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03-24-2012, 04:35 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 878
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Got another haircut, need 2nd day hair tips
Ive had my current angled cut since September & it had lost all its shape and gotten bulky on the sides, so last night I had my stylist take it about 2" up, angle it a little sharper, and shorten the shortest layer in hopes of boosting volume. I LOVE IT! I fixed it as soon as I got home and it does exactly what I hoped it would and I couldnt stop staring at it. For someone who hung onto BSL hair for a decade, I cannot believe I've become a short hair convert lol!
That being said, my 2nd day hair up to this point has been a ponytail. I cant get the elusive 2nd day hair for anything. And now I have to learn, because its too short pull up. I really dont want to have to do my routine every.single.morning because i dislike getting up that early. When it was longer I never could pineapple because my hair gets ponytail dents too easily & itd pull out the curl. Spritzing/refreshing just seems to cause frizz. So far, Ive had to get it soaking wet or i dont like how it turns out. I dont have a satin pillowcase, i know I need one. IDK - anyone have any failsafe tips?
Attached is pics
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fine, thin, normal porosity. Non-CG, but I treat it with TLC. I can't co-wash more than 1x a week, & I have to use T-Gel in rotation due to scalp issues.
Poo: T-Gel (SLES), Burt's Bees Grapefruit (sodium coco-sulfate)
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal
LI: KCKT
PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone)
Gels: SCC spray gel, Ouidad Climate Control (d-cone)
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03-24-2012, 06:00 PM
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#2
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 814
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ah! I love your hair! For the past few years I've been in the mindset of getting m hair as long as possible (it's below BSL when dry/curly) but recently I've begun to wonder if I should cut it shorter.... but I'm one of those "buyer's remorse" type people
But I really, really like your cut....
Have you tried plopping overnight? I don't know how that'd work for someone with shorter hair, but it's worth an experiment. Lately I've been sleeping with my hair down (sacrilegious, I know) with a satin bandanna-cover thing my mom found at a store for cheap. I put that on just to protect that back of my head, and it's been fairly decent.
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CG Birthday: 7/25/11 Type 3a/2c Dense, Fine in front Coarse in back, Low porosity Low-Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo Rinse Out: Tresemme Naturals
Leave In: Suave Naturals Stylers: AIF, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse
*Desert Curly*
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03-24-2012, 06:36 PM
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#3
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 878
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Thanks! What do you plop with? I tend to plop for just long enough for me to put lotion & a tee shirt on before I start diffusing - any longer & i get wonky curls, & ive been using a flour sack towel but i think they still feel a bit too rough. Maybe a tee shirt? Or a satin wrap of some sort - i bet thats actually a really good idea to try...but i just dont see how i wouldnt end up with bendy squashed pieces everywhere? Maybe when its already dry it wouldnt affect the curls so much as when its wet. Ive always slept with my hair down, so if thats sacreligious in a curly world... OOPS. I just cant tie it back without having that "ponytail dent" form within 5 minutes.
I was afraid I'd regret cutting it too but I was SO ready for a change & for some of my old flatiron damage to be gone. When i first cut my decade-old BSL hair I cut 7" all at once I was so nervous but I swear I have not regretted it once!
Sent from my PG06100 using CurlTalk App
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fine, thin, normal porosity. Non-CG, but I treat it with TLC. I can't co-wash more than 1x a week, & I have to use T-Gel in rotation due to scalp issues.
Poo: T-Gel (SLES), Burt's Bees Grapefruit (sodium coco-sulfate)
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal
LI: KCKT
PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone)
Gels: SCC spray gel, Ouidad Climate Control (d-cone)
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03-24-2012, 06:45 PM
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#4
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 407
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I take showers at night soi always tend to do an overnight plop and it works well with my hair wet. I use a long sleeve shirt that's 100% Cotten. I think the best way to avoid squished curls would be to try and arrange all the curls on the top of your head so when you sleep it's not directly under your head and getting squished. Hope this helps
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Lo-poo  rganix Shea butter shampoo
Co-wash: suave coconut
Rinse out:GFTN/GVP conditioning balm
Leave in: GF daily care spray leave in
Serum-like product: still need one
Gel:LA looks sport gel/ HESMU,GFPC
Oils: olive, coconut
I think I'm normal-overly porous, medium-thick hair(although I see fine hair too), love protein
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03-24-2012, 07:12 PM
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#5
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 878
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Im gonna have to try some sort of plop/wrap overnight i think, but what if i cant arrange all the curls on top of my head because only the longer pieces and the very top canopy layer reach the top of my head?
