Does this sound like a product problem or something else?

For the last 1.5 weeks I've had problems with a big section of hair underneath in the back getting all matted and tangled. It actually started on my trip home for the holidays, but I've just developed this really large mass of hair that becomes all tangled together and grows if I don't wash it and try to start over. It looked like a birds nest and is completely underneath so you can't see it just by looking at my hair from the outside. I even got out the detangling comb and went to work when my hair was loaded with One C. I chose not to diffuse, in case that was causing it, and while my hair was good for the first day, it went right back to tangling in that area. When I rewashed the other day, I chose not to detangle with my comb because I could really tell that it pulled out curl last time, so I did the best I could with my fingers while my hair was absorbing Elucence. Yet here I am again with a big, soft mass of tangles underneath in the back. I'm still wearing my hair up in a pineapple when I sleep, although I am not currently using a satin pillowcase since I don't have one here.
The products I've been using in the last 1.5 weeks are Suave conditioners for co-washing, One C or Elucence for conditioning, HESMU or HETT for gels, Recoil, white Boots, and Fructis Soft Curl Cream once. Everything but the HE gels and Soft Curl Cream are regulars for me, and it's my first time trying the gels and cream since I'm just now getting my hands on them to try. But do any of them seem like they could be causing this, or could it really be the change in water or lack of satin pillow case? I know I'm usually tangle-prone, but not like this where I get a huge mass of it in one place.
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I had that going on for a while, then it went away but now it's back.
I cut my products down to things without protein, quats, even water soluble cones went but I still have it.
I started rinsing upside down and I've been diffusing are the only things I can think of that I'm still doing. I cut down my diffusing time and I make sure I don't diffuse that spot.

Now another weird thing I noticed. Product seems to get trapped there. So I assume my cuticles are open more?

I wish I knew what to tell you but since I switched to different products my hair is way curlier but that tangly spot at my nape on the underneath is still there. I think I might have to give up rinsing upside down to see if that's the culprit.

Sorry I wasn't more help hon
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
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Ok, so we're in the same boat then. The first knot I had the other day was so big that my nephew was horrified. Oh well, at least it's not visible since it's underneath. I went ahead and washed today anyway even though it was 3rd day hair I could get away with, but I thought conditioning again couldn't hurt. Plus it gave me a chance to try out the HE BE gel and TT mousse (thought I picked up the BE mousse but it was the TT). So far so good!
3a/2c f/mii. pics added 2/3/07
Did you use the gel and mousse together?

You know what maybe this is baby hairs? I was feeling my hair back there and the finer ones are the ones that are tangly. Most of my hair has gone pretty thick strands but the baby hairs are all fine. Not sure how that works but those are the tangled nape ones.

Anyhoo, I hope you like TT, it's nice to find something inexpensive that works!
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
may be a wierd question, but have you worn any sweaters, vests etc with a bulky collar in back? I was having some problem with tangles and realized it was the new vest I got...when I didnt wear for a few days it went away
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may be a wierd question, but have you worn any sweaters, vests etc with a bulky collar in back?
Originally Posted by SBackes
This is what I was thinking. Wool coats & thick sweaters wreak havok on my hair. LOTS of conditioner & not wearing thick, rough fabrics seems to help me. A satin pillow case in the winter is an absolute must for me too.
3a/b mix
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Good question. I don't know about Lush but it's still warm here,I'm still in shorts so I'm not wearing anything bulky. I'm in tshirts still.

What about you Lush?
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
Good question. I don't know about Lush but it's still warm here,I'm still in shorts so I'm not wearing anything bulky. I'm in tshirts still.

What about you Lush?
Originally Posted by medusahair
suuuuuure, rub it in LOL
Its actually not bad here today (high 40s and sunny) but due for rainy icky weather tomorrow---blech
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fine hair with botticelli curls according to my stylist
currently trialing devacurl low poo, one c and angell
I've been having this problem myself lately. My hair just didn't feel silky anymore. So, I used Activate Straightening Cream and the problem has gone away for now. I'm absolutely sure that I just needed a little of that amodimethicone in there. My hair has been defined and UNtangly in that area ever since.
I'm a 3b, with 3c underneath.

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I had actually thought about the clothing I had been wearing, but with the exception of my coat, everything else the last 1.5 weeks has been smooth cotton. My coat on the other hand, does have a high zip-up collar with a fur-trim hood, which *could* be causing it, but it doesn't seem like I would be wearing it long enough for it to tangle so badly? It's definitely a possible culprit though!
3a/2c f/mii. pics added 2/3/07

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