CG Method causing hair loss?

I'm not trying to start a fight here. But I've done some research on the Internet and there are people on hair loss boards and other hair boards who tried the CG method-washing with conditioner-for about a year and had to stop because of the excessive hair loss. Some of them developed sores on their heads or fungus infections on their scalps.

As a person who has a problem with thinning hair, I am concerned about hair loss using the CG method. I have discovered that if I go more than two days without washing my hair, when I do wash it, my hair comes out in handfuls. My dermatologist told me that 200 to 400 (!) hairs per day is normal and not to worry. But I can see that my hair is thinning. I take lots of meds for lots of different conditions, so that could be the reason.

Have any of you heard of problems with hair loss from the CG method?
Armpit length (dry), middle of back wet, 2c/3a, fine, porous, color-over-gray, normal elasticity. Trying so hard to grow it out.
CG since June 2011 and loving it so far.
Product Junkie-love anything CJ. Used to love KT and KCCC, but lately doing nothing for my hair but flattening it.
Am experimenting with products to see what works for me. Seems like I get different results every day even if I use the same products!
With the CG method, you do need much more friction to cleanse the scalp than you do using sulfates. Not using enough friction while co-washing could cause follicle clogging build up on the scalp which could lead to hair loss. This includes friction while rinsing to get the co-wash to rinse clean.
If you are concerned about this, using a low-poo or even a sulfate wash along with co-washing would eliminate any build up. Baking soda scalp scrubs are also popular for this.
Your doctor is right, btw. With straight hair, these hairs slip out during the course if the day and isn't as noticeable. With curly or wavy hair, we don't typically comb and brush outside of the shower, and the texture holds the shed hairs until you do wash and comb. So while it is the same amount of hairs lost per day, the amount stays stuck in the hair until it is combed out when you wash and seems like more. If you wash everyday you notice the 200 strands daily and it seems like less. Wait 2 days and you see double that when you wash, 3 days - triple etc.
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I've heard a lot about Wen causing hair loss -- the QVC boards are full of customers who complain about it. Evidently one of the ingredients in most of the Wen formulations is menthol, which a lot of folks have had adverse reactions to.
Tone is hard to convey in posts. I don't mean this to sound combative. I'll post some tweety birds and bunnies to show I'm friendly.

I don't have any medical background or anything to back up my ideas, but this is my take. Shampoo wasn't invented until the 30's. Sulfate shampoo was invented around the 50's or 60's. Clearly we can live without either. Before the 30's they used castile soap. Before that IDK.
There are a group of people on the Long Hair Community that use water only method (no shampoo, no conditioner). It has been over a year since I read this link, but I believe they only start to worry about hair loss from clogged hair follicles after about a year.
(Official) Water Only Thread - The Long Hair Community Discussion Boards
It is my personal opinion that most of the hair loss stuff is from people noticing how much hair they loose that they didn't have to remove manually. Or people have hair that is thinning from other medical conditions that would thin CG or no CG. I believe it to be unlikely any hair product would cause hair loss (other then a perm, hair color, etc. gone horribly wrong). Like I said, this is mostly just my opinion, because I have no scientific background to look into it.

ETA: If it worries you, just use and occasional low poo. Then you won't have to worry.
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Last edited by pedaheh; 09-16-2011 at 12:29 PM.
On livecurlylivefree.com (either the website itself or the ebook), she has a full discussion about this. She says something like when she's seen clogged hair follicles whether on people who use sulfate shampoos or people who no-poo, it basically all boils down to how they aren't massaging their scalp properly when washing it to actually get it clean and massage the oil glands. In either case (sulfate or no-poo), the clogged follicles do set up the risk of hair loss -- but it's because of the "how" not the "what" was used to wash.

And it's a good point that pedaheh brings up about the invention of shampoos. No-pooing/low-pooing to one degree or another existed long before Lorraine Massey formalized the cg method, and our great-grandmothers weren't going bald back in their day.

Btw, I like the tweeties and bunnies! And since I'm also a nice per and am adding my comment only to be helpful, I'll add a bunch here!
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I would look into the medication side effects before I blamed CG. I don't know what medication you take, but thyroid issues can cause hair loss (I know this from personal experience) and another medication I take (Elmiron) also has hair loss listed as a side effect. You may want to research some of the medications you take. It doesn't make it better, it just helps you understand.
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Yes, i have heard of people complaing of hair loss due to cg. Myself included. Not necessarily the curly girl method, but specifically cowashing--rubbing conditioner into the scalp. Yeah, i don't co wash anymore. I don't believe it cleans my scalp. I believe conditioners leave something behind, which is part of their function, and i believe that my scalp suffered from that.
Lanisha,

I feel the same about co-washing as you-worried it doesn't clean my scalp and that all that rubbing is too much for my hair. I have thinning hair anyway, so . . . I bought a botanical "shampoo" and conditioner that is completely CG, so I'm hoping that works on the days I don't use Curl Junkie.

Thanks to everyone for the replies.
Armpit length (dry), middle of back wet, 2c/3a, fine, porous, color-over-gray, normal elasticity. Trying so hard to grow it out.
CG since June 2011 and loving it so far.
Product Junkie-love anything CJ. Used to love KT and KCCC, but lately doing nothing for my hair but flattening it.
Am experimenting with products to see what works for me. Seems like I get different results every day even if I use the same products!

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