What does "mushy hair" mean?

Hi! I'm really fairly new. I don't know how I got such a wonky join date, but if you check my number of posts, that tells the tale! lol!

Anywayz, the mushy hair thing really has my attention because I have fine hair and I have always been concerned about overconditioning since I use my regular conditioner as a leave-in. Last I checked, over-conditioning can cause mushy hair, right? But fine hair needs a lot of protein so where is the line? How will I know if I'm getting too much (or too little) protein before I get to the "mushy hair state"? When I was a permie, I always knew when I was lacking protein because my hair went limp and lifeless and wouldn't hold a curl if I bribed it. And what's hydral fatigue? If it's what it sounds like, I'm in trouble!

Sorry for all the questions.

~angelcurls
My Fotki



Type: 3b/c
Texture: Fine; Porosity: Normal
Co-Wash: HE Hello Hydration-daily
DT: Moroccan Oil Intense Hydrating Mask and Restorative Hair Mask- alternating weekly
LI: Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut or Juicy Green Apple
Hi! I'm really fairly new. I don't know how I got such a wonky join date, but if you check my number of posts, that tells the tale! lol!

Anywayz, the mushy hair thing really has my attention because I have fine hair and I have always been concerned about overconditioning since I use my regular conditioner as a leave-in. Last I checked, over-conditioning can cause mushy hair, right? But fine hair needs a lot of protein so where is the line? How will I know if I'm getting too much (or too little) protein before I get to the "mushy hair state"? When I was a permie, I always knew when I was lacking protein because my hair went limp and lifeless and wouldn't hold a curl if I bribed it. And what's hydral fatigue? If it's what it sounds like, I'm in trouble!

Sorry for all the questions.
Originally Posted by angelcurls
It seems it always boils down to finding the right balance for your hair -- conditioned but not over-conditioned; protein but not too much protein, etc. My hope is to figure out what my hair needs from me well enough that caring for it properly becomes easier and easier and with less concern about unfavorable side effects.

If I'm understanding hydral fatigue correctly, it's when water overly stresses the cuticles on your hair (from too much repeated wetting down then drying out) over time and get worn off/broken off from the hair shaft. Again, I imagine if you've got the right balance of wetting down and drying out, then hydral fatigue is something you don't have to worry about. But also, maybe it's brought up on curly hair blogs and articles because it's just something that's more of a problem for curlies than people with straight hair.

Here's an "official" explanation of hydral fatigue I found at this link Mineral Oil Versus Coconut Oil: Which is better?: "Hair is a highly complex biomaterial composed of layers of differing materials, ranging from varying types of keratin structures to pigment molecules to fatty acids. When it is saturated with water and swells and then subsequently dries via natural or thermal means, it undergoes what is known as differential drying and differential deformation (because each separate type of molecule within the overall structure dries and deforms at differing rates). This leads to moisture-induced stress on the hair, which can lead to delamination (cuticle layer stripping off), breakage, fiber fatigue, and rupture (split ends). This whole phenomenon is referred to as hygral fatigue. So, anything that reduces hygral fatigue is great for the health of your hair in the long term."
3b / Fine / Low (to Med) Density / Normal Porosity & Elasticity

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Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / *BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!): KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: *DM Super Buttercreme*

Goal: APL Hair
Thank you for that explanation! I'm going to have to do some research into the causes of hydral fatigue because I wet my hair every day either through a plain water rinse or a co-wash. One thing I've noticed about my hair is that it seems to love water. I don't need to use a lot of products. Just add water and my curls just spring right back to life. I get great 2nd and even 3rd day hair from just a spritz of distilled water. But I still love to rinse in the shower every morning since I get such great results.

I don't know if I'll be able to keep that up once my hair is longer, but for now, it works!

~angelcurls
My Fotki



Type: 3b/c
Texture: Fine; Porosity: Normal
Co-Wash: HE Hello Hydration-daily
DT: Moroccan Oil Intense Hydrating Mask and Restorative Hair Mask- alternating weekly
LI: Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut or Juicy Green Apple

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