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tinabcurly 01-07-2007 05:40 PM

Mildew in my Hair?!-- Please Help!!
 
:cry: I'm beside myself right now :cry:
On Thursday night, I did an ACV rinse and an overnight DT & woke up Friday with what I think is mildew smelling hair. :shock:
I thought maybe I just didn't rinse all of the ACV out but, even after cowashing (2x) and conditioning Friday AM it smelled weird. When I rinsed on Sat, the smell came back. I washed with HCC today & it still smells when it's wet. Like a stinky towel. When it's dry, it smells fine.

Anyone else ever have this problem? What can I do?? I've been strict CG since 11/19 & love the results. Don't want to poo with sulfates but I will if I have to. Any advice is GREATLY appreciated.

Kurlee 01-07-2007 05:47 PM

I haven't had that problem myself but there was a thread about it a while back. Maybe it has some info/help.

http://www.naturallycurly.com/phpBB/...ghlight=mildew

CelticCurls 01-07-2007 08:48 PM

It's highly unlikely mildew could form after an ACV rinse -- the acidic nature of the vinegar actually kills off mildew. Could it be the towel itself you used....? Esp if your hair smells fine when dry.

RedCatWaves 01-08-2007 12:15 AM

I would wonder if it's your towel too. I have a microfiber towel that "went off". I think I get the stink out of it by washing it, but when it's wet and on my head, it stinks again. I'm going to give it a bleaching, and if that doesn't cure it, it's going in the trash.

tinabcurly 01-08-2007 09:33 AM

Nope, not the towel. I only use tshirts & they're not stinky. It was definitely the moist warm hair in a cap with a towel over it for 10 hours that mildewed me. Gross! I had rinsed it out the ACV before doing the DT- don't know if that makes a difference. Does ACV stop mildew?

I soaked it in baking soda & water for about 5 minutes this morning & it worked. Lucky try maybe? Would another ACV rinse done the same thing?

RCW--I'm obsessed with mildew towels. I hate them! I add a cup of ammonia in the washer (not with bleach at the same time), let them soak a bit and then wash- sometimes twice. It really works-- my grandmother was the laundry queen & told me this. Make sure the laundry room is ventilated or the fumes will knock you out!
(I was so desperate, I seriously thought about doing this to my hair & then realized I might kill myself & came to my senses)

SuZen 01-08-2007 10:56 AM

I really don't think it's possible to grow mildew in that short a time. But I have no idea what could be making your hair smell funny.

caysee 01-08-2007 11:03 AM

I am glad the baking soda worked for you. It will also work on your towels. I use it in my laundry to deodorize everything and you can safely use it with ammonia.

CelticCurls 01-08-2007 06:10 PM

Perhaps the interaction of ammonia residue in your T-shirt/towel mixed badly with the conditioner. FYI: ammonia is one of the strongest, most damaging respiratory irritants. Waaay more damaging to your lung & sinus tissue than mildew could ever be. I don't even allow it in my house. The fumes from leftover residue in textiles is enough to give me an asthma attack. If you really like using it, I'd consider at least setting your washer to the extra rinse cycle. But borax does the same thing, & is safe for skin, kids, your drains, & the waterways.

Kurlee 01-08-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CelticCurls
Perhaps the interaction of ammonia residue in your T-shirt/towel mixed badly with the conditioner. FYI: ammonia is one of the strongest, most damaging respiratory irritants. Waaay more damaging to your lung & sinus tissue than mildew could ever be. I don't even allow it in my house. The fumes from leftover residue in textiles is enough to give me an asthma attack. If you really like using it, I'd consider at least setting your washer to the extra rinse cycle. But borax does the same thing, & is safe for skin, kids, your drains, & the waterways.

Wow, that sounds bad. I don't use it myself but sometimes my mother in law uses it on the floors and it is hard to breathe I feel. I had no idea it was that strong.

So what is Borax? Never heard of that.

I have noticed some times that it can be hard to make towels smell fresh even after they are washed. I have started to wash them on hot and that has done the trick so far, actually better than when I used this bleached based powder.

