Hard water - soft water

Hi everyone!

So where I live we have pretty hard water and I just found out how to properly deal with curly hear about 2 years ago. Recently I'm really liking a Garnier conditioner that's especially made to not get lime and stuff in your hair (it's new and it sells pretty well around here lol).
In a few weeks (one week, probably) I will be moving to a city far north, and I've been there before so I now they have really soft water. Actually this should be rather good for hair, but since my hair is so fine it gets weighed down and the curls will become stringy easily (that's what happened when I was there and just used my regular products ). So I usually have to balance out protein and glycerin.

Now my question is: do you have any "recommendations" what type of products to use with soft water; probably more protein, or in general less conditioning/softening stuff? Did a "water change" change anything about your curls?

Haha this soft water is really new to me, since I've always lived in a region where the water is full of lime...

Thanks
German Curlie
2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
Loved yarn braids!!!

Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

No silicones!
Recently using:
Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




<3 Music <3
I can't really say on what products to use, other than I would think you'd need a little less! And yes, probably up the protein a little. Maybe just PT's?

we have hard water around here, too. Recently I visited my parents, and though they have hard water, they have a softener. Let me tell you - my hair was so happy. HAHA! I'd forgotten how much nicer it is without all the lime and stuff!

You'll probably go through a short adjustment period where you rebalance how much you condition, etc.

Good luck! We are buying a house soon, and I am SO puting a softener in it! LOL!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
We are buying a house soon, and I am SO puting a softener in it! LOL!
Originally Posted by Jas76

Hahahaha
So your hair started looking better/was softer/shinier with soft water? No weird stringy mess or change in curl pattern?
German Curlie
2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
Loved yarn braids!!!

Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

No silicones!
Recently using:
Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




<3 Music <3
Anytime I go somewhere new, I'm always holding my breath to see how my hair is going to respond. Generally, though, in soft water it does well. I can see how you might have a problem if you are "over-conditioning" to compensate for hard water and then switch over to soft.

So no, I don't have a problem, but I might if I were to shower in it for several days. There are usually a shower or two tops. A week might yield differet results!

I can see how you might have an adjustment period to go through, but I would guess in the end it will turn out better!

Do you do do ACV rinses? I find that helps with the hard water build-up. So maybe you can try that before you move to prepare!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Oh my seems like I have to figure out a whole new routine/products I use when I've moved Haha the people I will be living with will be excited...

I've never tried an ACV rinse, but now I might, thanks!

I'm really afraid that my hair will go all fluffy and overly soft and no pretty curls since it is so fine and even here I have trouble with overconditioning sometimes...:/

Well, I guess I have to see when I'm finally at my new place...:S
German Curlie
2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
Loved yarn braids!!!

Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

No silicones!
Recently using:
Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




<3 Music <3
No, I don't think it'll be that dramatic. I think maybe you could condition less, do some PT's, and that would be about it!

And you never know - after a week, your hair may "adjust" and you might not have to change much at all.

So I wouldn't worry too much! I'm sure you can use all the same stuff, you just might have to back off on how often/much you condish, and do some PT's.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
ive just moved to where a place where i got hard water, when i only really knew soft water.... and i think its got somthing to do with my hair change,it seems to make my hair fuller.... and bigger if that makes sense? i was just thinking bout it and wondering if the water had somthing to do with it?

my hair: 3c, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
my hair loves conditioner only styling!
my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.

I also blog about my hair journey, please feel free to read and comment/ask questions http://www.naturallycurly.com/blogs/...air-blogs/2494
ive just moved to where a place where i got hard water, when i only really knew soft water.... and i think its got somthing to do with my hair change,it seems to make my hair fuller.... and bigger if that makes sense? i was just thinking bout it and wondering if the water had somthing to do with it?
Originally Posted by Fmasuhr
I'm taking a trip up north this summer (started a thread about it) and never thought about the water. I guess I've always been around soft water. My husband jut informed me that the water where we are going has a lot of calcium in it. Great. Another thing to think about. Not to mention the really dry climate.
CG as of Feb. 2012
combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
I have super fine wavy hair and soft water and I often battle OCing and flatness. I have to clarify 1-2x week (I use KC Come Clean or a diluted sulfate poo) since the water doesn't seem to get all the stuff out regardless of how long I rinse. I rotate lo-poo, clarifyer, and co-washing depending on how my hair feels that morning or was acting the day before. I use light conditioners. The one's that most people use to co-wash, I can use to condition, although I also use some that are more conditioning, but have lots of protein to balance that out. I hardly ever have to do a DT and do a weekly PT. I make sure to rinse as thoroughly as possible. I bet water washing would work great with soft water, but I need the slip to prevent tangles/breakage. I almost wish we had hard water for the added volume, but I guess soft is supposed to be better for skin and hair, so it's a trade off. HTH!
FIA: 2b-c/f/i, normal porosity/elasticity I think?

