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03-18-2012, 12:00 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 74
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Has anyone seen this?
Interesting concept:
http://hairscapades.files.wordpress..../sdc128801.jpg
Tips & Tricks: Number Two
Several years ago, my youngest sister gave me a couple little deep conditioning tips. You see, I had been ogling the Ouidad Deep Treatment, because I had been reading so many rave reviews about it. However, the joker was $50 for 8 ounces (8.5 now)!!! I just couldn’t see myself spending that much for a conditioner. *$18 for 8 ounces of Carol’s Daughter Tui Hair Smoothie was already hurting my wallet!!
So, my sister says to me one day, “I don’t think it’s the conditioner per se, I think it might be the technique.” She tells me to allow my DC to cool for 15 minutes after I remove the heat source and then, put my regular daily conditioner over the DC before*rinsing them both. Well, I tried this shortly thereafter and it really seemed to make a difference in how my hair felt after rinsing the DC!! You know how your hair will feel great with conditioner in it? But some conditioners, once rinsed, don’t seem to leave any of the benefits you felt while they were in your hair? Well, after rinsing using this technique with the Carol’s Daughter Tui Smoothie and some Pantene (I think) my hair felt smoother, more supple and as if the moisture from the DC was better retained.
These are the actual directions for the deep treatment from Ouidad.com:
1. Completely saturate clean, damp hair with 2 oz. of treatment on shoulder length hair – a bit more on longer hair.
2. Cover with a shower cap and heat with blow dryer. Allow warm product to remain for 12 minutes.
3. Before rinsing out, add a conditioner to hair. Then rinse both products; allow a little coating to remain.
Under the Deep Treatment section of the Styling Guide,*it indicates,*”Before rinsing, add a daily conditioner to seal in the treatment”*(emphasis added).*My guess is that allowing the DC to cool is recommended based upon the same principle as using cool water to rinse conditioner. As heat will raise the cuticle layer, allowing the hair to cool after removing the heat source facilitates the relaxing/closing of that layer. Then, applying a daily conditioner over the DC somehow helps to further seal the moisturizing agents of the DC into the hair strand like using an oil or butter to seal a water-based moisturizer! That’s just my conjecture.
Anywho, I’ve been employing a modified version of this technique for many years now with much success. Since the beginning of the year, my weekly DC regimen has been as follows:
Section hair into 4.
Apply approximately 2 ounces of DC of choice *(currently, Darcy’s Botanical Pumpkin Seed Conditioner or Shea Moisture Raw Shea Moisture Retention Deep Treatment Masque)*to wet, but not dripping, hair (or 0.5 ounces per section). I ensure the section is thoroughly covered with DC and then twist it until I have four DC covered twists.
Gather four twists together and use rounded-tooth jaw clip to secure ends near top of head and don plastic cap.
Apply *heat for a minimum of one hour (usually a Winter hat).
Remove heat source and allow hair to cool for a minimum of 15 minutes.
While hair is cooling, dilute about a half ounce to one ounce of daily conditioner (currently, Aussie Moist) with approximately 6 ounces of filtered cool water in a dye applicator bottle (I dilute the conditioner because I thought the instructions said a “conditioning rinse.” I’ve applied the daily conditioner full strength in the past, but didn’t notice any reduced benefit when I began diluting it. So, I continue to do so, since it allows me to extend product!)
In shower or sink, pour entire bottle of diluted conditioner over twists, fully saturating them.
Rinse conditioner with cold or cool water (if in sink, I rinse from side to side, never upside down). Rinse well, but not “squeaky clean.”
I believe that one of the major reasons that my hair retains length and stays well-moisturized throughout the week is due to a consistent DC regimen. Though I know there is controversy out there related to deep conditioning and deep conditioning with heat, I’ve always noticed improved hair health and length retention when I deep condition at least once a month. I have achieved the longest hair I’ve ever had in my life since I began DC’ing every time I wash, which is typically once a week.
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I Have The Wickedest Wurly's Ever, Ugh!! 2c top/3a bottom
Until I get my hair analysis back, I think:
Texture: Medium
Porosity: Over porous
Elasticity: Normal
Density: Normal=ii
My quest: 20 minute showers and normal amounts of co!!!
