wet, rainy night...what went wrong ????

So I spent my Friday night, as many people in Texas do, at our high school football game. It lightly rained for most of the first half. I could just feel the huge ball of frizz on top of my head that was once my beautiful curls. When I went to the restroom at halftime - sure enough....it was worst than I thought. My hair has never, ever been THAT frizzy before. I wet my hands in the sink and did my best to save my hair.

What kind of products do I use when it's rainy outside?

I'm on the hunt for a good curl creme. I tried GF Pure & Clean, but it made my hair feel heavy. I need something that can be found in WalGreens, CVS, etc.

I had second day hair after doing the spritz & condish Thursday. The only styler I used was HESMU.

Thanks in advance everyone...have a wonderful weekend......
3b/High porosity/Fine - Medium density/Medium texture
PT: Ion Reconstructor
DT: GVPCB
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care, Tresemme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave In: Tresemme Naturals, Renpure Moisturizing
Stylers:AIF, Salon Care Super Firm (yellow), Eco Styler (clear), KMFUM, HESMU
HG's: Cure Care condish, Ion Reconstructor
Hi Tammy! Our hair properties are different so my solution may not work for you. I have always fought the frizzies. I read on these boards that KY jelly worked for some curlies. Weird as it sounds, I tried it and success! After more reading, I learned that it was the glycerin in the KY jelly that tamed the frizz. There are several products that I now use that have glycerin in them. LOOB is a favorite. I also make my own FSG and add glycerin to it.

Some curlies find that glycerin is drying. I've not found that to be a problem. I tone it down in my Ohio winters when the climate is dry and cold. But in wet, humid weather I don't leave home without it.
3B, fine, normal to low porosity
Modified CG since June 2010
HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
Hi Tammy! Our hair properties are different so my solution may not work for you. I have always fought the frizzies. I read on these boards that KY jelly worked for some curlies. Weird as it sounds, I tried it and success! After more reading, I learned that it was the glycerin in the KY jelly that tamed the frizz. There are several products that I now use that have glycerin in them. LOOB is a favorite. I also make my own FSG and add glycerin to it.

Some curlies find that glycerin is drying. I've not found that to be a problem. I tone it down in my Ohio winters when the climate is dry and cold. But in wet, humid weather I don't leave home without it.
Originally Posted by mhen76
I also have tried the LOOB - but it makes my hair feel strange...almost stiff....but I must be honest...I think I have been a little heavy handed when using it because the last time I did - I just dipped the tip of my finger in it and it gave wonderful control on my second day hair.

At what point in your routine do you use the KY?
3b/High porosity/Fine - Medium density/Medium texture
PT: Ion Reconstructor
DT: GVPCB
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care, Tresemme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave In: Tresemme Naturals, Renpure Moisturizing
Stylers:AIF, Salon Care Super Firm (yellow), Eco Styler (clear), KMFUM, HESMU
HG's: Cure Care condish, Ion Reconstructor
I have many "routines" depending on the weather and my hair's needs. My fine hair struggles if I layer too many things. Ideally, I would use LOOB, EcoStyler or KY after the leave-in and before the gel. That can overwhelm my hair so sometimes I skip the leave-in and go lighter on the gel.

LOOB can be tricky to work with. It takes some practice. I emulsify about a dime sized glob in my hands with some water before raking it into wet hair. It can leave hair a bit stiff but I scrunch out any crunch with my hands lightly coated with leave-in. There is another thread on the boards - "Lube the LOOB" that gives some good tips for using LOOB on 2nd day hair.

Homemade FSG is also great with glycerin added to it.
3B, fine, normal to low porosity
Modified CG since June 2010
HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
I think this happens to a lot of us. My hair apparently likes to poof and swell when I go outside in very high or very low dews. You might want to try using a harder-holding gel and not scrunching out all the crunch when it's dry. Maybe your hair either needs more protein or moisture, or you are having problems with humectants in different dewpoints? You said you lived in Texas, though, and the dews can't get too low there, so I am not sure.
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
I think this happens to a lot of us. My hair apparently likes to poof and swell when I go outside in very high or very low dews. You might want to try using a harder-holding gel and not scrunching out all the crunch when it's dry. Maybe your hair either needs more protein or moisture, or you are having problems with humectants in different dewpoints? You said you lived in Texas, though, and the dews can't get too low there, so I am not sure.
Originally Posted by wavynwild16
I've just begun researching humectants, proteins, etc. I'm having difficulty figuring out if my hair needs more protein or moisture.