HalfWavyHalfCurly 01-08-2007 08:30 PM

I have noticed that in the two different places where I've lived here mildew grows at different rates, and I wonder if it may be due to different water quality. I notice that if I leave anything soaking past a certain amount of time it gets that funky smell whereas where I lived before it took longer for that to happen. I think we're outside the city limits so maybe we get water from a different source now.

Mildew is a fungus so "technically" it's mold... Well, that's another great reason to use products with essential oils in them, especially tea tree, peppermint, geranium, lavender, lemon, bergamot & cinnamon. I did a search and found all of these cited in real scientific studies as having both antibacterial and fungicidal properties. I think it's much healthier for different reasons to at least partly diffuse before going to bed.

Borax is a mineral compound that removes hard deposits off clothing to help leave them cleaner, according to Wikipedia it's toxic in rather small concentrations (see here) but I guess the commercially sold one is safe. I think I saw borax at Wal-mart, "20 Mule Team" brand or something like that.

P.S. Vinegar kills both mold and mildew so it came from the water after the rinse.

CelticCurls 01-09-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HalfWavyHalfCurly

Borax is a mineral compound that removes hard deposits off clothing to help leave them cleaner, according to Wikipedia it's toxic in rather small concentrations (see here) but I guess the commercially sold one is safe. I think I saw borax at Wal-mart, "20 Mule Team" brand or something like that.

P.S. Vinegar kills both mold and mildew so it came from the water after the rinse.

Well, I'm certainly not advocating that anyone eat borax. :o 20 Mule Team Borax comes in a box & has been around since at least my grandma's day. It's considered very gentle & safe. You can wash baby clothes in it. It does lots of neat stuff, & unlike vinegar has no scent or fumes: it can substitute for abrasive scrubs like Comet for your tub; be added to your laundry as a non-toxic bleach alternative; it will retard mold growth (you simply have to leave it on longer than toxic stuff. I dilute it with water, spray it on shower tile & in toilet & let it sit overnight, then rinse it off.) Oh, & my favorite! It's great for flea issues. Yep, you sprinkle it on carpet, let sit about 20 min, then vacuum up. It works by dissolving the hard armor shell on the nasty things, without which they can't survive. But not toxic to the humans or pets.

I learned about the wonders of borax after I moved from a dry climate -- where mold & fleas are non-issues -- to the humid NW.

Kurlee 01-10-2007 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CelticCurls
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Originally Posted by HalfWavyHalfCurly

Borax is a mineral compound that removes hard deposits off clothing to help leave them cleaner, according to Wikipedia it's toxic in rather small concentrations (see here) but I guess the commercially sold one is safe. I think I saw borax at Wal-mart, "20 Mule Team" brand or something like that.

P.S. Vinegar kills both mold and mildew so it came from the water after the rinse.

Well, I'm certainly not advocating that anyone eat borax. :o 20 Mule Team Borax comes in a box & has been around since at least my grandma's day. It's considered very gentle & safe. You can wash baby clothes in it. It does lots of neat stuff, & unlike vinegar has no scent or fumes: it can substitute for abrasive scrubs like Comet for your tub; be added to your laundry as a non-toxic bleach alternative; it will retard mold growth (you simply have to leave it on longer than toxic stuff. I dilute it with water, spray it on shower tile & in toilet & let it sit overnight, then rinse it off.) Oh, & my favorite! It's great for flea issues. Yep, you sprinkle it on carpet, let sit about 20 min, then vacuum up. It works by dissolving the hard armor shell on the nasty things, without which they can't survive. But not toxic to the humans or pets.

I learned about the wonders of borax after I moved from a dry climate -- where mold & fleas are non-issues -- to the humid NW.

Sounds good. I am not fond of strong chemicals so I am gonna see if I can find Borax in the store. Thanks!

HalfWavyHalfCurly 01-10-2007 11:59 PM

Celtic Curls:

I know you were not telling anyone to eat borax (but eating is not the only way something can hurt us, a lot of substances get into our bodies through our skin). But I was typing as I read, right after that I did mention that the commercially concentrations sold to the public must be safe.

tinabcurly 01-11-2007 10:12 AM

Wow-- lots of great info!! Thanks!!

Vinegar kills mold/mildew... good to know if it happens again. What would Borax do in your hair?

