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alisons79 01-02-2007 08:22 PM

Curls Spiral Curls Cream
 
I was thinking about purchasing this product after hearing some raves about it the other day. I saw the ingredients on the Curls website and they have a couple cones listed in the ingredients of this but the Product Review on this website has different stuff listed. Has this been reformulated or can someone tell me which one is right? Thanks! :D

LavenderCurls 01-03-2007 08:36 AM

I think all that's changed is the scent :cry: . Alot of gals didn't like the candy smell of the original but I sure did. Now it smells like a lite version of the Ecstasy Hair Tea, which I can't stand the smell of :lol: . Wished I'd have known about the scent change - I wouldn't have gotten it if I had.

kjwavy 01-03-2007 09:26 AM

Hmmm, I have (& love) the older version of the Curls Spiral Cream, & I don't remember it having those cones in it.... I'm at work right now, so I don't have the bottle here, but I'll definitely have to check when I get home. I'm really curious now, because I usually stay away from cones in my styling products as they really tend to weigh my hair down :cry:

Gretchen 01-03-2007 10:15 AM

I'd be grateful if someone would email me if we find out for sure the ingredients have changed. And if you have the new ingreds to email me, too, I'd be very grateful.

laurabeth33 01-03-2007 11:27 AM

When did that formula change? So if I have a sample that smells cotton candy-like, it's the old formulation?

Can someone confirm if this the correct new ingred list (from curls.biz):

purified water, glycerin, emulsifying wax nf, polyimide-1, sunflower oil, aloe barbadensis leaf juice, cetearyl alcohol, ceteareth-20, octyl palmitate, silk protein, sodium carbomer, guar hydroxypropyl, trimonium chloride, panthenol, shea butter, wheat germ oil, coconut oil, jojoba oil, amodimethicone, dimethicone, sodium benzoate, potassium benzoate, ethyl hexyl glycerin, fragrance

I have the old ingred list as:

purified water, soybean oil, propylene glycol, cetearyl alcohol, ceteareth-20, glyceryl stearate, polyquaternium-11, hydroxypropyl guar, methylisothiazolinone, fragrance

...so that's a pretty significant change with polymide-1 instead of polyquat-11 for hold (see the CurlChemist's great article this month at http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlco...es.php?id=8821), not to mention all the additional oils, protein, and cones (thankfully, no cyclopentasiloxane though).

alisons79 01-03-2007 01:45 PM

Yes! Those are the ingredients that I saw on the Curls website the other day. I think I may copy the list that is here and e-mail the owner and ask her what's going on. I'll let everyone know what I find out!

kjwavy 01-03-2007 01:48 PM

My "old" formula bottle smells like watermelon jolly ranchers & that 2nd list of ingredients that you have posted, LB, look familiar.

I'm 99.9999% positive that my bottle does NOT have cones on the ingredient list, because I stay away from too many in my stylers (even the a-cone) as they tend to weigh my hair down (or make it too slippery & it won't hold the curl).

Suburbanbushbabe 01-03-2007 02:08 PM

Bottle I have at home (smells like Eau de Cherry Lifesaver) does not have any 'cone ingredients, but I would be interested in clarification on this. There seem to have been a few ingredients changes on the Curls products.

alisons79 01-03-2007 02:41 PM

Okay, I e-mailed Mahisha and here is what was said:

I said something like this:

I noticed the other day that the posted list of ingredients that you have for the Spiral Curl Cream are different than the ones posted on naturallycurly.com. The list that we have posted is: Purified water, soybean oil, propylene glycol, cetearyl alcohol, ceteareth-20, glycerly stearate, polyquaternium-11, hydroxypropyl guar, methylisothiazolinone, fragrance.

The list posted on your website is very different and in fact contains some
silicones that some of us try to stay away from.

I tham asked if the product had been reformulated.

She replied something along the lines of:

Naturally Curly has old versions for some time...the Curls site is updated with current ingredient lists. Please reference the Curls site if there are any questions on ingredients.

So it looks like the cones are here to stay.....has anyone ordered this recently that can confirm?? Hope this helps everyone who was thinking about ordering this!

ETA: paraphrases of the e-mails sent between the two of us. I apologize if anyone was upset by this. I was not aware of this rule. I would like to add however that no matter how much I paraphrase, I still feel that the answer I received was vague, direct quote or not! This is not the first time I have e-mailed a question and felt that I get a vague answer in return. Why the owner didn't feel that I was good enough to be "privy" to the complete answer that was eventually received is beyond me. So, again, sorry for the upset and have a nice day! :D

Texas Mama 01-03-2007 03:10 PM

I can confirm tonight when I get home. I just ordered SCC right before Christmas and got it a few days after. so I will list those later on tonight, m'kay ladies?

