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I am really, really, REALLY having issues with styling my hair!

When I scrunch my hair, it just kinda lays there and get frizzy.
I am currently using Ouidad's Rake and Shake method, but it doesn't work! I use the twirl curl thing that the guy from Curl Keeper says to use, but it makes my hair all limp! I am so FRUSTRATED!
My hair is EXTREMELY thick and my hair is 3a in the front and 2bish in the back. Underneath is all frizzy.
I pretty much feel like buzzing all my hair off. Can someone PLEASE help me with styling, or products that will make my hair more curly or SOMETHING?
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EXTREMELY THICK HAIR!

3a in front, 2b in back.

Dries hair with micro-fiber towel.

Conditioners: Tresseme Naturals

Cleanser: Deva-curl No-Poo.

Deep Conditioner: Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine

Style products: Morrocan Oil Leave in, Tigi Leave In, Bumble and Bumble Curl Defining Creme, Herbal Essences Max Hold Gel, Bumble and Bumble Shine Spray.

Is willing to take any advice for my hair!


Ouidad, sweetie, Your rake and shake ain't doin' nothin' on me!
I have had days that shaving my head sounds like a good option! I think we all have gone through those times! Hang in there! My hair properties are very different than yours so I'm not sure if my solutions will work for you. I have found that glycerin really helps me with frizzies. I first tried using KY jelly under my gel. Worked like a dream. I now make my own FSG and add glycerin to it. LOOB is also a great product for me. Many curlies find that glycerin can be drying. I've not had that problem but I'm careful to use moisturizing products,use deep treatments weekly and clarify at least monthly. Most importantly, be patient and try mixing up your products. Experiment with new ones!
3B, fine, normal to low porosity
Modified CG since June 2010
HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
Are you CG? It looks like you cowash but your styling products have silicones in them...If you are not using sulfates to wash out the silicones, they will build up and can cause frizz...
2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
Yeah, I would start off with checking ingredients in all the products you're using. Getting things right with your products might be a nice, quick fix.

As far as styling goes, I probably practice a pretty uncommon method, but it works for me so I'm fine with it. Instead of plopping, I do skip curls -- but they aren't the 'twirl curl thing' you referred to (I think I've seen the same video that guy did, and that's not what I do). What I do is take a lock of hair, and starting at the root, I twirl the lock with my finger all the way down to the end, THEN I wrap that twirled lock hair around my finger, working from the end of the hair back up until my finger is back up to the root with the curl coiled around it. I then simply release the lock, let it fall and uncoil on its own, and move on to the next lock.

I know that sounds really confusing, but it's actually one easy, fluid motion that takes probably 5 to 7 seconds per lock of hair. How much of my whole head of hair I do with this particular skip curl method just depends on how I'm fee;ing or how my hair is behaving that day. Sometimes I'll do my whole head, but plenty of other times I just do the top couple of layers of hair. I've even done this method of twirling my hair in big sections of hair (like 2" sections), diffused it, and then 'separated' those big curls into smaller curls.

Again, I don't know that anyone else here on nc.com does their hair this way, but it's definitely working well for me, so that's all that matters. I just know that doing my hair this way results in fairly defined curls and full looking hair. If I don't do this method of styling and just diffuse my hair 'as is' after I wash it, it comes out looking really, really stringy and sad looking!

Of course, my particular styling method may not work for you at all, but I wanted to give it as feedback in hopes that would encourage you to keep up with experimenting with your hair (even if it means breaking some of the curly-hair standard practices) until you find what works best for you.
3b / Fine / Low (to Med) Density / Normal Porosity & Elasticity

Currently Using [*Holy Grails*]
Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / *BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!): KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: *DM Super Buttercreme*

Goal: APL Hair
Make sure you are fully CG. And I get what you are saying about the rake and shake thing! It doesn't work for me very well either and I feel like it has to do with the very high density of my hair. I just try to smooth the product over my hair versus 'combing' it through. and I flip my head over to MAKE SURE i got the back because if i miss it it will be a BUSH on the bottom and perfect curls on top.
SHAVE IT THEN!! everytime i get irritated with my hair to the point that i wanna shave it....THATS WHAT I DO. lool. and by the time it grows back i have a new love and appreciation for it.
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I have had days that shaving my head sounds like a good option! I think we all have gone through those times! Hang in there! My hair properties are very different than yours so I'm not sure if my solutions will work for you. I have found that glycerin really helps me with frizzies. I first tried using KY jelly under my gel. Worked like a dream. I now make my own FSG and add glycerin to it. LOOB is also a great product for me. Many curlies find that glycerin can be drying. I've not had that problem but I'm careful to use moisturizing products,use deep treatments weekly and clarify at least monthly. Most importantly, be patient and try mixing up your products. Experiment with new ones!
Originally Posted by mhen76
Where would I buy glycerin? Is that like a gel or a styler?
EXTREMELY THICK HAIR!

3a in front, 2b in back.

Dries hair with micro-fiber towel.

Conditioners: Tresseme Naturals

Cleanser: Deva-curl No-Poo.

Deep Conditioner: Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine

Style products: Morrocan Oil Leave in, Tigi Leave In, Bumble and Bumble Curl Defining Creme, Herbal Essences Max Hold Gel, Bumble and Bumble Shine Spray.

