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curlsrock1105 01-15-2007 09:40 AM

DIFFUSER--what is your routine?
 
i just recently bought a finger diffuser because I am sick of having to wait five hours for my hair to air dry completely. (i have very thick 3B hair that goes about 4-5 inches past my shoulder) :lol: i was wondering what method would give me the best/fastest results. i know that i am supposed to do low speed w/ high heat. but do i diffuse until it is completely dry (which seems it would take about 25 minutes on my hair :lol: )? do i only diffuse for 5 minutes and then let it air dry the rest of the way? or do i let it air dry for about 30 minutes and then diffuse for about 3 minutes? sorry i know that's a lot of questions...it's just that i've heard so many people using different methods. what is your opinion about which is the best? i am going to start experimenting and i will let you know the results. thanks!

The Scientist 01-15-2007 01:15 PM

You really should try to do low speed with the lowest heat possible, actually--not high heat--the heat is what damages your hair. For me what works best is to plop for about 15 minutes, then diffuse until it's about 80% dry, and then let it finish drying on it's own. This seems to work for a lot of people.

Curly Girl Fla 01-15-2007 01:37 PM

Hi. I don't always diffuse, but I love the volume I get when I do. I've been using the Sedusa diffuser for about 2 mos now, and, I know others don't seem to like it, but I absolutely love it! I have been using all Jessicurl products, *plunk* hair the way she describes on her videos, then diffuse after I get dressed, etc. I can fit all my hair (and I have alot)into the bowl, and diffuse upside down w/medium heat until it starts to dry. Low heat does nothing for me. My hair stays wet forever even after using a dryer. Then I just sort of do the same thing on each side more to dry the area close to the roots. My hair is still damp, maybe 75% dry by the time I have to stop to get the kids up and leave for work, but this seems to give me the springiest, smoothest curls I've had in a long time. When my hair is fully dry(at work) I flip my head and scrunch a little, sometimes with some JC hair softening oil. The Sedusa was well worth the $$$ for me, and that's saying alot (and my hair, which gets caught on anything and everything, doesn't tangle in the coils at all!)

Brio 01-15-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Curly Girl Fla
Hi. I don't always diffuse, but I love the volume I get when I do. I've been using the Sedusa diffuser for about 2 mos now, and, I know others don't seem to like it, but I absolutely love it! I have been using all Jessicurl products, *plunk* hair the way she describes on her videos, then diffuse after I get dressed, etc. I can fit all my hair (and I have alot)into the bowl, and diffuse upside down w/medium heat until it starts to dry. Low heat does nothing for me. My hair stays wet forever even after using a dryer. Then I just sort of do the same thing on each side more to dry the area close to the roots. My hair is still damp, maybe 75% dry by the time I have to stop to get the kids up and leave for work, but this seems to give me the springiest, smoothest curls I've had in a long time. When my hair is fully dry(at work) I flip my head and scrunch a little, sometimes with some JC hair softening oil. The Sedusa was well worth the $$$ for me, and that's saying alot (and my hair, which gets caught on anything and everything, doesn't tangle in the coils at all!)

thanks for the update on the Sedusa. I've been wondering how the folks that bought these like it.

wild_sasparilla 01-15-2007 04:55 PM

Slight guano, but I just tried diffusing, just for a couple of minutes, and got the same results I always do...my hair feels awful and dry even though it's still damp, and looks droopy. Anybody else...?

Texas Mama 01-15-2007 05:05 PM

Well, I'm gonna guano YOUR guano, but for something entirely different.


BRIO - what the devil are you using on those curls? They look amazing! I just checked out your fotki and WOW.....I gotta know what routines you've been cycling through - your curls look different in all your pics (just about) but every routine you use seems to work for you!

Brio 01-15-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Slight guano, but I just tried diffusing, just for a couple of minutes, and got the same results I always do...my hair feels awful and dry even though it's still damp, and looks droopy. Anybody else...?

Not me. I think diffusing makes my curls perkier.

I probably diffuse most days.

Brio 01-15-2007 06:01 PM

Re: DIFFUSER--what is your routine?
 
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Originally Posted by curlsrock1105
i just recently bought a finger diffuser because I am sick of having to wait five hours for my hair to air dry completely. (i have very thick 3B hair that goes about 4-5 inches past my shoulder) :lol: i was wondering what method would give me the best/fastest results. i know that i am supposed to do low speed w/ high heat. but do i diffuse until it is completely dry (which seems it would take about 25 minutes on my hair :lol: )? do i only diffuse for 5 minutes and then let it air dry the rest of the way? or do i let it air dry for about 30 minutes and then diffuse for about 3 minutes? sorry i know that's a lot of questions...it's just that i've heard so many people using different methods. what is your opinion about which is the best? i am going to start experimenting and i will let you know the results. thanks!

