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Old 03-19-2012, 08:19 PM   #1
 
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Default Possible GFTN and GFSAS Replacements!

Hey everyone, just wanted to alert you all that I found something that could work as a replacement for our beloved and sadly siliconeified GFSAS and GFTN. Renpure Organics has released two new lines, Brazilian Keratin and Argan Oil. They both contain moisturizing ingredients, such as oils, fatty alcohols, etc; and are free of silicones, parabens, gluten and otherwise harsh chemicals. The shampoos, styling products and such in the lines also look very promising. I gave a more detailed post over in the product review forum:

Attention GFSAS/GFTN lovers -- Renpure Organics as a possible replacement!

And I just wanted to let you all know, because I'm super excited about this discovery and I know a lot of people are in quite the panic! Good luck everyone, please let me know how these products work for you!
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LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:25 PM   #2
 
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Thanks for the heads up!! I'll have to watch for these and give it a shot!

I'll probably go for the argan over the keratin - the word "straightening" just doesn't sit well... Lol!!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:27 PM   #3
 
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Thanks for the heads up!! I'll have to watch for these and give it a shot!

I'll probably go for the argan over the keratin - the word "straightening" just doesn't sit well... Lol!!
I was thinking the same thing. I just saw one ingredient that I wanted to Google because it had the word "silicone" in it and it automatically made me cringe.

ETA: a quick Google search eliminated my concern. Woohoo!!
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Haha, see, I love a loose and smooth look for my waves (my hair is so strange -- depending on how I apply product, I can have either big loose waves or huge ringlety spirals), so I tend to go for smoothing and straightening products. So it doesn't bother me But I can see the concern, since most curly girls DO want curl enhancement!

I'm super anxious to try the argan oil one. It sounds so perfect; to be honest I really only went for the Brazilian Keratin one because my RiteAid didn't have the Argan Oil :/ I'll pick some up this weekend when I have time to hop around from drugstore to drugstore, hehee.

But I really hope you all like these products as much as I did! I'm so excited about it. I was really going to be lost without my GFSAS, but this makes me feel better.
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RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:53 PM   #5
 
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Lol! Yes, do let us know how it works if you do try it this weekend!!

I'm eager to try it - but also wary, too - what if I fall in love and they go and reformulate?? Lol!! Or discontinue it??

See, Garnier?? You've damaged me!!!
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:00 PM   #6
 
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Lol! Yes, do let us know how it works if you do try it this weekend!!

I'm eager to try it - but also wary, too - what if I fall in love and they go and reformulate?? Lol!! Or discontinue it??

See, Garnier?? You've damaged me!!!
Haha-- it's like a terrible ex-boyfriend that has ruined us for our future loves! But, that's ok because we have the wonderful Renpure to step up, be a true man and heal the wounds... *wistful sigh*
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LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!
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Hey everyone, just wanted to alert you all that I found something that could work as a replacement for our beloved and sadly siliconeified GFSAS and GFTN. Renpure Organics has released two new lines, Brazilian Keratin and Argan Oil. They both contain moisturizing ingredients, such as oils, fatty alcohols, etc; and are free of silicones, parabens, gluten and otherwise harsh chemicals. The shampoos, styling products and such in the lines also look very promising. I gave a more detailed post over in the product review forum:

Attention GFSAS/GFTN lovers -- Renpure Organics as a possible replacement!

And I just wanted to let you all know, because I'm super excited about this discovery and I know a lot of people are in quite the panic! Good luck everyone, please let me know how these products work for you!
Thanks for the post, really want to try this now! I guess ill have to add another product to my wish list. BTW im curious about the low poo, does it have amodimethicone it it? Thats what discouraged me from buying the red bottle eventhough all the other ingredients were great.
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Serum-like product: still need one
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I think I'm normal-overly porous, medium-thick hair(although I see fine hair too), love protein
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:13 PM   #8
 
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The Argan Oil Luxurious Shampoo and the Brazilian Keratin Straightening Shampoo both have Silicone Quaternium-17, which as far as I know, is a water soluble silicone.

Argan Oil Shampoo: Purified Water, Cocamidopropyl Betaine (Coconut Oil*), Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate (Coconut Oil*), Lauryl Glucoside (Coconut Oil*), Decyl Glucoside (Coconut Oil*), Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate (Palm Oil*), PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate (Rapeseed Oil*), Argania Spinosa (Argan) Kernel Oil, Hypnea Musciformis Extract (Red Seaweed*), Gellidiela Acerosa Extract (Red Alga*), Sargassum Filipendula Extract (Brown Seaweed*), Sobitol (Sugar*), Silicone Quaternium-17, Glycol Stearate (Palm Oil*), Polyquaternium-10, Citric Acid, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance. (* Derived Source)

Brazilian Keratin Straightening Shampoo: Ingredients: Purified Water, Cocamidopropyl Betaine (Coconut Oil*), Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate (Coconut Oil*), Lauryl Glucoside (Coconut Oil*), Decyl Glucoside (Coconut Oil*), Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate (Palm Oil*), PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate (Rapeseed Oil*), Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Hydrolyzed Pea (Keratin) Protein, Psidium Guajava (Guava) Fruit Extract, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Oil, Silicone Quaternium-17, Glycol Stearate (Palm Oil*), Polyquaternium-10, Citric Acid, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance. (* Derived Source)
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The Argan Oil Luxurious Shampoo and the Brazilian Keratin Straightening Shampoo both have Silicone Quaternium-17, which as far as I know, is a water soluble silicone.

