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CurlyClaire 01-03-2007 08:19 AM

How do I get more volume? Do I need layers?
 
Hello Ladies and Happy New Year :D

My hair is completely flat on top and it's been driving me nuts. Lately, I've been taking two clips and sort of clipping the sides of my hair up to make it look like my hair has more volume. (I'm a 3a btw) This works okay most of the time but I feel like there should be an easier way. I've tried drying my hair upside down and it does help but seems to deflate a few hours later. I've tried doing the clips that are shown in the Ouidad video when I defuse but I just can't get them to work. Manual dexterity is obviously not my forte so I think the solution is to have layers cut. Right now my hair is all one length.

Is this the right thing to do or will it turn out to be a disaster? Do any of you have layers? Is there something else I can try?

Thanks in advance for your help!

medusahair 01-03-2007 08:25 AM

a few long layers definitely helps but, before you cut your hair there is more you can try.
I apply products upside down, you know bent over with my hair hanging. I apply a medium to harder hold gel, right up to the roots on top. I scrunch it in really well then take a paper towel and scrunch out the excess water so it doesn't weigh my hair down. Apply a tiny bit more gel to the ends where I just scrunched then flip upright.
I then use my fingers to lift my hair off my scalp on top if it needs it and make sure my gel is covered enough there to make my hair loop upward off my scalp. If I'm strictly air drying I use clips at the root, duck bill pointed inward toward the back of my hair so that the hair stays standing up at the roots.
If I'm diffusing at least partially I flip back over and diffuse the top of my hair first until the gel stiffens then go back upright to dry the rest.

Washing and conditioning upside down helps a lot too and makes for really nice clumping.

Some have luck with plopping. I don't personally but I know lots swear by it for curl on top and volume.

ETA: I forgot to mention the claw clips. You can put it on top on y our part and just let it grab up all the hair up there and leave it. You will get a peak in the middle but when you scrunch out the crunch on the rest of your hair it will all match nicely.

I think a harder hold gel might help. I do have layers though so not like I have super long layers.
Good luck!

LavenderCurls 01-03-2007 08:33 AM

For me, short layers on top definitely give me more volume as well as how my face looks on me. I'm trying to grow my hair out and have it angled (shorter in front, longer in back) and layered. I can't go with the long hair all over as it drags my face down. I usually wear bangs blown dry with a curl brush, so I keep my layers just on top shorter.

I don't plop as it just doesn't work for me. When my hair is almost dry, I take a big jaw clip, bend forward, gather my hair at the crown, put the clip in and kinda pull it just a bit. Gives me some volume when I take it down as well as helps with that Great Divide Crown Split I have going on at my crown :? .

SuZen 01-03-2007 08:37 AM

Unfortunatly, a flat top is characteristic of 3a hair, as I know from experience.


Plopping and clipping help my hair. Also, before I plop I loosen up the few inches of hair near my scalp with my fingers. My other suggestion would be to use a curl enhancer like Jessicurl Gelebration, in addition to your styling product, or a curl enhancing styler like AG Re:coil.

kjwavy 01-03-2007 09:37 AM

I have this problem, too :cry: I had been trying to grow my hair layers out, but the longer they got, the flatter my hair looked. I went ahead & cut some layers into it about a month ago, & it's done wonders for me :D

I also use Abba Weightless Gel every single day just in the top/front area (like medusahair does). I don't use clips, but I do slide my fingers against my scalp & hold the hair away from the scalp, & diffuse while slightly pulling the hair up (if this makes ANY sense at all), then I do like LavendarCurls with my bangs!!

I've been trying to grow out my old highlights (yikes - what a sight that is!!), & by cutting the layers again, it's getting those out quicker, plus with my long face, I need my hair to be fuller, esp at the sides.

benthudd 01-03-2007 10:17 AM

I have finally come to the conclusion that layers are the only way to go for me. Although I soooo wanted to grow out my layers like everyone suggests, I looked awful and my hair was a frizzy mess. I caved in and cut layers (the shortest comes to half-way down my ear) and my hair looks better all the time and I no longer have to use clips. I guess I don't have a very sophisticated look but this is really the only style that seems to work with my hair (other than a really short cut).

Bliss 01-03-2007 11:33 AM

Im having the same problem. I think my hair is a 2b with some 3a maybe thrown in.....the back is usually ok but the front and sides lie too flat. I have a cut scheduled tomorrow and Ill see what she suggests (right now my hair is between bsl and waist length). Im hoping I can do some layers or something around the front w/out loosing too much lenght overall

CurlyClaire 01-03-2007 11:39 AM

Thanks to all for your suggestions. I'll try them out and see if it works for me!


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