Looking for a mousse with a wet, thick consistency

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Hi everyone,

I had been using Salon Selectives mousse for the past 11 years. It is the only mousse I've found that will form and hold my curls without any crunchiness!
Unfortunately, here in Canada, Salon Selectives has recently changed their formula and it no longer works for me.

When squirted into the palm of your hand, the old SS mousse I liked was very wet, sticky and thick (picture a big blob of dense Cool Whip but more liquidy). This is the only mousse I have ever found with this texture. It provides excellent curl definition.

The new SS formula is more of a light and fluffy texture (picture meringue, the stuff on top of lemon pie). It does not form my curls, and instead I end up with fluffy hair.

I'm hoping someone understands what I'm describing in terms of the consistensy of the mousse I'm looking for and can recommend something that is similar to my old Salon Selectives favourite!

Btw...my hair type is a 2c and my styling method is to flip head over when soaking wet, scrunch with mousse and air dry...reapplying more mousse a few more times during the 3+ hours air dry process.

Thanks
Hi everyone,

I had been using Salon Selectives mousse for the past 11 years. It is the only mousse I've found that will form and hold my curls without any crunchiness!
Unfortunately, here in Canada, Salon Selectives has recently changed their formula and it no longer works for me.

When squirted into the palm of your hand, the old SS mousse I liked was very wet, sticky and thick (picture a big blob of dense Cool Whip but more liquidy). This is the only mousse I have ever found with this texture. It provides excellent curl definition.

The new SS formula is more of a light and fluffy texture (picture meringue, the stuff on top of lemon pie). It does not form my curls, and instead I end up with fluffy hair.

I'm hoping someone understands what I'm describing in terms of the consistensy of the mousse I'm looking for and can recommend something that is similar to my old Salon Selectives favourite!

Btw...my hair type is a 2c and my styling method is to flip head over when soaking wet, scrunch with mousse and air dry...reapplying more mousse a few more times during the 3+ hours air dry process.

Thanks
Originally Posted by ms1234
Condition 3 in 1 mousse (can be found at CVS) has a creamier consistency (less airy) and is super cheap so you could try that...I tried the new Deva mousse and that seams to have a creamy consistency as well but I did not like my results. And that is more expensive. HTH
2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
Try joico joiwhip. It sounds similar to what you are describing.

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I second Joiwhip. Start with small amounts until you figure out how much you need to use.
Third the Joiwhip, it's nice and creamy - doesn't disintegrate when you touch it. I find Paul Mitchell pretty much the same but I've forgotten it's name. Both work well for me.
3b in South Australia.
Thank you for those suggestions. They don't sell that Clairol Condition 3 in 1 mousse here in Canada, so I think I will try the Joico Joiwhip.
Not looking forward from going from a mousse that costs $2.50 to one that costs $20.00 +...but I guess it's worth a shot.
Thank you for those suggestions. They don't sell that Clairol Condition 3 in 1 mousse here in Canada, so I think I will try the Joico Joiwhip.
Not looking forward from going from a mousse that costs $2.50 to one that costs $20.00 +...but I guess it's worth a shot.
Originally Posted by ms1234
It's a pretty big bottle...I sometimes use Joiwhip too (don't know why I didn't think of it before)...It does have protein in it...So you will want to think about how your hair reacts to protein. I can't use is too many days in a row or my hair gets a little dry.

I get mine at Ulta and they had a sample size...If you can find that, that would be the way to go so you can determine if you like it...
2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
AG MousseGel is this consistency it has more hold than joiwhip IMO.
2B waves/ fine-med texture/normal porosity( I think?) trying to figure out my protein needs

AOGPB, SS Caitlins, Garnier Body Boost Condish
CJ Daily Fix or KC Come Clean
CJ Curl Fix is true LOVE
Love all SS products
Donna Marie Miragelly & my own FSG
AG MousseGel
BRHG
I know a lot of curlies don't like Samy products, but Samy Curl Constructing Mousse works really well for what you describe.
I have the Joico mousse & I'm not impressed, in fact I was thinking of putting it on the swap boards. I think it acts like any other mousse & im kind of bummed i spent a lot of money on it. I'm thinking of trying the KMS curl up wave foam to enhance my curls but haven't yet.
2c fine waves
Loo-poo: Avalon, Andalou, As I Am - NO SULFATES!
Cond: Avalon, Andalou, Kinky Curly - NO SILCONES!
Gel: KCCC, products with no silicones or polyquats
wish I had more curls
Also looking for suggestions & help
I'm not sure if you're cg - but my pre-cg HG was matrix Curl.Life foam. Thick, wet, but still didn't weigh me down. Enhanced curl pattern, etc.

If you are CG, I've heard good things about HESMU mousse, and I've tried the Tresemme curl mousse and it's ok. Not super thick, but pretty thick.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I as well highly recommend the AG mousse gel. Not sticky, it's CG friendly, no build up. It's pricy but worth it.