BTW--I don't use ammonia regularly. Twice a year max on mildewed towels & I ventilate well. The way I see it, 2C of ammonia a year into our septic tank has less environment impact than 30 towels going into the landfill or the water/detergent waste that Borax requires from multiple washes (& it doesn't always work to get the mildew smell out)

bostonwaves 01-11-2007 11:03 AM

I guess this is a kind of a guano but here I go anyway.

I pratice "green" house cleaning. It's a concept by Annie Bond touting "natural solutions for you and your planet" The web site is http://www.care2.com/healthyliving/. They also have a section on personal care that you may be able to find out ways to stop the mildew in your hair, with natural products. Just do a search

Shows you the many, many cleaning uses (personal and home) for borax, baking soda, vinegar, essential oils.

CelticCurls 01-11-2007 12:09 PM

Awesome, bostonwaves, thank you! I love that site, but haven't been there for awhile.

Halfwavy: yes, that was my point exactly. Lots of folks don't realize that the cleaning products are often more harmful than whatever they're trying to clean. Bleach & ammonia are kind of like using a bazooka to eradicate a mosquito. I didn't used to give it much thought either, but having asthma gives you an instant education. Borax is extremely non-toxic and it's potential to be a skin/respiratory irritant is far, far less than essential oils (which are wonderful, when carefully chosen & properly diluted.)

Anyway, my advice to anyone concerned about this is just to use common sense: if something has fumes -- be it a natural product (even Simple Green aggravates my asthma, it's so intense) or otherwise -- use caution.

Kurlee 01-11-2007 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonwaves
I guess this is a kind of a guano but here I go anyway.

I pratice "green" house cleaning. It's a concept by Annie Bond touting "natural solutions for you and your planet" The web site is http://www.care2.com/healthyliving/. They also have a section on personal care that you may be able to find out ways to stop the mildew in your hair, with natural products. Just do a search

Shows you the many, many cleaning uses (personal and home) for borax, baking soda, vinegar, essential oils.

Thanks for that link. I am all for that stuff too. :)

Kurlee 01-11-2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CelticCurls
Awesome, bostonwaves, thank you! I love that site, but haven't been there for awhile.

Halfwavy: yes, that was my point exactly. Lots of folks don't realize that the cleaning products are often more harmful than whatever they're trying to clean. Bleach & ammonia are kind of like using a bazooka to eradicate a mosquito. I didn't used to give it much thought either, but having asthma gives you an instant education. Borax is extremely non-toxic and it's potential to be a skin/respiratory irritant is far, far less than essential oils (which are wonderful, when carefully chosen & properly diluted.)

Anyway, my advice to anyone concerned about this is just to use common sense: if something has fumes -- be it a natural product (even Simple Green aggravates my asthma, it's so intense) or otherwise -- use caution.

I have big problems with smells too. I don't have asthma thankfully. So what do you use for cleaning around the house? Borax?
I have had a hard time finding "kind" stuff here. (I guess I should look at that link/page but it would still be interesting to hear what you use.)

HalfWavyHalfCurly 01-11-2007 06:41 PM

Hey "boston", thanks for sharing that site, I didn't know it. I've thought many times of using natural cleaners around the house but I've heard other people say they are really not effective for certain things and somehow it's just easier to pick up the usual stuff when I go out. I need to hear other opinions and recommendations because for different reasons I know I should not buy any more ordinary cleaners.

I'm also bothered by smells (I have allergies...) so I avoid using strong stuff most of the time. I had a problem with musty smells coming from the a/c vents, that worried me because of my allergy to mold but, thankfully, I heard of a website that sells a couple of product for that specific purpose. One is a spray that kills mold and mildew, by the way, and it's a Godsend here in S. FL. Just recently, together with "Damp-Rid" it saved the inside of my car from getting moldy after a lot of water got in it.

bostonwaves 01-12-2007 07:53 AM

I use baking soda or vinegar to clean almost everything (not together). Other ingrediants are essential oils, washing soda, borax.

I also make sprays from water and different oils - tea tree for mold and mildew in the shower- lavendar oil for general bathroom cleaning, lemon oil for wood.

There are tons of recipes out there. Start at the web site above, but you can goggle search green cleaning for other recipes.

Glad to hear there is an interest in the environment and health out there!
Way to go curly girls! 8)


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