What does "mushy hair" mean?

A few times now I've come across the term "mushy" being used to describe some apparently bad state of someone's hair. I don't at all get what that term can possibly mean in reference to hair -- What does someone's hair look and feel like when it's "mushy", and what improper haircare causes "mushy hair" in the first place?

TIA for enlightening me.
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idk really.. I never really used that term before, but my guess is undefined/flat hair. Or maybe hair that is smooshed. lol I'm sure everyone has their own way of defining what "mushy" hair means.
I'm assuming mushy hair means it's too soft or literally "mushy." I think it's one of those "you'll know what it's like when you get it" type of things. I guess you could compare it to overcooked pasta. It's too soft and almost squishy. When hair is mushy, it's most likely over conditioned. This can be fixed with a good shot of protein and staying away from heavy moisture for a few days. HTH!
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Great question! I have no idea...

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What's strange is that it really seems like it's used as one of these known pieces of hair jargon because I've seen it used on hair blogs and even on this forum. Kind of as if in a situation where people were talking about curly hair, and one person used the acronym 'sotc'; everyone would know what that meant. But with the term "mushy", I feel like the outsider who can't keep up. I've seen it used in threads/posts about moisturizing, conditioning, hydral fatigue, and even protein.

But oh well. Not understanding what they're talking about as far as that one term goes won't stop me from continuing to study up on curly hair care.
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I would say it means you need an emergency protein treatment, pronto!

I've seen mushy hair before.. the hair on your legs when you've used Nair. lol

I've actually had overmoisturized hair and it feels like it has no real body left in it.. the curl is limp and it's over-soft and lies there like a wet rag. Cured it with a lot of protein for a couple of weeks.
moisture overload is definitely what makes hair mushy, I should know it's my current hair woe Taking out locs and adding moisture moisture moisture then getting it straightened from a stylist who doesn't ask your hair history?? not the move. I'm just as at fault as he is smh. Let the months of protein treatments commence.

Yea my first post Yippee!!!lol
Yay for your first post, LoveLee!!

My hair is "mushy" if I have too much LI in, or too much oil. I can say my first botched EVOO treatment ended up with "mushy" hair. (not to mention flat, lifeless, and greasy, with a constant feeling of being damp even when it wasn't. LOL!)

But I'm sure it's a little different for everyone.
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moisture overload is definitely what makes hair mushy, I should know it's my current hair woe Taking out locs and adding moisture moisture moisture then getting it straightened from a stylist who doesn't ask your hair history?? not the move. I'm just as at fault as he is smh. Let the months of protein treatments commence.

Yea my first post Yippee!!!lol
Originally Posted by LoveLee
Oh, wow! Sorry all of that happened. Hope that the protein treatments go really well for you and that your hair is back to its full, natural glory much faster than you anticipate.

Then mushy hair is more serious than I thought it sounds like. Is mushy hair the result of an actual structural change in the hair I wonder. Does it actually feel to the touch like there's a problem (i.e. a more involved problem than a "The last time I washed my hair, I accidentally used a shampoo with sulfates when I didn't mean to." kind of problem)

The whole 'mushy' idea is new to me because I'm constantly trying to get/keep my hair moisturized. At this point over-moisturized seems like an impossibility. But I'm happy I'm learning more about curly hair care so that I have some idea what to be wary of.

Btw, congrats on your first post!!
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I think once you have experienced it, you'll understand. It's literally mushy. Idk any other way to describe it. It's the result of over conditioning. The hair is too soft. I used to experience it when I was relaxed and frequently dc'ing overnight. I didn't know what was wrong until my stylist at the time explained it to me.

Edit: also, the mushy feeling occurs when the hair is wet.

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Last edited by A. Love; 09-13-2011 at 12:00 AM.
I think once you have experienced it, you'll understand. It's literally mushy. Idk any other way to describe it. It's the result of over conditioning. The hair is too soft. I used to experience it when I was relaxed and frequently dc'ing overnight. I didn't know what was wrong until my stylist at the time explained it to me.

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Originally Posted by A. Love
So what changes did you make to your haircare routine to make sure your hair doesn't go mushy again?

