good (cheapie) DTs, I would really appreciate it!
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I am a South Indian with 2C or 3a hair newbie.New to this forum.Have been doing my research and decided to take the plunge.

So did my sulphate wash with Herbal Essence (hello Hydration).... Let it to dry....


Next day put an avacoda+honey+mayo+butter hair mash.. Washed it off and did co wash with Banana Conditioner from body wash and ACV rinse. Applied Rainforest Moisture Hair Butter and let it to air dry.

Result : Extreme frizz and dry hair .... And combed my hair after the air dry... No more curl! just dry frizzy hair...

How do I comb without losing my curls?
Why is my hair drying out?

What am I doing wrong.. Plzzz suggest.. Any suggestion/ideas is fine.
Originally Posted by Curly Indian
Hi there, heard your concern.decided probably i can help. there are the countless home remedies that can help rescue dry hair, for example the tropical treat:Mash one over-ripe banana (the blacker, the better) with a mushy, rotten avocado. Massage this exotic puree into your hair and leave on for at least 15 minutes before washing out…in the kitchen sink!). or the grabbing a cold beer and spraying it on your hair to give it a nice sheen. But i would advice you to avoid overshampooing which washes away your hair protective oils.
You should also invest in a really good conditioner which will protect your hair’s cuticle layer from splitting from the shaft. Pick a conditioner that works well for your hair and use it after every shampoo.
i'd advice you to try coppola products, they work for me..they have an a wide product range to suit all your needs,
Here's a link: Keratin Products - Brazilian Keratin Treatment Reviews
some tips

You should NEVER comb dry hair. Only detangle when your hair is soaking wet and full of conditioner. Rinse carefully and blot dry carefully and your hair won't be a tangled mess.

Skip the shampoo. Shampoo dries your hair. You can cleanse without stripping your hair using conditioner or a sulfate free shampoo.

ACV rinse- if you use too much and don't condition after, it will dry your hair.

I don't like homemade treatments because I have a hard time removing it from my hair. I prefer a purchased deep treatment or protein treatment.
Thank you all for replying soo happy to feel @home here..... Lovely to meet an Indian CG


I am yet to figure out my hair properties.. Reading more on them.. will update soon... Also since my sulphate wash had cones I would have to start again!

Also I think the butter is drying my hair out!
cost a bomb though

Last edited by Curly Indian; 06-13-2011 at 06:05 AM.
I read some posts that recommended detangling with oil. I get such knots and shed hairs it's discouraging.
However, I tried it, probably used 1/2 cup of grapeseed oil, which did well for the smaller tangles. I had to add conditioner for the big ones. Ooh. Sat, all mushed up with oil and conditioner, thinking about my 1/2 inch clippers...

The rinse did something though. I didn't rinse it all out, just ran the water across my scalp and squeezed it down the hair shafts a couple of times. I added some KCCC and gel. Then I slept with it plopped in a t-shirt. Today the curls are defined, frizz is minimal. It has a slightly wet look, but isn't oily or greasy. i'm stunned.

Last edited by lizpiper; 06-14-2011 at 10:46 AM. Reason: addition
Much love from a fellow curly Indian
Hey I'm an Indian too I use the body shop moisture stuff cos they are the only non sulphate non silicone stuff I can lay my hands on :P but I totally love them though the conditioner s not so moisturizing as I would like but still it's good does anyone know where to get other silicone free conditioners in chennai?
You've gotten lots of good advice here -- Moisturize, no cones, comb only wet, conditioned hair (never dry hair), figure out what your hair properties are and select hair treatments according to that, etc. But another thing to keep in mind in the meantime so that you don't feel discouraged is that early on with CG, you very possibly will go through a 'transition period' where your hair is kind of freaking out from the drastic change in care it's getting -- BUT, it really is just a period of time, and your hair will definitely start responding to all the great new care it's receiving very soon. My hair looked like total CRAP right after I started CG , but after the transition period, it really started to look and feel a lot better. Thank goodness!

Btw, I love using homemade treatments because I can make just the amount I'll use, I can pick and choose what will work best for my hair (but you have to know your hair properties of course), and overall I find it's pretty economical.

Have fun experimenting and figuring out what products/treatments and routines work best for you!
3b / Fine / Low (to Med) Density / Normal Porosity & Elasticity

Currently Using [*Holy Grails*]
Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / *BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!): KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: *DM Super Buttercreme*

Goal: APL Hair

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