CG since 2/26/12-Protein Hater
Cowash: Suave Naturals (except coconut)
RO & LI: GV 50:50/Tresseme Naturals
Gel/mousse: HESMU & HETT
Last edited by WickedWurlys; 03-18-2012 at 12:03 AM.
Reason: Insert text
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03-18-2012, 05:36 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,074
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I've watched this blogger's videos before and like them, and I've *loved* adding heat to my DCs, but I hadn't seen this particular post. I just always rinse out my DC after I take the heat cap off, but this sounds interesting, so I'm gonna have to try it!
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3b / Fine / Low (to Med) Density / Normal Porosity & Elasticity
Currently Using [*Holy Grails*] Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / * BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!) : KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: * DM Super Buttercreme*
Goal: APL Hair
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03-18-2012, 06:41 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,508
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Interesting tip! I'm going to try it also. Anything that helps my hair retain moisture gets a thumbs up from me.
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2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Protein treatment HG: Curl Junkie Repair Me
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers:Curl Junkie CCCC or CCCL
in combo with a gel, usually KCCC
Trying Curl Keeper - still experimenting
Every day is a gift 
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03-18-2012, 09:48 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 74
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I know, I thought it was an interesting twist too. I'd be very curious to hear people's results!
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I Have The Wickedest Wurly's Ever, Ugh!! 2c top/3a bottom
Until I get my hair analysis back, I think:
Texture: Medium
Porosity: Over porous
Elasticity: Normal
Density: Normal=ii
My quest: 20 minute showers and normal amounts of co!!!
CG since 2/26/12-Protein Hater
Cowash: Suave Naturals (except coconut)
RO & LI: GV 50:50/Tresseme Naturals
Gel/mousse: HESMU & HETT
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03-18-2012, 10:00 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 814
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hmmm, heat for 1 hour? How would you go about doing that? I can't hold a blow dryer to my head for an hour, and the whole "warm towel" trick never works.
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CG Birthday: 7/25/11 Type 3a/2c Dense, Fine in front Coarse in back, Low porosity Low-Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo Rinse Out: Tresemme Naturals
Leave In: Suave Naturals Stylers: AIF, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse
*Desert Curly*
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03-18-2012, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,074
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? Did it say 1 hour? (Idk, I might have missed something.) My Hair Therapy heat cap definitely gives off heat for at least 20-25 minutes. I was figuring on just doing that amount of time and then letting my hair "cool off" for 15 minutes as described. I'm too impatient (read "lazy") to hold a blow drier for that long.
ETA -- !! It does say for 1 hour! Hmmm...Well, since she recommends this technique so highly, I'll give it a try for an hour.
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3b / Fine / Low (to Med) Density / Normal Porosity & Elasticity
Currently Using [*Holy Grails*] Cleansers: DC No-Poo / DC Low-Poo / * BaSo & ACV*
Co-Washes/ROs: CJ Beauticurls Argan & OO / DC OneC / Organicals DC Creme
Additives: *Silk Amino Acids* / Honeyquat / Fragrance Oils
LIs (found some!) : KCKT / CJ Beauticurls LI / CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Daily Condish
DTs: *Coconut Oil* rinses / *Honey*, EVOO, & DC OneC / CJ Curl Rehab
Sealer: * DM Super Buttercreme*
Goal: APL Hair
Last edited by Devushka; 03-18-2012 at 06:54 PM.
Reason: spelling & ETA
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03-18-2012, 11:06 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 365
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She did say she uses "a winter hat" maybe she just puts a knit cap over the whole thing.
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Be Happy!
Type:2b/3ab?
Texture:Medium/fine
Porosity:Normal
Elasticity:Normal
Experimenting with too many products to name here. All this great info keeps my head spinning.
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03-18-2012, 12:20 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,123
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I put a bag on my head then a winter hat over it - toasty warm!
I've done a hearing pad before, but if I'm going to leave it in for longer than 5-10 mins, bag and hat works wonders! I've even taken the bag off and slept in just the cap.