Curlsrock,

have you checked out the videos on the jessicurl site? I diffuse very similar to how Jess demonstrates.

Brio 01-15-2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Mama
Well, I'm gonna guano YOUR guano, but for something entirely different.


BRIO - what the devil are you using on those curls? They look amazing! I just checked out your fotki and WOW.....I gotta know what routines you've been cycling through - your curls look different in all your pics (just about) but every routine you use seems to work for you!

Thank you, TM!

I wish I had kept better track of what I put in my hair. My routine is usually simple, though, and for most of those pics, I was probably doing the CG method with an occasional shampoo.

My favorite pic is Oct. 2006 and I know what I had in my hair that day: I conditioned with Activate Hydrating CO and scrunched in Kiss My Face Upper Management gel.

As for the November - December ones, I'm going to guess I was probably using Desert Essence Hydrating Shea Butter Co with either the Upper Management Gel or the Herbal Essences Body Envy gel.

The way my hair behaves has a lot to do with the weather.

orangeserendipity32 01-15-2007 06:29 PM

Re: DIFFUSER--what is your routine?
 
I have been diffusing my hair for years, (I live in MN afer all). I have very thick hair, and I would be drying my hair for hours if I didn't use high heat. The products I put on my hair seem to protect it from heat damage, as my hair never feels fried afterward (I diffuse about 2-3x/wk).

I am always trying to enhance my curls, so I find that starting my diffusing upside down really makes them spring up. It also gives volume at the roots. Then, for a shorter period of time I diffuse standing upright and leaning side to side. However, if I start off drying my hair standing up, and THEN finish drying upside down, I get fuzzy, big triangular hair! :lol: I put my ionic hairdryer on high speed/ high heat for about 3/4 of my drying session, and then swith it to a low speed the rest of the time. I find that the longer I wait to diffuse my hair, and let it air dry, the fuzzier or frizzier it seems to get. So, it I'm plopping, I do it 15-20 min. tops to preserve curl definition. I let the bowl of the diffuser scrutch my hair, and I try to touch it as little as possible. I usually stop when hair is about 85% dry. Hopefully that all made sense. Good luck!

slinky1 01-15-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Slight guano, but I just tried diffusing, just for a couple of minutes, and got the same results I always do...my hair feels awful and dry even though it's still damp, and looks droopy. Anybody else...?

This can happen if you aren't using the right products, or the right products for weather or humidity...and diffusing.

Sometimes if you continue to diffuse, your hair gets better. Sometimes if you are using an ionic dryer, your hair comes out droopy.

I've had all of this happen. It ALWAYS happens when the hairdresser does my hair.

Starmie 01-15-2007 08:42 PM

I cover my hair with a microfibre towel (not plopping) for about 10 mins, just to blot, then loosen the curls from my head a bit (quick shake or just pull them), leave it to air dry as long as possible - an hour minimum, then diffuse. I don't let the diffuser bowl touch my hair, just hold it a few inches away and kind of sqeeze my curls by hand. This gets rid of any crunch I may have and gets the curls to stop looking stringy. If I air dry and leave it it still looks wet and stringy even though it's dry, if I diffuse first then leave it to dry the rest of the way, I get too much volume, too much frizz and no definition. I probably diffuse less than 5 mins and do it on low heat/speed, which with my dryer is pretty warm as it only has 2 settings. Hope that makes sense!

CelticCurls 01-15-2007 08:50 PM

When it hits 20F for a high, I pull out the diffuser on the rare days I wash in the a.m. instead of at night. I have a regular bowl diffuser & an ionic dryer (a cheapie).

I have VERY frizz prone hair, & the key for me is to use low heat, high speed & move the diffuser no more than 3 times. I accordion about 1/3 of my hair up into the bowl as much as I can fit (I'm standing upright) & hold it there for about 3 min, then do the other 2 sections.