My hair is soft, smooth and not rough feeling. When I did the porosity test, I did feel some 'catches' but not a lot. So I guessed that it was really porous. Was I wrong?

So what can I do to see if my hair needs protein or moisture?

I know I have sooo many questions, but caring for my hair is kinda starting to feel like a science experiment, and I'm not doing very well. Lol

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3b/High porosity/Fine - Medium density/Medium texture
PT: Ion Reconstructor
DT: GVPCB
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care, Tresemme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave In: Tresemme Naturals, Renpure Moisturizing
Stylers:AIF, Salon Care Super Firm (yellow), Eco Styler (clear), KMFUM, HESMU
HG's: Cure Care condish, Ion Reconstructor

Last edited by TammyH; 12-03-2011 at 06:25 PM.
Have you tried sealing with oil? Apply some leave in then apply some oil to seal the moisture in. If the hair is full of moisture it wont pull in moisture from the air. After the oil apply a strong hold gel. HTH
Have you tried sealing with oil? Apply some leave in then apply some oil to seal the moisture in. If the hair is full of moisture it wont pull in moisture from the air. After the oil apply a strong hold gel. HTH
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon

I think I know what I'm doing wrong...it's been a couple of weeks since this happened...but after being able to sit down and take a look at my routine that day... spritz & condish the day before...used Giovanni Clarifying shampoo and GVP conditioning balm...

when I got home this evening I looked at the ingredients for the GVPCB and the 2nd ingredient is a humectant....

Water (Aqua), Propylene Glycol, Myristyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Cetearyl Alcohol, Decyl Oleate, Phenoxyethanol, Fragrance (Parfum), Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Hexyl Cinnamal, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract, Hydrastis Canadensis (Golden Seal) Extract, Fucus Vesiculosus (Bladderwack) Extract, Methyl-2-Octynoate

And today it has been cold and rainy with some high dews....I co-washed with GF triple nutrition (protein free), then used the GVPCB as my RO, then used VO5MM as my leave in....and had some serious frizz - although not a bad as before....

So, could the humectant be the culprit of my frizz? I thought I had read somewhere that humectants were big no-no's when the humidity is high...if I am wrong...please correct me....
3b/High porosity/Fine - Medium density/Medium texture
PT: Ion Reconstructor
DT: GVPCB
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care, Tresemme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave In: Tresemme Naturals, Renpure Moisturizing
Stylers:AIF, Salon Care Super Firm (yellow), Eco Styler (clear), KMFUM, HESMU
HG's: Cure Care condish, Ion Reconstructor
Oh how I love the Live Curly Live Free e-book...Page 41 Humectants
Live Curly Live Free - Home
In high moisture areas or wet climates, humectants will force porous hair to continuously “drink” water from the atmosphere until the hair shaft is swollen, bloated and tangled. Both overly dry and overly swollen hair can become frizzy and/or lose their wave pattern due to improper use of humectants.

http://pittsburghcurly.wordpress.com...-the-humidity/
Oh how I love the Live Curly Live Free e-book...Page 41 Humectants
Live Curly Live Free - Home
In high moisture areas or wet climates, humectants will force porous hair to continuously “drink” water from the atmosphere until the hair shaft is swollen, bloated and tangled. Both overly dry and overly swollen hair can become frizzy and/or lose their wave pattern due to improper use of humectants.

It’s not the humidity, it’s the….. humidity « Pittsburgh Curly
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon
I knew I had read this somewhere.....thank you so much for finding it for me.....so now I know this:

* humectants - no-no's in high humidity
* my hair is probably super porous

Whew....now onto proteins...this should be interesting...
3b/High porosity/Fine - Medium density/Medium texture
PT: Ion Reconstructor
DT: GVPCB
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care, Tresemme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave In: Tresemme Naturals, Renpure Moisturizing
Stylers:AIF, Salon Care Super Firm (yellow), Eco Styler (clear), KMFUM, HESMU
HG's: Cure Care condish, Ion Reconstructor

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