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Old 02-05-2012, 03:52 PM   #1
 
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Default Homemade hair gel WITHOUT refrigeration?

I decided to go all natural, so now I'm "shampooing" twice a week with ACV and conditioning twice a week with Virgin Coconut Oil. It's great! My hair is sooo soft. I really want to make my own hair gel/gelly too...but all of the flaxseed and gelatin ones have to be refrigerated...

Any recipes that I could keep in the shower? THanks!
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Old 02-05-2012, 04:15 PM   #2
 
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I assume you can, but you may have to add a preserving agent so the gel won't spoil as quickly.
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Old 02-05-2012, 04:23 PM   #3
 
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Hi there,

You could see if this fellow curly has any of this preservative left

Potassium Sorbate (preservative to add to FSG)
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:09 PM   #4
 
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My 2 cents (see links). Not all these are locally available, nor "all natural." But then trying to get what amounts to a food-like item to not be inhabited by fungi and bacteria at room temperature is also pretty unnatural. science-y hair blog: Preserving Your Homemade Hair Gels
This is important too: science-y hair blog: When Good Bottles Go Bad
My husband is afraid of conditioner lately (sensitive scalp) so I put coconut oil in his hair when it is almost, but not quite dry - which seems to be the perfect moment. Mine would be limp as a wet rag if I did that more than once, but it makes his shiny and curly and so soft, like you said. As good as any conditioner - maybe better.

You'll get the best shelf life with well-sterilized bottles and equipment and if you heat everything you add to the FSG to boiling. There are only a few additives you can't boil. Usually fancy stuff. The fewer bacteria and fungi going into the bottle with the FSG, the fewer will grow in there. But fungi in particular do find their way in - being airborne and all.

Keep your shower really clean and mold-free. That helps a lot. Scrub the shower with baking soda and then rinse, then wipe it down with vinegar. You can spray the shower curtain with vinegar too. Get it dry in the shower by wiping down the water droplets to prevent mold growth and run the bathroom fan if you have one. Can you tell I'm an allergy girl???

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Old 02-05-2012, 05:22 PM   #5
 
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I loooove my homemade gel, but haaaate to put cold products on my head. My solution was to make up my gel, freeze it in an ice cube tray, thru a little trial and error figure out how many cubes I need for one application, put that number of cubes in a plastic bag. Then I take one bag, throw it in the bottom of the shower and by the time my shower is done it is melted, warm and ready to use. HTH and hope it made sense.
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I loooove my homemade gel, but haaaate to put cold products on my head. My solution was to make up my gel, freeze it in an ice cube tray, thru a little trial and error figure out how many cubes I need for one application, put that number of cubes in a plastic bag. Then I take one bag, throw it in the bottom of the shower and by the time my shower is done it is melted, warm and ready to use. HTH and hope it made sense.
Thank you, everyone, for the helpful information! What is "co-kra" gel, though? Do you have a recipe?
Thanks again!
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Hair coconut oil and protein
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I loooove my homemade gel, but haaaate to put cold products on my head. My solution was to make up my gel, freeze it in an ice cube tray, thru a little trial and error figure out how many cubes I need for one application, put that number of cubes in a plastic bag. Then I take one bag, throw it in the bottom of the shower and by the time my shower is done it is melted, warm and ready to use. HTH and hope it made sense.
Thank you, everyone, for the helpful information! What is "co-kra" gel, though? Do you have a recipe?
Thanks again!
First of all, that is a stroke of pure genius.

I saw co-kra gel in your signature and I'm also very curious!
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Old 02-05-2012, 08:44 PM   #8
 
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It is my own homemade gel
I take a small saucepan, fill it 1/3 of the way up with coconut milk, put in 1/2 bag of chopped frozen okra, boil for 20-30 minutes, strain, add whatever is appropriate for the weather conditions, Mag Sulfate, honey, avocado oil, etc., then freeze it.

I love FSG, but had such a hard time straining it. Co-kra gel does exactly the same thing, but is so much easier to make. You can also boil it in water if your hair doesn't need the coconut milk.
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Co-Kra gel is my own concoction of okra boiled in coconut milk. It is a cross between FSG and KCCC and leaves my hair very soft and shiny
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Thanks for sharing your recipe! Now I want to try okra gel. And then I'd have to make gumbo...
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:27 PM   #10
 
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I add some 'liquid germall plus' I got off of ebay to preserve my flaxseed gel.
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It is my own homemade gel
I take a small saucepan, fill it 1/3 of the way up with coconut milk, put in 1/2 bag of chopped frozen okra, boil for 20-30 minutes, strain, add whatever is appropriate for the weather conditions, Mag Sulfate, honey, avocado oil, etc., then freeze it.