Current favs:
lo-poo: Giovanni
Co-Wash: V05 Kiwi Lime
RO: CJ Beauticurls,
LI: Ouidad Botanical Boost
PT/DT: Emergencee, Biolage Condish Balm
Stylers: LALSG, Aussome Volume Gel
I have hard water and battle build up (also fine low porosity hair). I have to clarify and low poo regularly. My brother has a softener in his house and when I visit, my hair is much nicer. I do find I can use less products when I'm there so you may be pleasantly surprised when you move.
3a/b, fine texture, low porosity, normal elasticity, mod-CG 7/11/11

Poo: KC Come Clean, SM Moisture Retention
CO: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Renpure Argan Oil, YTCucumbers, Sevi Pumpkin
Style: AIF, HESMU, Biolage gelee, KCCC
LOOB for second day hair


Like BS/ACV rinses, limit protein/humectants.
so can i get build up with hard water? cause im only used to soft water.... and the hard water seems to really help define my curls, so can too much cause build up?

my hair: 3c, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
my hair loves conditioner only styling!
my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.

I also blog about my hair journey, please feel free to read and comment/ask questions http://www.naturallycurly.com/blogs/...air-blogs/2494
so can i get build up with hard water? cause im only used to soft water.... and the hard water seems to really help define my curls, so can too much cause build up?
Originally Posted by Fmasuhr
I'm no expert but I know it's an issue for ME. I have low porosity hair and everything tends to sit on top and build up.

I've read others on here saying that with hard water you need the right poos or products to remove the minerals and deposits periodically. If your hair looks good, maybe it's not an issue for you. Lucky you!
3a/b, fine texture, low porosity, normal elasticity, mod-CG 7/11/11

Poo: KC Come Clean, SM Moisture Retention
CO: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Renpure Argan Oil, YTCucumbers, Sevi Pumpkin
Style: AIF, HESMU, Biolage gelee, KCCC
LOOB for second day hair


Like BS/ACV rinses, limit protein/humectants.
so can i get build up with hard water? cause im only used to soft water.... and the hard water seems to really help define my curls, so can too much cause build up?
Originally Posted by Fmasuhr
I'm no expert but I know it's an issue for ME. I have low porosity hair and everything tends to sit on top and build up.

I've read others on here saying that with hard water you need the right poos or products to remove the minerals and deposits periodically. If your hair looks good, maybe it's not an issue for you. Lucky you!
Originally Posted by Cuban-curl-E
thanks for that! sounds like i just have to play it by ear n if my hair suddenly decides to blow up in my face i got an idea then what it could be

my hair: 3c, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
my hair loves conditioner only styling!
my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.

I also blog about my hair journey, please feel free to read and comment/ask questions http://www.naturallycurly.com/blogs/...air-blogs/2494
Hard water is a "huge" issue for my hair, unfortunately. I wish I was one of those people that hard water doesn't affect their hair, but I am not.

What helped me somewhat was using the Ouidad Water Works Shampoo and doing acv rinses and distilled final rinses. Distilled gets expensive as it is 99cts a gallon here.

Oh, as far as your question in regards to showering with soft water. I have to say my hair, and my skin loved it. Less is definitely more when it comes to using products such as needing less of both poo and cond. I only needed to poo once a wk(hard water = another story as I have to poo more to get the minerals/buildup off). I could diffuse and not be a brillopad and overall the feel of my hair was much better. Hard water strips my hair of it's oil and leaves it very coarse feeling. HTH!
3a/b medium/coarse but mostly moderately coarse, dense, strong strands
Komaza analysis current: medium to thick/ strands(mostly coarse), very strong elasticity, low porosity(some is), healthy strong hair
Goosefootprints: moderately coarse with some medium; low porosity at roots, normal thru shaft, porous ends.
LCLF:medium,normal,normal

Last edited by GettinControl; 03-18-2012 at 02:58 PM. Reason: to give more info!

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