Is willing to take any advice for my hair!


Ouidad, sweetie, Your rake and shake ain't doin' nothin' on me!
Yeah, I would start off with checking ingredients in all the products you're using. Getting things right with your products might be a nice, quick fix.

As far as styling goes, I probably practice a pretty uncommon method, but it works for me so I'm fine with it. Instead of plopping, I do skip curls -- but they aren't the 'twirl curl thing' you referred to (I think I've seen the same video that guy did, and that's not what I do). What I do is take a lock of hair, and starting at the root, I twirl the lock with my finger all the way down to the end, THEN I wrap that twirled lock hair around my finger, working from the end of the hair back up until my finger is back up to the root with the curl coiled around it. I then simply release the lock, let it fall and uncoil on its own, and move on to the next lock.

I know that sounds really confusing, but it's actually one easy, fluid motion that takes probably 5 to 7 seconds per lock of hair. How much of my whole head of hair I do with this particular skip curl method just depends on how I'm fee;ing or how my hair is behaving that day. Sometimes I'll do my whole head, but plenty of other times I just do the top couple of layers of hair. I've even done this method of twirling my hair in big sections of hair (like 2" sections), diffused it, and then 'separated' those big curls into smaller curls.

Again, I don't know that anyone else here on nc.com does their hair this way, but it's definitely working well for me, so that's all that matters. I just know that doing my hair this way results in fairly defined curls and full looking hair. If I don't do this method of styling and just diffuse my hair 'as is' after I wash it, it comes out looking really, really stringy and sad looking!

Of course, my particular styling method may not work for you at all, but I wanted to give it as feedback in hopes that would encourage you to keep up with experimenting with your hair (even if it means breaking some of the curly-hair standard practices) until you find what works best for you.
Originally Posted by Devushka
Thank you so much! Is your styling method like this? Waterlily716 Explains the Pixiecurl Method for Diffusing - YouTube
EXTREMELY THICK HAIR!

3a in front, 2b in back.

Dries hair with micro-fiber towel.

Conditioners: Tresseme Naturals

Cleanser: Deva-curl No-Poo.

Deep Conditioner: Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine

Style products: Morrocan Oil Leave in, Tigi Leave In, Bumble and Bumble Curl Defining Creme, Herbal Essences Max Hold Gel, Bumble and Bumble Shine Spray.

Is willing to take any advice for my hair!


Ouidad, sweetie, Your rake and shake ain't doin' nothin' on me!
Do you know your hair properties? Texture/porosity/elasticity? Your curl type does not matter.

Here is a link to help:

Texture, Porosity, and other Hair Type Madness
Mod CG since 8/2010
2cFii (fia), normal/normal, protein junkie. Itchy and allergic wavy!
Growing out
http://public.fotki.com/Mountaincurl/
pw: mountaincurl
Yeah, I would start off with checking ingredients in all the products you're using. Getting things right with your products might be a nice, quick fix.

As far as styling goes, I probably practice a pretty uncommon method, but it works for me so I'm fine with it. Instead of plopping, I do skip curls -- but they aren't the 'twirl curl thing' you referred to (I think I've seen the same video that guy did, and that's not what I do). What I do is take a lock of hair, and starting at the root, I twirl the lock with my finger all the way down to the end, THEN I wrap that twirled lock hair around my finger, working from the end of the hair back up until my finger is back up to the root with the curl coiled around it. I then simply release the lock, let it fall and uncoil on its own, and move on to the next lock.

I know that sounds really confusing, but it's actually one easy, fluid motion that takes probably 5 to 7 seconds per lock of hair. How much of my whole head of hair I do with this particular skip curl method just depends on how I'm fee;ing or how my hair is behaving that day. Sometimes I'll do my whole head, but plenty of other times I just do the top couple of layers of hair. I've even done this method of twirling my hair in big sections of hair (like 2" sections), diffused it, and then 'separated' those big curls into smaller curls.

Again, I don't know that anyone else here on nc.com does their hair this way, but it's definitely working well for me, so that's all that matters. I just know that doing my hair this way results in fairly defined curls and full looking hair. If I don't do this method of styling and just diffuse my hair 'as is' after I wash it, it comes out looking really, really stringy and sad looking!

Of course, my particular styling method may not work for you at all, but I wanted to give it as feedback in hopes that would encourage you to keep up with experimenting with your hair (even if it means breaking some of the curly-hair standard practices) until you find what works best for you.
Originally Posted by Devushka
Thank you so much! Is your styling method like this? Waterlily716 Explains the Pixiecurl Method for Diffusing - YouTube
Originally Posted by kaleezita7
My diffusing method is the same, but my pre-diffusing styling method is not like hers. I don't plop at all. Before diffusing, I really only apply any styler I might want to use (I make my own FSG and count it as an HG. Even if I use another styling product, I'll put my homemade FSG on top of that), and then I do my twirl-coil form of skip curling that I described above. It seriously only takes a few minutes to do my whole head. After that, I do pixiecurl diffusing.
3b / Fine / Low (to Med) Density / Normal Porosity & Elasticity

Currently Using [*Holy Grails*]
Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / *BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!): KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: *DM Super Buttercreme*

Goal: APL Hair

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