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02-01-2012, 04:18 PM
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#61
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 13,123
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curlyev, I did sort of rub it in my hands to de-fluff (it's a word, swears) it, but it's been years since I used mousse so maybe I used too much. Throughout the day I thought "I'll have to try it again using less and maybe scrunching some water in..." but when the strong scent was still with me at the end of the day and I was sick of smelling it.  I might try it again at some point, might as well since I've got a whole can of it!
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Byron,GA> Charleston, SC> Jacksonville, FL> Guilford, CT> Rohnert Park, CA! A southern drawl in sunny Cali! .
The amount of time from slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is exactly one bananosecond.
I do have a secret yen for pink in unexpected places. ~ ninja dog
I've decided that I'll never get down to my original weight, and I'm OK with that--After all, 8 pounds 2 oz. is just not realistic.
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02-01-2012, 05:24 PM
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#62
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 6,347
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Figures every condish you posted is loaded with PROTEIN! Good news for the protein lovers but not for me
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Discovered CG 2007
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
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02-01-2012, 06:33 PM
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#63
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 245
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Protein is okay for me, but not in large amounts!
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-3a/3b, fine, very thick, normal por., normal elast., long, dye- free (CG since Nov. '11)
-CO: every other night (air dry) VO5 (various scents)
-Low poo (1 or 2 times a week as needed): ION Color Defense Clarifying or Giovanni TTTT
-RO: GVP CB
-LI: Giovanni DLI or a tiny bit of VO5 (my co wash)
-Styling: BYZ Noodle Head Tame your Curls Mousse
-PT: ION Effective Care
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02-01-2012, 06:37 PM
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#64
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 245
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Spring, if you try it again, just use a tiny bit, you can always add more. I hadn't used mousse since High School so it took me like a week or more of trying before I got it right. I can't stand when my hair gets that sticky, product-y feeling, and I don't smell the mousse in my hair unless I put my nose to my hair, so maybe using less will work. I play around with all my products, even the ones I don't like, just to see what I can do. All trial and error! Product Junkie Syndrome! lol
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-3a/3b, fine, very thick, normal por., normal elast., long, dye- free (CG since Nov. '11)
-CO: every other night (air dry) VO5 (various scents)
-Low poo (1 or 2 times a week as needed): ION Color Defense Clarifying or Giovanni TTTT
-RO: GVP CB
-LI: Giovanni DLI or a tiny bit of VO5 (my co wash)
-Styling: BYZ Noodle Head Tame your Curls Mousse
-PT: ION Effective Care
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02-01-2012, 07:10 PM
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#65
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 13,123
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Curlyev, thanks for the tips I'll definitely try it again because I'm pretty sure I used WAY too much.
I was a mousse junkie back in the day, the L'oreal Springing Curls mousse was my obsession then they changed the formula. Thank goodness I found this site to help me find another product!
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Byron,GA> Charleston, SC> Jacksonville, FL> Guilford, CT> Rohnert Park, CA! A southern drawl in sunny Cali! .
The amount of time from slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is exactly one bananosecond.
I do have a secret yen for pink in unexpected places. ~ ninja dog
I've decided that I'll never get down to my original weight, and I'm OK with that--After all, 8 pounds 2 oz. is just not realistic.
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02-01-2012, 10:47 PM
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#66
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Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 18,071
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Bangs? I want to see a picture of these bangs.
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SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring"
3b/c/a mix. medium texture, low porosity
* pw: just4curlies * My Motto: Strand Test!
some hair pics -- gone, but never forgotten.
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02-01-2012, 10:55 PM
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#67
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 13,123
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Dear mercy no. They're not really supposed to be bangs, but now the front section of my hair is short enough to constitute calling them bangs.
When they grow out some I'm going to make an appt. for a real haircut at a salon that Jaynee recommended to me. I am much too ashamed to see a professional for the first time right now.
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Byron,GA> Charleston, SC> Jacksonville, FL> Guilford, CT> Rohnert Park, CA! A southern drawl in sunny Cali! .
The amount of time from slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is exactly one bananosecond.
I do have a secret yen for pink in unexpected places. ~ ninja dog
I've decided that I'll never get down to my original weight, and I'm OK with that--After all, 8 pounds 2 oz. is just not realistic.
