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Old 06-22-2011, 10:29 AM   #1
 
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Default Stiff hair.... What causes it?

I have 2b hair and I'm sure on the properties :-/ my hair feels kinda stiff. How can I help this?
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:22 AM   #2
 
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Too much protein? Check your product labels for keratin or other proteins.
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Without knowing your hair properties and what products you use, it's hard to give you information that is "data" backed. It could be protein, especially if your hair is coarse. If your hair is fine, porous or damaged by heat and chemicals, it probably isn't protein. It could be other ingredients, especially if you use gels that contain chemicals.
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Without knowing your hair properties and what products you use, it's hard to give you information that is "data" backed. It could be protein, especially if your hair is coarse. If your hair is fine, porous or damaged by heat and chemicals, it probably isn't protein. It could be other ingredients, especially if you use gels that contain chemicals.
I don't have thin hair or really thick hair so I would say it "normal" porosity. I used to blow dry and straighten my hair every day so it might just be the damage :-/
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Without knowing your hair properties and what products you use, it's hard to give you information that is "data" backed. It could be protein, especially if your hair is coarse. If your hair is fine, porous or damaged by heat and chemicals, it probably isn't protein. It could be other ingredients, especially if you use gels that contain chemicals.
I don't have thin hair or really thick hair so I would say it "normal" porosity. I used to blow dry and straighten my hair every day so it might just be the damage :-/
I don't know what you're talking about. Texture has to do with how thick or thin each individual hair is on your head. Porosity has to do with how "tight" or healthy the cuticle is--it affects how your hair absorbs and releases moisture. If you have a lot of hair on your head--that's density.

Here's a post from CJ Marsha's blog that might help you with these concepts: Curl Junkie - Natural Hair Care for all types of Curly Hair!: My 2 cents on Protein/Texture/Porosity/Moisture Balance! :-)

She gives some visuals for texture and descriptors for the other qualities. If you're serious about your hair, you'll need to learn some of this terminology. It's the only way you'll understand what everyone is discussing. Otherwise, it's all another language and very frustrating for you and those who are trying to help you.

AND, it does get easier the longer you hang around.
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I'm sorry, I need to do more research!!!!! :-) thanks for your help!!!! I'm getting my hair cut Saturday, do you think my hair dresser would know any thong about properties?
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I would recommend going to curlywizard.com and getting a hair analysis if you can't figure out your hair properties. This will not have you guessing. Knowing your hair properties are key to the types of products to use and the help you can get here on the boards. I wish I would have had this info early on and I would not have wasted time and money trying different products.
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I'm sorry, I need to do more research!!!!! :-) thanks for your help!!!! I'm getting my hair cut Saturday, do you think my hair dresser would know any thong about properties?
No need to apologize, everyone has to start out sometime. It's just helpful for all involved if you know the terminology. Your stylist should be able to help you. If they don't seem confident--you can do curlwizard.com, as Marci Pie suggested.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:03 PM   #9
 
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Thank you so much!!!!! I need to read the sticky so I know all the term and appreviations.
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I'm sorry, I need to do more research!!!!! :-) thanks for your help!!!! I'm getting my hair cut Saturday, do you think my hair dresser would know any thong about properties?
Unless your stylist is a true curly specialist. She will have no clue! My stylist does the Deva Cut and has really no clue about product ingredients.

I use to use products like a crap shoot, then I learned my hair properties and my bad hair days are far and few between.
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You never know - your regular stylist might be able to tell you your hair's properties even without being a curly specialist. After I went CG but before I had my hair analysis done, I asked my old stylist (definitely not a curly expert, though willing to work with me to the best of her abilities) about my texture and porosity. She held up a strand, ran her fingertips up and down, and told me that I was between medium and coarse and had pretty normal porosity. A month or so later, I went ahead and did the hair analysis, and it turned out she was right. It doesn't hurt to ask!
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My stylist knew also. Just ask, what can it hurt

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Old 06-23-2011, 08:20 PM   #13
 
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I'm def going to ask!!! If she doesn't know I'm going to get a hair analysis.
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