Hair not curling...brushing it straight again...help?

KCCC and KCKT are really good and have worked well in the past, but lately hair hasn't been curling or getting the volume it used to get. My curls are just limp and uneven. I tried throwing my wet hair over the pillow with AWESOME results, but now that doesn't work either. everything works well for a while...then just stops :/
I miss no-fail hair. I haven't had that in a long time.

Any suggestions? Tonight there were noooo curls on top and barely any on the bottom, so I just brushed it straight.

thanks!
Routine
Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

Techniques
  • combing to detangle and separate curls
  • scrunch 'n pump!
  • t-shirt turban
Hair coconut oil and protein
Hair silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
*November- above chin
*January- at chin
*March- around collarbone

Last edited by unicyclist; 03-16-2012 at 11:34 PM.
I completely understand what you're saying! (see, we are hair twins.) I posted for the first time in desperation about a month ago (Feeling like giving up...), and got some good advice. Also have been scouring this board way more than ever before, trying to find ideas that may help. Currently I am convinced I need sulfate shampoos a couple times per week (I know, gasp) and I think possibly more protein. I tried IAGirl's PT treatment once so far and it didn't go great, but I put honey in there before realizing what a mistake that is in this low dew point state I live in. I want to try this again without honey and see if it helps, and want to try to find a conditioner with protein to see what that does. I also am growing my hair back out enough that I can pull it up on bad hair days, because I can't take walking around with limp, messy, uneven curls anymore. Anyway, this is probably more sympathy than anything... but maybe try sulfates and/or protein if your hair is feeling limp? And if you find anything that works fantastically, be sure to tell me!
How often do you wash? I have the same problem and I found it was helped by cutting back on protein (my guess is a protein imbalance in either direction might do this) but then I noticed it also happens when I'm just plain washing my hair too much.
Many of us rotate products, just for that reason. Back in the day when I only used shampoo/conditioner every day, I had to switch things up every two weeks or so. Otherwise my hair would be limp. When I started on nc.com, I was a winter wavy/summer 3a--no root curl at all. Learning to use products and the right techniques, my hair now looks like my signature picture every day.

I'd suggest finding a few other products to put in your rotation. I wet, use a rinse out and style every day. I seldom let myself use any product more then once in a week.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix and CCCC
I'm going to second the idea of adding protein, but also add something that I've seen kathymack post several times. Sometimes hair just needs some product rotation. Between dew points and cleansing schedules, it makes sense that your hair's needs aren't the same every single day, so products that work really well under some conditions might not seem to work at all under other conditions. Dew points could especially be a factor as we approach spring.

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3a/f/iii
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
Thanks for the advice, everyone! I did a DT/PT with an egg yolk, a banana, and some coconut oil. I shampooed it outnwith Come Clean and detangled and left in a tonnnnn if KCKT. It's drying now, so I guess I will see...

Inhave Fairy Tales Energizing Leave-in. Do you think I should use that as a protein treatment?
Routine
Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

Techniques
  • combing to detangle and separate curls
  • scrunch 'n pump!
  • t-shirt turban
Hair coconut oil and protein
Hair silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
*November- above chin
*January- at chin
*March- around collarbone
I think the DT/PT helped a little...
I think I am going back to cowashing but clarifying once to twice a week.
Thanks again!
Routine
Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

Techniques
  • combing to detangle and separate curls
  • scrunch 'n pump!
  • t-shirt turban
Hair coconut oil and protein
Hair silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
*November- above chin
*January- at chin
*March- around collarbone
Have you ever tried IAGirl's PT treatment that uses gelatin? She says that hair is better able to take up this protein compared to other sources (I presume that includes sources like egg yolk). You may want to give it a try for a stronger PT treatment, or even try some of the more expensive store-bought varieties (Nexxus emergencee, Aphogee, ...).

Also, have you ever tried Queen Helene's curling creme? This reminds me a lot of KCCC but with different ingredients and far less 'sticky' (lots of glycerin though which is not good in low dew points). But may be worth trying since you generally like KCCC, just to have another product to rotate through... (and it's fairly cheap, under $8 for a big tub).

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