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02-02-2012, 09:57 AM
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#68
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Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 18,071
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LOL Just wear cute hair clips if they don't behave as they grow out.
(I'm still working on getting StruttsWife out here again for a big curly haircut weekend, and training for some stylists out here. You WILL come out for that! LOL  )
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SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring"
3b/c/a mix. medium texture, low porosity
* pw: just4curlies * My Motto: Strand Test!
some hair pics -- gone, but never forgotten.
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02-03-2012, 06:55 PM
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#69
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Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,295
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Okay, I have to go to Sally's and this thread caught my eye. I am addicted to the Hard Water shampoo (and I just used up the last bit this morning). I have tried to replace it with many other things. Nothing works as well. I found L'anza sulfate free chelating shampoo, its good, but is $24 bucks a bottle. Serious. And leaves my hair in exactly the same condition that the Ion does. SoooOooo not sure its worth it.
Thanks for your list, because I, like pedaheh, am now going to check out several things on your list! I need to see if the biotera curl gel has glycerin.
I second the recommendation of the Mebco comb as well.
I'm gonna try the Paul Mitchell Foam you suggested, and someone else suggested the Ion Alcohol free hairspray.
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Grand Goobah Caedran, Aqueous Infusion of Demulcents, Order of the Curly Crusaders
Hot and Humid SpaceCoast area of Florida * Fia 2cFi, fine texture, med porosity CG 5-29-09 * My hair loves protein! Currently using : Curlisto Bio-Gel Mousse, CJ DFCC, KMFUM, BHRG, Spiral Solutions -- Everything!!! Coconut Oil Pre-Poo, once a month Hard Water shampoo. Avoiding Glycerin in finishing products.
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02-07-2012, 09:46 AM
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#70
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 101
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I like GVP Conditioning Balm, wouldn't say I LOVE it, though.
This is what I'm currently using, but I feel like I get split ends really fast, any suggestions?
Suave Naturals Coconut Conditioner (cowash)
GVP Conditioning Balm (conditioner and leave in)
LA Looks Sport Gel
Herbal Essences Body Envy Mousse
This is all I ever use in my hair. I need volume because the roots of my hair are so flat, but I don't think the mousse I'm using is CG and I'd like to go completely CG. I was a little confused in reading this thread, are Beyond the Zone Tame Your Curls Mousse and the "noodlehead" mousse the same thing? Do they help with volume? Or more with curl form?
I also need a good deep condish from sally's and a good heat protectant (for when I occasionally straighten my hair--can you get CG heat styling products?) For some reason it is so hard for me to figure out what is and what is not CG, I like it when people tell me what works and then I experiment on that haha.  Thanks in advance!
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02-07-2012, 04:47 PM
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#71
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 245
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They are the same thing, the official title of the product is Beyond the Zone Noodle Head Tame your Curls. It's awesome. It gives me defined curls for sure. I don't have flat hair, except my roots sometimes, and this mousse gives them volume. I really really LOVE it. There are some tricks to using it, but once you get it right, you will have soft, smooth curls if it works for you the way it did for me. It is CG too.
About the ends splitting, I have that. I use Sally's k-Pak knock-off on the ends of my hair (very seldom do I use it on my whole head since I don't need a protein overload), and it really helps with breakage. I do it about every 2 weeks.
When you are using your GVP Conditioning Balm, you should try putting extra on your ends, it seems to helps me. I hate that my hair splits so easily!!!
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-3a/3b, fine, very thick, normal por., normal elast., long, dye- free (CG since Nov. '11)
-CO: every other night (air dry) VO5 (various scents)
-Low poo (1 or 2 times a week as needed): ION Color Defense Clarifying or Giovanni TTTT
-RO: GVP CB
-LI: Giovanni DLI or a tiny bit of VO5 (my co wash)
-Styling: BYZ Noodle Head Tame your Curls Mousse
-PT: ION Effective Care
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02-07-2012, 08:17 PM
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#73
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 454
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My favorite sally's product is the Argan oil. It's my staple. My hair loves it and it smells delicious.
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25", hennahead, CO, goal: hip
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02-07-2012, 09:17 PM
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#74
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 396
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Can't believe I forgot to mention this before:
Hawaiian Silky Miracle Worker 14-in-1
No matter what condition my hair is in, after I spray this on and rub it in, my hair looks and feels soft and bouncy. I use it as an overnight conditioner with a sleep cap all the time. I also use it as a refresher during the day, and/or for second/third day hair.