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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.
Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
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03-18-2012, 03:52 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 525
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I use a heating pad. I just lay it on my pillow, and cover it with a towel. Then I lay down and usually nap. When I wake up, voila! Heated DT, nap, and moisturized hair. Yea!
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How's My Hair?
Review: L'Oreal Evercreme Cleansing Conditioner
Review: Yes To Carrots Nourishing Shampoo & Pampering Conditioner + 35% off at YTC.com
3a-b, fine & medium texture, medium-high porosity from years of damaging. I'm addicted to changing my hair color.
Cleansing: No-Poo, Elucence MBS, YTC Poo,
Conditioner: One Condition, JC Too Shea!, YTC Condish, Elucence MBC, Joico Daily, KCKT
Styling: KCCC, LALPS, BRHG, Biotera Gel
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03-18-2012, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 74
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^^Brilliant!!
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I Have The Wickedest Wurly's Ever, Ugh!! 2c top/3a bottom
Until I get my hair analysis back, I think:
Texture: Medium
Porosity: Over porous
Elasticity: Normal
Density: Normal=ii
My quest: 20 minute showers and normal amounts of co!!!
CG since 2/26/12-Protein Hater
Cowash: Suave Naturals (except coconut)
RO & LI: GV 50:50/Tresseme Naturals
Gel/mousse: HESMU & HETT
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03-18-2012, 04:35 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 373
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Sounds like a good tip. Standard principle of sealing. I'm going to try this with my next deep condition
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03-18-2012, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 814
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:O a heating pad?!?! Brilliant!
Sheesh, why can't I think of things like this....
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CG Birthday: 7/25/11 Type 3a/2c Dense, Fine in front Coarse in back, Low porosity Low-Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo Rinse Out: Tresemme Naturals
Leave In: Suave Naturals Stylers: AIF, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse
*Desert Curly*
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03-18-2012, 05:09 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 691
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This last time I did a PT and DT I wrapped my plastic wrapped head in a towel (turban style where it twists at the top of your head) and stuck a heating pad in between the flap of the towel and my head. My head stayed very toasty. :]
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CG as of Feb. 2012 combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.
products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
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03-18-2012, 05:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,096
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I found a dryer attachment at Sally's- it's basically a fabric-y bonnet. I attach it to my dryer and relax.
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3a/f/iii Before the chop- Donated to Locks of Love, January 2013
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CO-WASH: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo
CLARIFY: CHS Treatment Shampoo (used prior to PT/DT)
RO: DevaCare One Condition, Regis Olive Oil
LI: Cure Care, As I Am Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Biotera Gel, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, GVP Liquid Sculpting Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse
PT/DT: IAGirl's PT, One n' Only Argan Hydrating Mask
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03-18-2012, 06:10 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 74
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^^Love that idea. Considered buying a portable heat bonnet (i.e., smaller/cheaper version of the ones st the hair dressers), but just didn't want to lose the space when not in use. That sounds like a great alternative!
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I Have The Wickedest Wurly's Ever, Ugh!! 2c top/3a bottom
Until I get my hair analysis back, I think:
Texture: Medium
Porosity: Over porous
Elasticity: Normal
Density: Normal=ii
My quest: 20 minute showers and normal amounts of co!!!
CG since 2/26/12-Protein Hater
Cowash: Suave Naturals (except coconut)
RO & LI: GV 50:50/Tresseme Naturals
Gel/mousse: HESMU & HETT
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03-18-2012, 06:16 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,096
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I love it. It really isn't meant for drying hair, but it's perfect for my PTs and DTs.
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3a/f/iii Before the chop- Donated to Locks of Love, January 2013
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CO-WASH: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo
CLARIFY: CHS Treatment Shampoo (used prior to PT/DT)
RO: DevaCare One Condition, Regis Olive Oil
LI: Cure Care, As I Am Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Biotera Gel, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, GVP Liquid Sculpting Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse
PT/DT: IAGirl's PT, One n' Only Argan Hydrating Mask
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03-19-2012, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 286
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I'm definitely trying this next time I deep condition. Thanks!
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