I love FSG, but had such a hard time straining it. Co-kra gel does exactly the same thing, but is so much easier to make. You can also boil it in water if your hair doesn't need the coconut milk.
This looks genius!! I just wish it didn't have to be frozen I have to go away on trips, but I'd love to be able to use this in a bottle...
If you made this and bottled it with some type of preservative, I would buy it by the gallon!
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:51 AM   #12
 
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I am sure Botticelli Babe would make some for you. If you haven't seen her on this web site, she is a mixtress extraordinaire. She started refining and posting her homemade FSG gel. I bought some from her and was SOLD! I am sure she would make you some. She has an etsy account. Her products are sold under the name Botticelli Botanicals. She sells an okra gel, calls it Mudd. I bet if you ask her to use coconut milk instead of water she would.
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Day 1: Cowash and condition with AO GPB, ACV Rinse,
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Co-Kra gel is my own concoction of okra boiled in coconut milk. It is a cross between FSG and KCCC and leaves my hair very soft and shiny

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Old 02-07-2012, 10:48 AM   #13
 
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When I travel by car, I always take a cooler because I bring food from home. If one has medication to pack, that needs to be kept cool too (cars get hot fast). Wrecked an asthma inhaler that way... My FSG goes in the cooler. Even if I'm taking the train or flying somewhere, when I get there my FSG goes into a cooler once there - even if it's just a big travel mug and some ice. I have several commercial preservatives I can use, but I usually don't, or maybe I go for potassium sorbate, citric acid and EDTA.
Otherwise, Germall, Optiphen Plus, Suttocide are suitable, broad spectrum preservatives you can add according to the manufacturer's instructions. Tinosan is a good "natural sounding" one, but products made with it must be stored in opaque containers and kept cool (not cold, but also not hot) or it breaks down.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:53 PM   #14
 
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IAgirl your gelatin protein treatment is genius. I love to find a really high quality product and try to make a cheap version at home. I would have never thought to use gelatin for a protein treatment. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Day 1: Cowash and condition with AO GPB, ACV Rinse,
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Day 3: Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Coil Jam
Day 4: IAGirl's PT, KBB DT, FSG

Co-Kra gel is my own concoction of okra boiled in coconut milk. It is a cross between FSG and KCCC and leaves my hair very soft and shiny

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This looks genius!! I just wish it didn't have to be frozen I have to go away on trips, but I'd love to be able to use this in a bottle...
If you made this and bottled it with some type of preservative, I would buy it by the gallon!
Here's the link for BB's (okra) Mudd:
8oz All Natural Styling Mudd Custom by BotticelliBotanicals
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Ok. I have a question... Assume I make FSG and add no preservatives but keep in freezer until use. Do I need to be concerned about the gel going bad/ growing bacteria after it has been applied to my hair?
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Only if you went a couple of weeks without any kind of washing.
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Day 3: Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Coil Jam
Day 4: IAGirl's PT, KBB DT, FSG

Co-Kra gel is my own concoction of okra boiled in coconut milk. It is a cross between FSG and KCCC and leaves my hair very soft and shiny
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IAgirl your gelatin protein treatment is genius. I love to find a really high quality product and try to make a cheap version at home. I would have never thought to use gelatin for a protein treatment. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Aw, thanks. A few years ago, it would never have occurred to me to use gelatin on my hair either!
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Ok. I have a question... Assume I make FSG and add no preservatives but keep in freezer until use. Do I need to be concerned about the gel going bad/ growing bacteria after it has been applied to my hair?
no, because freezing severely slows down the growth rate of any bacteria. Hence, why you can still eat freezer food waaaay after you'd normally be able to eat fridge food. If there's any bacteria in the gel, it would take awhile for it to grow to an amount that you'd notice once on your hair. Assuming you're washing it out in a few days.
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Ok. I have a question... Assume I make FSG and add no preservatives but keep in freezer until use. Do I need to be concerned about the gel going bad/ growing bacteria after it has been applied to my hair?
no, because freezing severely slows down the growth rate of any bacteria. Hence, why you can still eat freezer food waaaay after you'd normally be able to eat fridge food. If there's any bacteria in the gel, it would take awhile for it to grow to an amount that you'd notice once on your hair. Assuming you're washing it out in a few days.
Hmmm -- I never freeze my FSG (I make small enough batches that I just keep refrigerated and then use up before it goes bad). So, I guess then that refrigeration is enough to slow down the growth rate of bacteria, too, huh? Hoping that's the case cuz freezing it would just be another step, and I like the system I've got going.
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