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3A, highlighted layered shoulder length
Texture: Fine Porosity: Normal Elasticity: Normal
Low poo: ABBA Pure Color Protect sulfate free poo
Co-wash: VO5 Blackberry Sage Tea and Strawberries and Cream
RO: Tresemme Naturals. Once a week mix this with a little AO GPN to give me a protein boost.
Styling: KCCC, Homemade Flax Seed Gelee, Aquage Defining Gel; BB Flax Gelee
I like HE Tousle Me Softly. THAT ONE, not Totally Twisted.
I will have to try the JoiWhip mousse! I have heard rave reviews about this product. Thanks ladies.
*Natural 3C*
Wash: Liquid African Black Soap, BS/ACV
Conditioner: SM SB, YTCarrots, Organix Coconut Milk
Pre-Poo: Honey & EVOO
DC: AOHR
PT:
Super Mayo Deep Conditioning Treatment
Moisturizer: CURLS Souffle
Leave-In: KCKT
Gel:
KCCC, Eco Custard
Oil/Sealant:
SB, EVCO, EVOO
Whatever you buy, read the label and make sure it doesn't have propane in it.

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Whatever you buy, read the label and make sure it doesn't have propane in it.

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Originally Posted by midgi
I thought propane was in all mousses as it is what pumps the mousse out into a foam...I could be wrong, but I thought IAgirl wrote something about this...
2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
You rang? Propane is a "CFC-free" propellant. Highly flammable. Under pressure, just plain scary. Do not, under any circumstances, try to light it on fire or let it roll behind a radiator. (Just a joke). Mousses, except the ones with the pump-able tops (non-aerosol mousses or foams) need a propellant to get out of the can. It's the propellant that largely determines the texture of the mousse! Some make big bubbles for a thick, wet mousse and some make little bubbles for a dry-feeling mousse. My understanding is the HFC propellants like difluoroethane or Hydrofluorocarbon 152a make the small-bubble (dry feeling) mouses. The propane or isobutane (or some combination of those 2) propelled mousses make stiff-feeling mousses and if you mix some of these propellants, you can develop a wide variety of textures. The Clariol mousse has Hydrofluorocarbon 152a, and Isobutane, for example.
Then there are surfactants in mousses to keep them fluffy long enough to spread around in your hair - things like Laureth-23, PEG-150 distearate, Oleth-20. That has a lot to do with texture because some will have more "body" and flash-foam action and wet feel than others.
And the polymer for hold which is either something like PVA/PVP that requires neutralization (another formulation issue) or the polyquaterniums which have a conditioning feel to them.
Like asthma inhalers switching to hydroflurocarbons (HFCs instead of CFCs), because CFCs were correlated with ozone destruction over Antarctica and Southern Australia, the new formulations are not always as good as the old ones!

I realize that this is no help at all in choosing a good mousse. I feel your frustration in losing a product you liked for years that was so affordable and reliable. I wish there were a thick, wet, gloppy one with no scent and no itch for myself!
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You rang? Propane is a "CFC-free" propellant. Highly flammable. Under pressure, just plain scary. Do not, under any circumstances, try to light it on fire or let it roll behind a radiator. (Just a joke). Mousses, except the ones with the pump-able tops (non-aerosol mousses or foams) need a propellant to get out of the can. It's the propellant that largely determines the texture of the mousse! Some make big bubbles for a thick, wet mousse and some make little bubbles for a dry-feeling mousse. My understanding is the HFC propellants like difluoroethane or Hydrofluorocarbon 152a make the small-bubble (dry feeling) mouses. The propane or isobutane (or some combination of those 2) propelled mousses make stiff-feeling mousses and if you mix some of these propellants, you can develop a wide variety of textures. The Clariol mousse has Hydrofluorocarbon 152a, and Isobutane, for example.
Then there are surfactants in mousses to keep them fluffy long enough to spread around in your hair - things like Laureth-23, PEG-150 distearate, Oleth-20. That has a lot to do with texture because some will have more "body" and flash-foam action and wet feel than others.
And the polymer for hold which is either something like PVA/PVP that requires neutralization (another formulation issue) or the polyquaterniums which have a conditioning feel to them.
Like asthma inhalers switching to hydroflurocarbons (HFCs instead of CFCs), because CFCs were correlated with ozone destruction over Antarctica and Southern Australia, the new formulations are not always as good as the old ones!

I realize that this is no help at all in choosing a good mousse. I feel your frustration in losing a product you liked for years that was so affordable and reliable. I wish there were a thick, wet, gloppy one with no scent and no itch for myself!
Dear Santa...
Originally Posted by IAgirl
I knew you would be able to explain it! Thanks!
2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
Suaves professional captivating curls mousse. I use it with spray gel for a bit more hold.
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