10 min is about all I can stand of the noise & whole blowdrying process. My hair is about 1/2 dry by then, enough for me to head out. If I don't touch it after this point, it usually dries pretty well.

curlsrock1105 01-15-2007 09:41 PM

BRIO--thanks for letting me know about the movie at the Jessicurl site. it was a really good demo!

so, i've been experimenting with my finger diffuser. the other day i diffused my hair as soon as i was finished applying all of the products. it took about 15-20 minutes to get it only about 75% dry, but there was absolutely NO FRIZZ whatsoever! the curls were really defined and very springy instead of poofy. today i decided to try applying my products and waiting about thirty minutes before i started diffusing for about ten minutes to get it almost completely dry. i found that there was a lot more frizz on the canopy of my hair when i did it this way. hhmmm...

also i have another question: is it bad for your hair if you diffuse it every day (or i guess just every time you wash your hair)? will it eventually lead to a lot of damage from the constant heat, just like can happen if you use a straightener everday? i just don't want my hair to eventually start looking fried. those of you who have been diffusing for a while now...have you been noticing any damage?

thanks

ariesxtreme 01-16-2007 01:45 PM

I have long thick hair and no way can I use no heat on the diffuser. It'll never dry at all this way. I use medium heat and try to cup my curls with my hand so it doesn't directly hit the diffuser itself. I usually plop for about 10-15 min while putting on makeup and doing other things while getting ready and then diffuse until probably 70% or so is dry.

Csarac 01-17-2007 10:53 AM

After much trial and error, here is how I do it:

I don't use the diffuser anymore.

What I do is put product in my hair, let it air dry anywhere from 30 to 40 minutes then I use the attachement on the dryer that is for when you straighten your hair. On high speed, high heat I take cup sections of my hair and point the dryer at the roots and mostly the underside of my hair and I only do it for 3 to 5 minutes, though mostly it will take LESS than 5 minutes to do.

I never thought I would get good hair this way but I need to blow it dry for volume and curl definition. I HATE how it looks when I air dry - it's just too flat even though my hair is thick and coarse. The diffuser was taking too long so one day I didn't have the time to spare 10 freakin' minutes holding a diffuser in sections on low speed/low heat only to have it come out frizzy anyway because it was taking too long to dry and I was messing with it to much during the drying process with the diffuser.

This way, I mostly air dry, then blast it with the blow dryer and I am done in half the time with way better curls, since I am not messing with it as much. If I try to diffuse or blow dry right away I will ALWAYS, no matter what, get dry looking, frizzy, flat yucky hair. ALWAYS. And if I am stupid enough to blow dry right away I HAVE to blow dry it till it's bone dry or it REALLY looks horrible and that takes FOREVER and is not worth the effort! I came across letting it air dry first by accident and I never looked back.

Hope that helps!

Rednaturalcurls 01-17-2007 11:59 AM

I diffuse everyday and have for many years. My hair is cut in an angled bob (shorter in the back, gets longer towards the front) so I start with drying the back first since I want it to spring up more. I push the diffuser in and hold there for a bit, then move to another section in the back and do the same thing. Once that is springing up pretty nicely, then I move towards the front. In the front I don't put the diffuser in at all. I just hold it close to my head without actually touching it and let it dry like that. That seems to keep me from getting frizzy and helps keep the style. When it is almost dry (I diffuse to about 85 to 90% dry) then I will pull the top section up just a little with my fingers to get a little more lift and that's it. It took me awhile to get that routine down but it seems to work the best and gives me consistent good hair days.

As for damaging your hair from the heat, I have diffused with heat for many years and I don't have any serious damage from it. I also shampoo everyday and that hasn't hurt it either. I do also get regular haircuts too so that keeps any potential split ends at bay. I did switch over to Jessicurl products a few months ago and that has made alot of difference in the overall appearance. It's softer and less producty looking than with previous stuff I have used.

ariesxtreme 01-17-2007 12:44 PM

As far as heat and damage is concerned, I don't think a little here and there is that much to hurt it that much. It's when it's done excessively or using like a flat iron everyday when the hair starts to get damaged a lot.

tinicurlyd 01-17-2007 01:27 PM

i dffuse everyday practically and never had damaged hair.. i just cant stand going out with a wet head and with cali being very cold in the mornings it isnt good , i use the med heat on low..i also do the pixie method ..moving the diffuser around and flipping my hair from side to side kinda like how Jess does in her video..plus i do get trims to keep split ends at bay also. using jessicurls stylers has also helped my curls plus cant forget re:coil.

wild_sasparilla 01-17-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tinicurlyd
i dffuse everyday practically and never had damaged hair.. i just cant stand going out with a wet head and with cali being very cold in the mornings it isnt good , i use the med heat on low..i also do the pixie method ..moving the diffuser around and flipping my hair from side to side kinda like how Jess does in her video..plus i do get trims to keep split ends at bay also. using jessicurls stylers has also helped my curls plus cant forget re:coil.

*gasp* I just realized you're in Fremont!!! *sniffle* My childhood home! Oh, those good ol' days at Forest Park Elementary...I loved it so...

Anyway, hi tinicurlyd! I'm in Cali too, though not Fremont anymore, and man is it cold in the mornings now! Nowhere near what other places get, but it was below freezing this morning (I'm in SD). Walking to school was not fun.


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