It's basically a leave-in conditioner that works beautifully on dry hair. It's really, really soothing to my scalp as well, and even though it has fragrance, it's not perfumey or strong. (Sometimes overly fragranced products make my hairline breakout).
Ingredients:Water, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Mineral Oil, PEG-47 Lanolin, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Polysorbate-60, Triethanolamine, Acetamide AME, Hydrolized Vegetable Protein, Stearyl Alcohol, Propylparaben, Methylparaben, Menthol, Panthenol DL, Jojoba Oil, Angelica Root Extract, Articum Lappa Root Extract, Chamomilla Recutita Extract, Symphytum Officinale Leaf Extract, Mistletoe Extract, Nettle Extract, Oatmeal Extract, Rosemary Leaf Extract, Sage Leaf Extract, Nasturtium Officinale Extract, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothizolinone, Fragrance
I never want to be without this product.
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3b, Coarse, Low Porosity, Desert Climate
Cleanse: Hair One with Argan Oil, As I Am Co-Wash, KC Come Clean
Rinse-out: KCKT, Cure Care Conditioner
Leave-in: As I Am Leave In, Miss Jessie's Pillow Soft Curls Lotion, KCKT
Style/Hold:Ouidad Climate Control Gel, KCCC,
4 Naturals Spring Back Custard,
Refresh: Shea Moisture Daily Moisture Mist
Q-Redew
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02-07-2012, 10:02 PM
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#75
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 698
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It looks like you have a pretty healthy hair regiment, besides the occasional straightening. I would point out that sometimes splits are not due to the products we use, but the ways that we handle our hair. It could be the hair accessories you use, how you detangle, how you style your hair, etc. Be gentle in all these things and hopefully you will see a decrease in splits. Also I would try dusting (going through hair by hair) your ends and cutting out the splits. That will help too, although it's a bit tedious.
My fave heat protectant from Sally's is the GVP spray heat protectant... I don't think it's a dupe of anything, but it works! It does have a drying alcohol in it though. I've also tried the beyond the zone mousse heat protectant, which is cone and alcohol free, but it didn't work as well for me.
Oh and I think the HE mousses are all CG. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
As far as DTs you may be able to use the GVP conditioning balm as one, if you add in some honey and oils maybe.  It always seemed super thick to me. It's my go-to, HG moisturizing CO.
Other products I like from sally's:
My comb (lol)
My sleeping cap
My duckbill clips
Tangle teezer <3 <3
Flexi rods
Seche vite top coat
orly top n bottom coat (all in one!)
queen helene's raspberry face scrub
I love Sally's because they have such a nice variety of not just products, but styling tools as well.
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02-08-2012, 10:18 PM
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#76
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 101
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Thank you!! I will definitely try these tips! Btw, why are you whimaway sometimes and waterlily716 others??
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02-09-2012, 01:47 AM
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#77
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 698
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Yes, sorry for the confusion! I just changed my curltalk username to waterlily716.
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02-24-2012, 04:17 PM
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#78
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Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 18,071
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I just went to Sally's and got the corkscrews. They look more dark gunmetal gray than brown though. I hope they don't show.
That's actually all I got! Amazing! I was in a hurry and didn't really have time to shop for anything else. I went last week but they were out since they are on sale thru 2/29 for $3.99 a pair.
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SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring"
3b/c/a mix. medium texture, low porosity
* pw: just4curlies * My Motto: Strand Test!
some hair pics -- gone, but never forgotten.
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03-12-2012, 01:39 AM
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#79
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 83
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I mix it with other stuff & use it as a leave in or to condition my hair right before I wash it. It's ok, but if I'm not using anything with it, I have to use a lot because it's pretty thin & on the watery side. But for under $10 for a gallon, it does the trick  .
Sent from my M886 using CurlTalk App
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04-18-2012, 07:59 PM
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#80
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 691
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+1 for Apple Pear Conditioner! This stuff is very light and good for co-washing or a light leave in. I love the smell too. I bought my gallon jug on sale for 7.99.
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CG as of Feb. 2012 combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.
products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
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