'Let's start from the very beginning....'

Any Sound of Music fans will now have a certain song in their head (sorry I couldn't resist ). Anyway, I didn't really pay too much attention to all the Garnier Fructis conditioner threads before since the stores in Sweden only carry the regular ones and not any of the S&S or C&S and certainly not any of the leave-ins,etc. But now that I have access to them for the time being, I'm trying to go through the threads and decipher all the madness, but I'm only confusing myself. I went ahead and bought the C&S rinse-out and the leave-in today because I couldn't remember whether it or the S&S was better. So, for those of you who use any of these, do you use the rinse-out with the leave-in, or do any of you use just one or the other and not both? Has anyone experienced build-up, and if so, how long before you noticed it? Or was it just a great thing in the beginning but lost its 'oomph' after a while? Can you tell I'm losing my mind with all the choices?? Between these, all the HE gels, and trying to decide if I should buy the Regis Olive Oil condish, the B2B P&P condish, and the Joiwhip, well, you get the picture.
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I use only the C&S leave-in. I also tried the S&S leave-in, and I found it to be heavier and not as curl enhancing. I don't notice build-up, but I shampoo with EMBS every 3-4 days. I have not tried the rinse outs, but I know medusahair and celtic curls love them.
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I have no relevant info, but it's nice to see you back on the boards!
I'll help out: **cracking knuckles**

Ok---I have used the GF Curl something Conditioner--rinse out. Hated it. LEft my hair fluffy and undefined.

I have used, consistently, the GF Sleek n Shine LEave In Conditioner....I have not used the rinse out. I love the Leave In. For my thick, below shoulder length hair, I use the size of a dime in wet hair. I don't get buildup because I shampoo (or cleanse) my hair 2x per week. It is a Holy Grail for me.
2C/3A auburn hair.
between shoulders and BSL
I'll help out: **cracking knuckles**
Originally Posted by miacurl
You are too hilarious! Ok, I see I'm going to have to purchase the S&S versions as well, if nothing else but to compare. Today I used the C&S rinse-out after co-washing with Suave Peach & Mango, but I had to use no less than 5 handfuls of the C&S to get any decent detangling. I made sure I rinsed it all out and then I use about a nickel size of the C&S leave-in before scrunching and using my usual Recoil but with Aura over the top. I did everything else the same. Granted my hair is still damp, I'm not pleased with the way my hair is looking right now. It's a bit limp and the curls seem really piecey or slightly stringy. So I don't know if it was the rinse-out or the leave-in, or both. Or perhaps the Aura?

So I think I might try the S&S for more moisture. Interesting that neither of you use the rinse-outs but like the opposite leave-ins. Thanks for all the feedback so far! And thanks for missing me Eilonwy!
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S&S has more moisture. I think more people use just the leave in as opposed to the rinse outs.
The A cone is high on the list and that doesnt' bother some but be aware of it since you don't usually shampoo.

Dammit even lush has suave peach and mango!
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
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If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
well, my bottle of peach & mango is a year old from before I moved, so it was waiting here for me when i got back. I'm definitely not using the rinse-out again and I don't know if i have the courage to try the leave-in again either since i don't know which one caused me hair to look like this, but i don't like it!!!!! It looks and feels yucky imo. Too bad I already threw my wal-mart receipt away.
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I love how the woman on the GF curl and shine commercial has straight hair that's been curled!! And hasn't whoever did her hair heard of clipping???? Flat top much?
3B, normal porosity, med to coarse texture
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Lush, I was thinking about you the other day and here you are all over the place again (insert dancing icon) !

I've used both the S&S conditioner (is this the rinse-out you're refering to?) and C&S with the matching leave-in conditioning cremes.

Despite the fact I love the ... ahem, purple on the C&S bottles ... I think I prefer the S&S. The C&S seems thicker and for my hair, that means more producty. The curl factor seems to be the same with either one, though.

The thread I had last week about leaving all the conditioner in was using the C&S - my hair seems to drink it up and I need way more of it than the S&S.

Heck, they're cheap to try them all !
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Any Sound of Music fans will now have a certain song in their head (sorry I couldn't resist ).
Originally Posted by lushaholic
Now it will take me at least three days to get this out of my head...

I liked the C&S leave-in a lot. I even tried going productless with it, and the results, although not great, were not nearly as bad as I anticipated. I tried it under the La Bella green gel too.
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I use and love the C&S leave-in. I haven't bothered trying either of the rinse-outs because I doubt a drugstore conditioner would be enough for me.

I use a pretty decent amount of the C&S leave-in, maybe 2-3 quarter sized blobs. I use it under any styling products, and I've used it by itself with decent results too. Pictures here. I'll definitely repurchase!
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Mama to two wild superheroes and a curly-headed baby boy
I love your hair in those pics PixieCurl!
I think more like the leave in's
2c/3a?
Low porosity, medium texture.
http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
Thanks medusahair

And lush - I forgot to post this before, but I don't find that I get buildup at all with the C&S leave-in. I wash with Curlicious Curls around once every two weeks.
Faith, 3Aish redhead
Mama to two wild superheroes and a curly-headed baby boy
Thanks for the feedback Pixie! Good to know another curlie whose opinion I trust is liking this stuff. I definitely had a bad hair day from the combo, but maybe it was the rinse-out. So bad that I couldn't wait to wash after working out tonight, even though I washed this morning. My hair just felt and looked coated and yucky all day. But I'm definitely going to give the leave-in another try anyway!

Katethegreat, sorry.
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Hi Lush, so you're in the States now??? Welcome "home"!

I'm sure you won't want me to involve your Suave Peach & Mango but since you washed with it and IMO Suave COs are main trouble-makers (read build-up causers...), maybe it was the combination of the three that did this. When my hair was longer, I once used a GF rinse-out CO and found it very detangling on its own whereas different Suave COs left me "in the cold", so if you had to use that much after the Suave that to me points as Suave being the culprit. So before you decide against the GF combo, clarify and try again without the Suave and see if goes better.

PixieCurl:

Gorgeous curls and color!
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

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I cant use Suave either I get build up and my hair doesnt usually get build up. I use the S&S leave in I only use a dime size amount on the ends of my hair. I have been thinking about trying the C&S but have been making myself use up the other first since Im having good luck with it. I use to use the rinse out and never had a problem with it I just changed because the product junkie in me needed a fix...lol
Thanks HWHC! It seemed like it took me forever to grow out all the old color (I used to lighten it a lot) but it's finally all natural
Faith, 3Aish redhead
Mama to two wild superheroes and a curly-headed baby boy
I was hoping it was your natural color, it really suits you. You can honestly be very proud of having those beautiful natural red curls, I bet that when you go out people just turn their heads to look at you! If I were you I'd never put color in them again. And if you ever get really, really bored just do subtle highlights so you can keep it healthy like it looks now.
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
HWHC, you've got me blushing

My plan is to not ever color it again, or at least for a long long time. My husband LOVES my red hair and pouts every time I even briefly mention coloring it again. Plus I always remind myself how long it took to grow out the old color. But you're right - if I ever get really really bored, I'd probably just do highlights.
Faith, 3Aish redhead
Mama to two wild superheroes and a curly-headed baby boy

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