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Old 02-10-2012, 07:02 PM   #1
 
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Default a few questions about protein

First of all, I'm not CG, but I have cut back on how often I use shampoo. Some of my conditioners are cone-free, others not.

So, is there a big difference if the protein is in the shampoo versus in the conditioner? I was at my parents' house last week and used what seemed to be a protein rich shampoo and my hair liked it. Maybe I just needed protein and my hair was happy to get it through any source.

Also, does the need for protein change with the seasons? We all change up the routine at least a little as the weather changes, and I'm just wondering whether or not protein needs stay constant.

So the point of all this is... I realized that I don't have any conditioners with protein high on the ingredient list, so I have to go shopping. Any suggestions? Nothing too expensive. Drugstore, Sally's, Target.

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Old 02-11-2012, 11:17 AM   #2
 
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I'll try to answer as much as I can...
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First of all, I'm not CG, but I have cut back on how often I use shampoo. Some of my conditioners are cone-free, others not.

So, is there a big difference if the protein is in the shampoo versus in the conditioner? I was at my parents' house last week and used what seemed to be a protein rich shampoo and my hair liked it. Maybe I just needed protein and my hair was happy to get it through any source.
Sulfates open the hair cuticle (that's why a lot of curlies and wavies avoid them). Several years ago my stylist told me that hair will pick up more from shampoo, which makes sense now that I understand the cuticle lifting thing. That being said, I get most of my protein through actual protein treatments or in my styling products. I don't really look specifically at the protein in my conditioners because there I'm more concerned about moisture

Also, does the need for protein change with the seasons? We all change up the routine at least a little as the weather changes, and I'm just wondering whether or not protein needs stay constant.
This I'm not really sure of- I only started learning all of this in November, so I haven't been through a major change of season yet.

So the point of all this is... I realized that I don't have any conditioners with protein high on the ingredient list, so I have to go shopping. Any suggestions? Nothing too expensive. Drugstore, Sally's, Target.
At Sally's they have GVP Reconstructing Conditioner, which is a generic version of K-Pac. There's also a homemade PT recipe that was created by IAGirl that's very cheap and easy to make and gives great results. HTH
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:30 AM   #3
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I have heard that protein takes a little while to penetrate the hair shaft, therefore the most important protein items would be the one's you leave on the longest (stylers). That being said, I do find that my hair likes conditioners with proteins in them quite a bit. It helps with getting OC'ed. Also, supposedly you should reduce the amount of protein during the winter months and focus more on moisture. I have totally noticed this to be true, but still need weekly protein treatments and SOME protein daily. My hair in the summer/fall was a protein lovin' monster and now I have to be a little more careful or I get protein overload (never got this over the summer/fall, although that could be in part cuz my hair was more damaged then). HTH!
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My hair loves protein, in spread out doses. So I henna and then dock the protein way way down for a few weeks. But before I used henna, I would do a keratin treatment, and then back off again on protein products. The key is balance. If you get all excited and start over-using protein products your hair will start to get hard and crunchy so when you reach that point you'll know you've overdone it on protein.

I know most coconut conditioners contain a good amount of protein, and Sally's has a lot of little k-pak type treatments full of protein.

I'm not sure about seasonal changes because I've only been taking care of my hair since December. I'll have to wing it come summer! I'm in Texas so I'm sure my hair will need a different routine in 105 degree heat from June-September.
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