:wink:

SYB 01-03-2007 05:34 PM

Curls Spiral Curl Cream does have a new ingredient listing, and for anyone that would like to check it out, it is currently posted on the Curls website. This new product is not cone free and yes it does have a new scent to it. It now has the same scent as Curls Asian Hair Tea Conditioner, but in a slighty smaller amount.

For anyone that has any other questions or concerns regarding Curls products, it would be best to contact the owner Mahisha herself so that she can answer your comments respectively.

minix 01-03-2007 06:16 PM

Wow - I just checked the Curls Milkshake ingredients as I was going to buy a new one:

New ingredients:
Purified water, aloe barbadensis leaf juice, cetaaryl alcohol, behentrimonium methosulfate, jojoba oil, cetrimonium chloride, soy protein, soyamidoprpylkonium chloride, allantoin, soy lecithin, beeswax milk, coconut milk, aloe vera milk, milk amino acids, buttermilk, arnica extract, lavender extract, chamomile extract, white tea extract, methylisothiazolinone, fragrance

Old ingredients (according to my container)
Coconut milk, sweet almond milk, soy milk, cetearyl alcohol, coconut oil, olive oil, pomegranate seed oil, monoi de tahita, avocado oil, stearalkonium chloride, plumeria extract, rosemary extract, fragrance.

To me that's not just a reformulation - it's a totally different product.
I don't think I'm going to buy it now as it's trying something totally new rather than something that is tried and trusted.

laurabeth33 01-03-2007 06:34 PM

I just updated the ingreds with the new ones in the Product Reviews section. Thanks for the confirmation!

kjwavy 01-03-2007 06:44 PM

Wow, I'm glad I have a couple of back ups of the old formula Spiral Cream. The newer one doesn't look like it would work for me :( Thanks for the heads up on this, alisons79!!

Texas Mama 01-03-2007 07:00 PM

And a hearty THANKS to Laurabeth for not making me type out all that greek on the side of the bottle! :P

icequeen 01-03-2007 07:07 PM

I emailed Mahisha this a.m. regarding the products and asked if the SCC was reformulated. I also asked about using Curly Q products. I received a vague answer on not layering styling products (Milkshake and Souffle) and to use SCC for extra hold.
It's disappointing to not receive a straight answer on products and have no idea what you are getting. I was ready to place an order after a decent few days with a sample of Milkshake but think I will keep experimenting with other products. The trust factor just isn't there with Curls.

NeedSleep 01-03-2007 10:49 PM

How rediculous. Why the heck wouldn't she be straighforward about the changes??? Seems like loyal customers that reordered unknowingly would be pretty upset. I sure would be.

Kaia 01-03-2007 10:58 PM

Well great... I got my curls samples from sistasplace, and the samples are in small containers w/o ingredient listings. How the heck am I supposed to know which one I'm trying?? :? My CSC does smell like candy, so I guess it's the old one. No point trying to get it to work for me though, since it's pretty much discontinued. Now I see why NC.com stopped carrying Curls products... Who wants to deal with all this confusion?

laurabeth33 01-04-2007 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedSleep
How ridiculous. Why the heck wouldn't she be straighforward about the changes??? Seems like loyal customers that reordered unknowingly would be pretty upset. I sure would be.

I've gotten so I always check her site ingredients before getting something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bailey422
No point trying to get it to work for me though, since it's pretty much discontinued. Now I see why NC.com stopped carrying Curls products... Who wants to deal with all this confusion?

I've gotten frustrated a few times after working to get one of her products to work for me, only to have it change-up.

As for NC.com, since they're all about the most-awesome CS, I think it was wise of them to distance themselves since the products were available at curls.biz. CurlMart is great about offering the super-hard-to-get products (like Elucence), but, when something's easy to get elsewhere, I can see them being more selective in their offerings. :wink:

lushaholic 01-04-2007 10:06 AM

Honestly, there is just too much confusion in the products to make me want to use them. Not knowing what ingredients I'm putting in my hair or which ingredients list to go by, not to mention having to actually contact the owner just to try and get straight answers is too annoying for me. The only product I would really want to order is the CEAHT conditioner since I do love that one, but to have to order from a separate source for just one conditioner, and I do hate to have to pay separate shipping charges just for that. Oh well, life goes on. :lol:


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