HELP!!!: Multiple Hair Types

Hello everyone!!! I'm new to the boards and I need some help. I recently big chopped (about a little over a month ago) and I didn't realize during my short transition period how many different hair types that I have. According to the hair typing system provided on this site I have 3b, 3c, 4a, and 4b hair types. the crown of my head which is 3b easily susceptible to moisture is still struggling to maintain it. So the rest of my hair is really THIRSTY!!! I've tried so many products, a true product junkie, and I still can't seem to moisturize my hair at all!! It's getting super frustrating. I just want soft, moisturized, not greasy hair. Even if I have to sacrifice definition for softness to do it, I will. So if there are any pretty curlies out there who has had the same problem as me and solved it, PLEASE HELP!!!

Sidenote: I dyed my hair about a month or so into transitioning so I have a little over a half an inch of color treated hair and I'm sure that may be partially an issue.
Try products that penetrate the hair shaft, like coconut oil! And try sealing your hair to keep all that moisture in.
whurly girly (2C/3A).
thick; medium/coarse; low porosity.
hair that is drier than the sahara desert.

LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!
Before I started using the Curly Girl method, I had all different types of curls too.

I was a product junkie, trying lots of different things over the years, even vinegar, baking soda, and just water.

I got rid of all my hair products and began using that method for washing, drying and styling hair. A few adjustments on how you clean your hair (not just what you use to clean it) make a LOT of difference!

I use only L'Oreal sulfate-free shampoo and conditioner, then regular hair gel (alcohol-free). I would never in a million years have believed those products would work, let alone without supplementary products!

There was an adjustment period for a few weeks but now my curls are more uniform and my hair is a lot healthier. Even one spot that used to be pin straight is now curly.

During the adjustment period, my hair was taking 6 hours to air dry but that's down to a normal amount now. I also had a few bad hair days but now I get consistent results. The adjustment period was totally worth it!

I highly recommend that method. The book is a bargain IMHO.

Last edited by matildagage; 11-13-2011 at 07:47 AM. Reason: typo
I actually purchased the Curly Girl Handbook on my nook sometime last month, I think. I read through it all and tried the methods. I don't like using gel that much because it always makes my hair crunchy and hard. I have also used coconut oil as a sealant and went through an entire jar, which I used while transitioning and now recently, I've found that shea butter has been good not to make my hair greasy but I'm still having a hard time to maintain moisture, I've tried the bag method at night, vegetable glycerin, strictly co-washing, deep conditioning with various natural products like honey, castor oil, mayonnaise, eggs and with aubrey organics mostly as a DT. I've done hot oil treatments with castor oil, jojoba oil, coconut oil, olive oil, and shea butter, and still my hair feels like a brillo pad. I've used products like giovanni, shea moisture, keracare, cantu shea butter, organic root stimulator and elasta QP... yes my hair product drawer is over flowing... For styling products I used Ecostyler, mousse, and I even made a natural flaxseed gel, I'm debating on relaxing my hair again... it's frustrating.
I actually purchased the Curly Girl Handbook on my nook sometime last month, I think. I read through it all and tried the methods. I don't like using gel that much because it always makes my hair crunchy and hard. I have also used coconut oil as a sealant and went through an entire jar, which I used while transitioning and now recently, I've found that shea butter has been good not to make my hair greasy but I'm still having a hard time to maintain moisture, I've tried the bag method at night, vegetable glycerin, strictly co-washing, deep conditioning with various natural products like honey, castor oil, mayonnaise, eggs and with aubrey organics mostly as a DT. I've done hot oil treatments with castor oil, jojoba oil, coconut oil, olive oil, and shea butter, and still my hair feels like a brillo pad. I've used products like giovanni, shea moisture, keracare, cantu shea butter, organic root stimulator and elasta QP... yes my hair product drawer is over flowing... For styling products I used Ecostyler, mousse, and I even made a natural flaxseed gel, I'm debating on relaxing my hair again... it's frustrating.
Originally Posted by TeneshaJubilee
I feel for you. Don't get discouraged. Try to establish a routine and stick to it for a year. I am a shea moisture fan but I have thick 4b hair and their products work for me. I haven't read CG handbook but I did tons of research when I first stopped straightening my hair. About a month into my strict regimen I am noticing differences and the dryness is finally fading. I will say I have learned that parted hair is easier to work with when doing anything to my hair & that less is more unless its conditioner. I hope you don't give up but I can understand your frustration.

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About my hair:
weekly shampoo-HE Honey I'm Strong
daily conditioner-HE Honey I'm Strong (use as li)
go to style-Pocahontas braids
Do you use and leave in and then seal with an oil? That can help you retain moisture. I have combination curls too 3b, 3c, 4a and I've found that the right balance of moisture and protein, paired with a thick leave in and sealing have helped me attain well moisturized hair.
last relaxer; 082708, BC; 081810, CG; 122410
high porosity, med/coarse texture, high density, color treated
condish;TN, DevaCurl Heaven in Hair stylers; Heaven in Hair, DevaCurl Curl Cream oils;Castor Oil

