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Old 02-04-2012, 12:13 AM   #1
 
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Default What does cone buildup feel like?

I think I might be having some.... I have a very slight greasy feel, but then my hair feels dry at the same time?
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:15 AM   #2
 
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That could be some buildup. I went through it before I officially switched to CG. I was technically following a CG routine with the exception of adding a cone-filled hair serum to my hair every day. I didn't notice it by feel as much as I noticed it by my hair suddenly looking worse instead of better. My hair looked drier and the curls started losing definition because of an increase in frizz. I spent several months wearing my hair pulled up almost every day because I hated how it looked. That's part of the reason I won't use non-water soluble cones now, even though I low-poo twice a week. I never want to go through that with my hair ever again.

I'm (hopefully) attaching two pictures so you can see the difference that I saw. The first is from a few days before my final sulfate wash, the second is from after a few weeks of cone-free.

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Old 02-04-2012, 03:26 AM   #3
 
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I really want to go completely cone-free, but I can't find a totally cone-free conditioner that's moisturizing enough! It sucks, argh.
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:09 AM   #4
 
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You described how my hair looks/feels when I use an ingredient it doesn't like--dry and greasy at the same time (with frizz.) That's the way my hair reacts to non PEG castor oil and mineral oil.

There are a lot of conditioners that weren't moisturizing enough for my hair--most of the "salon" brands and their clones that you can buy at Sally's, KCKT and others. My hair prefers the more natural products from the online, boutique companies. Can't believe that you wouldn't be able to find a moisturizing conditioner at one of those companies: CJ, SS, Komaza, Marie Dean (to name a few.)
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:32 AM   #5
 
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I really want to go completely cone-free, but I can't find a totally cone-free conditioner that's moisturizing enough! It sucks, argh.
The irony with cones is that they make your hair feel nice by coating and sealing the cuticle. It's this same sealing the cuticle that then prevents any moisture from being able to get in, until you remove them with a strong enough cleanser.

Have you tried GFTN? I found it to be so moisturizing that I can't even use it every day. GF Sleek and Shine is also popular, and Length and Strength has cones, but they are the water soluble type so you shouldn't get the problems with buildup. If you have a Sally's nearby, I would also suggest trying GVP conditioning balm. I rotate all four of these as RO, depending on how my hair feels that day. I use a much lighter conditioner to co-wash because my scalp gets greasy. My hair needs lots of moisture, my scalp does not.

I haven't tried any of the product lines that Kathymack mentioned, except the CJ, but I use Beauticurls pretty regularly. Their cleansing conditioner, Daily Fix, is also fantastic, IMO. The most difficult part of this whole process is that there can be so much trial and error involved, but with all of the advice around here, I'm sure you'll be able to find something that works for you.

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Old 02-04-2012, 10:45 AM   #6
 
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Greasy and dry is exactly how my hair feels with too much buildup. I get it from cones and products with a super lot of heavy oils. Some of the Shea Moisture stylers givee buildup.
Have you ever tried adding a little aloe vera juice to your conditioner? I put a little in my TJ nourish and spa and it is great. You can use any creamy conditioner you'd like.
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I really want to go completely cone-free, but I can't find a totally cone-free conditioner that's moisturizing enough! It sucks, argh.
The irony with cones is that they make your hair feel nice by coating and sealing the cuticle. It's this same sealing the cuticle that then prevents any moisture from being able to get in, until you remove them with a strong enough cleanser.

Have you tried GFTN? I found it to be so moisturizing that I can't even use it every day. GF Sleek and Shine is also popular, and Length and Strength has cones, but they are the water soluble type so you shouldn't get the problems with buildup. If you have a Sally's nearby, I would also suggest trying GVP conditioning balm. I rotate all four of these as RO, depending on how my hair feels that day. I use a much lighter conditioner to co-wash because my scalp gets greasy. My hair needs lots of moisture, my scalp does not.

I haven't tried any of the product lines that Kathymack mentioned, except the CJ, but I use Beauticurls pretty regularly. Their cleansing conditioner, Daily Fix, is also fantastic, IMO. The most difficult part of this whole process is that there can be so much trial and error involved, but with all of the advice around here, I'm sure you'll be able to find something that works for you.

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I have used GFTN and I actually really like it apart from the fact that the glycerin makes my hair act a bit weird sometimes. So in the meantime I'll continue using that and at the same time look for something else that you suggested.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:54 PM   #8
 
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Do you have any flakes? That's what happens when I have cone build-up. I just low poo when it happens, or if my hair really looks bad I use a sulfate shampoo. I used to get that when I didn't scrub my head hard enough when co-washing. When I used cones, Dimethicone and Amodimethicone were the worst.
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Weird, when I thought I had cone build up, my hair felt plasticy and fake, like brand new barbie doll hair. I wonder if something else caused that feeling then.
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:40 PM   #10
 
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Maybe you used one of the more waxy cones or just something waxy in general-I know the feeling you are talking about.
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