I just did my first oil pre-poo and really liked it. I've also done oil rinses, dt, pt, and am looking into how to seal my hair after washing it. -- But I never ever planned to do all of those processes at the same time of course. Instinct or whatever told me that perhaps a rotation of processes based on what my hair is telling me it needs at any given time would be good. And then of course there might be some stuff that I just drop from my routine if I don't see that it's helping my hair based on my hair properties.
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I started going to my stylist regularly because at the time, I knew nothing about hair. She did protein treatments every two weeks until my hair was healthier. Then reduced it to once a month. I stopped dc'ing overnight and just did it for the recommended amount of time. I also used the products she recommended (Aveda), which were the same ones she used on me at the salon.

Since I've stopped relaxing, I have yet to have the mushy feel though. I can dc overnight with no problem now. I also have a better understanding of my own hair so I know which products to use depending on how my hair feels.

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Maybe a stupid question but is mushy hair bad? Its being described as just overly soft so im just curious.
With my hair in that condition, it was extremely weak and broke easily. I'd say yes.

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Detangle: V05 or Suave Naturals
RO: Tigi MM,
Treatments: CJCR, SM Scalp Elixir
LI: any LI+oil+aloe juice
Moisturizers: QBAOHC, SMCES, SMH&SMM
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Yeah. Everytime I came across the term on a blog or forum thread, it was clearly referred to as a bad thing that you *definitely* wanted to avoid getting. If a curly said she had mushy hair, the focus of the thread was all about getting that situation corrected.
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Currently Using [*Holy Grails*]
Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / *BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!): KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: *DM Super Buttercreme*

Goal: APL Hair
Interesting, I remember my hair being that way a few years ago before I had my son. I wonder how it gets that way? Can over coloring have anything to do with it ? I used to color my hair every few weeks.
Interesting, I remember my hair being that way a few years ago before I had my son. I wonder how it gets that way? Can over coloring have anything to do with it ? I used to color my hair every few weeks.
Originally Posted by curlykristx
Idk. I'm know that I've seen it mentioned in connection with over-conditioning and hydral fatigue, but perhaps depending on whatever process of coloring is routinely used, then over time mushy hair could be brought on by that, too. But of course I'm just guessing.
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Currently Using [*Holy Grails*]
Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / *BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!): KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: *DM Super Buttercreme*

Goal: APL Hair
Interesting, I remember my hair being that way a few years ago before I had my son. I wonder how it gets that way? Can over coloring have anything to do with it ? I used to color my hair every few weeks.
Originally Posted by curlykristx
For me, coloring had nothing to do with it. I've been coloring my hair regularly for about 15 yrs and never had mushy hair. Then I decided to jump on the henna/indigo/cassia bandwagon and my hair did not appreciate it. Prior to that disaster I used a lot of products with protein and did protein treatments on a regular basis. My hair was desperately dry from the cassia and indigo I completely eliminated protein from my hair diet. After sometime with no protein my hair started feeling mushy. I remember thinking "So THIS is what people mean!" It really is one of those things that you instantly understand if it happens to you because before I experienced it myself, I couldn't grasp the concept of mushy hair. Anywho, my hair was overconditioned and I started using products with protein again and all was well.

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I'm not sure how my hair became mushy either. I've always been natural so itwasn't from any chemicals or anything. It was only a month after I combed mylocs out that I had it straightened. Guess my hair needed a bit more time torest. After doing the Aphogee 2step treatment a few days ago I need to wait foranother huge batch of protein but their keratin and green tea restructurizerisn't half bad. The "mushyness" brought on shedding and breaking to the touch. .:yikes:. That's so far, its only been a few days so the jury is still out on that one. Stilllearning my hair figuring out its porosity. Hoping I can get my wash & go's back.

Thanks for the welcome
Wow. Fortunately, I've been fairly consistent with weekly PTs, but it was prompted by other concerns, not concern about mushy hair. (Am I wrong, or isn't tangling also among the indications of a need for protein.) If I hadn't by chance kept coming across the term "mushy" when reading up on curly haircare, I would have never know that lack of protein could cause anything like that -- And if I'd ever just dropped the PTs, I would have totally freaked if one day in the shower my hair felt mushy.

I'm really happy for anyone who's ever experienced it, that there's a way to correct it.
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Currently Using [*Holy Grails*]
Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / *BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!): KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: *DM Super Buttercreme*

Goal: APL Hair

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