Argan Oil Shampoo: Purified Water, Cocamidopropyl Betaine (Coconut Oil*), Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate (Coconut Oil*), Lauryl Glucoside (Coconut Oil*), Decyl Glucoside (Coconut Oil*), Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate (Palm Oil*), PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate (Rapeseed Oil*), Argania Spinosa (Argan) Kernel Oil, Hypnea Musciformis Extract (Red Seaweed*), Gellidiela Acerosa Extract (Red Alga*), Sargassum Filipendula Extract (Brown Seaweed*), Sobitol (Sugar*), Silicone Quaternium-17, Glycol Stearate (Palm Oil*), Polyquaternium-10, Citric Acid, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance. (* Derived Source)

Brazilian Keratin Straightening Shampoo: Ingredients: Purified Water, Cocamidopropyl Betaine (Coconut Oil*), Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate (Coconut Oil*), Lauryl Glucoside (Coconut Oil*), Decyl Glucoside (Coconut Oil*), Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate (Palm Oil*), PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate (Rapeseed Oil*), Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Hydrolyzed Pea (Keratin) Protein, Psidium Guajava (Guava) Fruit Extract, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Oil, Silicone Quaternium-17, Glycol Stearate (Palm Oil*), Polyquaternium-10, Citric Acid, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance. (* Derived Source)
Thanks for the ingredient list and i was leaning towards argan oil since its sounds the more CG of the two, i am now thinking maybe the brazilian keratin shampoo due to the protein in it.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:32 PM   #10
 
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Ok... This may sound stupid... But the keratin one is in a line of straightening products. Is that going to affect curl pattern, formation, definition, etc?

That's why I'm leaning toward the argan. At least for the consish - I already have a good low-poo, tho I'm willing to try others, of course.
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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Ok... This may sound stupid... But the keratin one is in a line of straightening products. Is that going to affect curl pattern, formation, definition, etc?

That's why I'm leaning toward the argan. At least for the consish - I already have a good low-poo, tho I'm willing to try others, of course.
Yea that's what scares me and makes me not want to buy any products with straightening in the label. As far as I can see both argon oil and keratin have very similar ingredients except for the protein so I doubt it will change it. I think they just wrote that because of the added protein but my hair loves protein so it's a bonus to me
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Cannot wait for the results to be posted! Wonder what would happen if we all wrote a nastygram to GF to let them know we want the old back & won't buy the new. I betcha if everyone who used it did a quick email, they would bring back the old...just a thought.
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Oops, was just reading the other thread on this and saw Steph suggested rmailing the company too...great minds that are grumpy are thinking alike
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Someone DID write them. The response was generic. I'm sure Garnier couldn't care less what we think. :/
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Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
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PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
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It's very easy to ignore one letter, because I'm sure they get the odd, random complaint all the time. The key would be for lots of people to comment on the same thing. That would get their attention, even if the reply letter was still generic.

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If you look at the volume of the people just on this site that use it is quite substantial. If we all wrote them and when their sales numbers reflect that, maybe they would reconsider?
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My quest: 20 minute showers and normal amounts of co!!!
CG since 2/26/12-Protein Hater
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I just got on their website and the "contact us" wouldn't work. So I created an account with them and tried it again. It still didn't work. So, I went to their Facebook page and posted that myself & hundreds of others wouldn't be buying their products until the cones are removed.

I wonder how long that post will last on their wall, lol
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Until I get my hair analysis back, I think:
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My quest: 20 minute showers and normal amounts of co!!!
CG since 2/26/12-Protein Hater
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If you look at the volume of the people just on this site that use it is quite substantial. If we all wrote them and when their sales numbers reflect that, maybe they would reconsider?
You would hope, but I doubt it. They would recommend their Pure Clean line. They might consider expanding that line. But as far as undoing their reformulation - doubtful. Even if 500 people on here use it and wrote in (which I would guess is probably estimating pretty high), that still wouldn't make that much of a dent in their sales. And, they'll assume that half of us will come around.

Stupid Garnier.
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Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
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Heck, I'd be happy w/that under whatever name, as long as it worked!
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Until I get my hair analysis back, I think:
Texture: Medium
Porosity: Over porous
Elasticity: Normal
Density: Normal=ii
My quest: 20 minute showers and normal amounts of co!!!
CG since 2/26/12-Protein Hater
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So how does everyone like the Kertatin line? Right now, my rinse out/co-wash is Cure Care, which I loooove! It has kertain in it, but it doesn't straighten my hair, just makes it sooo soft.
Does the Renpure straighten your hair?
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