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Maybe part of the problem is you're trying so many different things and not giving any method time to work before you move on. You said you just bc'd a month ago. I remember the first time I tried going CG, it lasted a week. I went back to using cones and was having problems with dry hair again. The second time I made myself commit to at least a month and by the end of that month there was a noticeable difference in my hair because I gave my hair time to adjust to the new method. Your hair is probably trying to figure out what the h*ll is going on with all the stuff you've thrown at it in a short time. What I learned from that experience if I keep putting moisturizer in my hair and nothing is working, usually buildup is usually the number one culprit for the dryness. That's why I avoid a lot of heavy oils and silicones because they suffocate my hair. It's important for me to get all the product out once a week or clarify. I actually like to use a non-sulfate shampoo with cocamidopropyl betaine. Some people clarify less often. Depends on your needs.
Maybe part of the problem is you're trying so many different things and not giving any method time to work before you move on. You said you just bc'd a month ago. I remember the first time I tried going CG, it lasted a week. I went back to using cones and was having problems with dry hair again. The second time I made myself commit to at least a month and by the end of that month there was a noticeable difference in my hair because I gave my hair time to adjust to the new method. Your hair is probably trying to figure out what the h*ll is going on with all the stuff you've thrown at it in a short time. What I learned from that experience if I keep putting moisturizer in my hair and nothing is working, usually buildup is usually the number one culprit for the dryness. That's why I avoid a lot of heavy oils and silicones because they suffocate my hair. It's important for me to get all the product out once a week or clarify. I actually like to use a non-sulfate shampoo with cocamidopropyl betaine. Some people clarify less often. Depends on your needs.
Originally Posted by adthomas

I definitely understand what your saying. Although in all the products I've used, I've used over the course of my transition period and after bc-ing but since I bc-ed I've consistently used Giovanni's Direct Leave in conditioner, Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle rose as a co-wash, Aubrey Organics GPB Glycogen + castor oil as a deep conditioner, Shea Moisture curl enhancing smoothie and periodically Ecostyler w/olive oil as a styler. Minus the Ecostyler I've tried to stick to natural products.

And I also seal with shea butter. I use a spray that is a mixture of my co-wash condish, deep condish, castor oil, and water to dampen my hair for easy styling everyday. This mixture is mostly water though. On days that I know will be humid I spray a light mist of my vegetable glycerin + lavender EO and water mix to finish up styling. I avoid using this that often because its getting kind of dry and cold.

Honestly, to me, it actually sounds like I'm doing the right things it's just not yielding the results I should naturally expect.

I look at my mom's hair which is very similar to mine and she has a ton of success (she uses the same products I do, by my product junkie suggestions).
It always looks nice although my hair is a lot thicker than hers and it looks to me that she doesn't really have any of the 4b hair that I have. I sort of think I may be having issues with porosity... but, I'm not sure.
I am also confused as to hair typing as I too have different curl types. My hairdresser says the hair typing at NC is rubbish and to go by feel which adds even more confusion (she is a good friend of mine and I trust her opinion).

I just go with Tresemme's silicone free conditioner, it works fine on my range of curls.
Maybe part of the problem is you're trying so many different things and not giving any method time to work before you move on. You said you just bc'd a month ago. I remember the first time I tried going CG, it lasted a week. I went back to using cones and was having problems with dry hair again. The second time I made myself commit to at least a month and by the end of that month there was a noticeable difference in my hair because I gave my hair time to adjust to the new method. Your hair is probably trying to figure out what the h*ll is going on with all the stuff you've thrown at it in a short time. What I learned from that experience if I keep putting moisturizer in my hair and nothing is working, usually buildup is usually the number one culprit for the dryness. That's why I avoid a lot of heavy oils and silicones because they suffocate my hair. It's important for me to get all the product out once a week or clarify. I actually like to use a non-sulfate shampoo with cocamidopropyl betaine. Some people clarify less often. Depends on your needs.
Originally Posted by adthomas

I definitely understand what your saying. Although in all the products I've used, I've used over the course of my transition period and after bc-ing but since I bc-ed I've consistently used Giovanni's Direct Leave in conditioner, Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle rose as a co-wash, Aubrey Organics GPB Glycogen + castor oil as a deep conditioner, Shea Moisture curl enhancing smoothie and periodically Ecostyler w/olive oil as a styler. Minus the Ecostyler I've tried to stick to natural products.

And I also seal with shea butter. I use a spray that is a mixture of my co-wash condish, deep condish, castor oil, and water to dampen my hair for easy styling everyday. This mixture is mostly water though. On days that I know will be humid I spray a light mist of my vegetable glycerin + lavender EO and water mix to finish up styling. I avoid using this that often because its getting kind of dry and cold.

Honestly, to me, it actually sounds like I'm doing the right things it's just not yielding the results I should naturally expect.

I look at my mom's hair which is very similar to mine and she has a ton of success (she uses the same products I do, by my product junkie suggestions).
It always looks nice although my hair is a lot thicker than hers and it looks to me that she doesn't really have any of the 4b hair that I have. I sort of think I may be having issues with porosity... but, I'm not sure.
Originally Posted by TeneshaJubilee
A lot of people notice what works in transition doesnt work after bc. For me what work for short natural didnt work for long natural. Sometimes we have to evolve our routine with our hair. If u feel u gave the product or method a fair shot and it didnt work dont feel bad about moving on.Sometimes u kiss a frog and get nothing but warts. Just because something is natural doesnt mean your hair is going to like it. As i said heavy oils give me buildup and dry out my hair. Castor oil is heavy so if i use it i cant use any other product with oil. Some SM products are loased with oil and i and other people on here get buildup from it. Shea butter and smces sounds like a lot. Have u tried cowashing more often like every other day? Oh and try not to compare yourself to others. Ur hair is beautifully unique.

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