Sent from my PG06100 using CurlTalk App
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fine, thin, normal porosity. Non-CG, but I treat it with TLC. I can't co-wash more than 1x a week, & I have to use T-Gel in rotation due to scalp issues.
Poo: T-Gel (SLES), Burt's Bees Grapefruit (sodium coco-sulfate)
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal
LI: KCKT
PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone)
Gels: SCC spray gel, Ouidad Climate Control (d-cone)
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03-24-2012, 07:22 PM
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#6
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 407
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I don't have short hair so I can't really say lol but maybe you can try sleeping on your side to attempt to avoid sleeping on your curls.
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Lo-poo  rganix Shea butter shampoo
Co-wash: suave coconut
Rinse out:GFTN/GVP conditioning balm
Leave in: GF daily care spray leave in
Serum-like product: still need one
Gel:LA looks sport gel/ HESMU,GFPC
Oils: olive, coconut
I think I'm normal-overly porous, medium-thick hair(although I see fine hair too), love protein
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03-24-2012, 08:47 PM
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#7
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,088
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I love the new cut! I can't offer much in terms of second day hair advice because I normally don't get to attempt it most days. What has work for me is lightly spritzing with water, scrunching in a little bit of mousse to get the curls going, and using a little bit of CIAB to smooth down the frizzies.
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3a/f/iii Before the chop- Donated to Locks of Love, January 2013
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CO-WASH: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo
CLARIFY: CHS Treatment Shampoo (used prior to PT/DT)
RO: DevaCare One Condition, Regis Olive Oil
LI: Cure Care, As I Am Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Biotera Gel, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, GVP Liquid Sculpting Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse
PT/DT: IAGirl's PT, One n' Only Argan Hydrating Mask
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03-24-2012, 09:03 PM
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#8
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 205
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product
I am suddenly achieving fantastic 2nd day hair after seeing a curly hair specialist. I use a product called Pravana Curves Curl activator on the first day on damp/wet but not soaking, dripping wet hair, and nothing else. Some nights I do a loose pineapple with a cloth-covered band. On the second day, I smooth it a bit with a small amt. of water and a leave-in condish and then apply more Pravana Curves. It works like a charm!! And no, I do not sell or have stock in this company. LOL. Just have to share b/c my 2nd day hair has never been like this before. I do have to redo my bangs a bit, but that's ok.
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2B no longer damaged!
Modified CG since 6/11
Low Poo: SheaMoisture Raw Shea Butter Moisture Retention shampoo, CJ Daily Fix
Co-Wash: V05 Moisture Milk Naturals Strawberry, DevaCurl No Poo
Rinse Out: CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner
DT: CJ Rehab
Stylers: Used to do KCCC, followed by BRHG, but Pravana Curves Curl Enhancer with a leave-in under is my new HG!!!!
SOTC: with Lush R&B or CJ CIAB
Methods: Spritz & Condish, occasional ACV rinses
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03-24-2012, 09:03 PM
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#9
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 205
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oh and your hair is adorable!
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2B no longer damaged!
Modified CG since 6/11
Low Poo: SheaMoisture Raw Shea Butter Moisture Retention shampoo, CJ Daily Fix
Co-Wash: V05 Moisture Milk Naturals Strawberry, DevaCurl No Poo
Rinse Out: CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner
DT: CJ Rehab
Stylers: Used to do KCCC, followed by BRHG, but Pravana Curves Curl Enhancer with a leave-in under is my new HG!!!!
SOTC: with Lush R&B or CJ CIAB
Methods: Spritz & Condish, occasional ACV rinses
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03-25-2012, 11:47 PM
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#10
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 814
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I've always plopped with a long sleeved tee I have, and to avoid squishing the curls I try to get them as on-top of my head as possible. If you can feel the blood rushing to your face as you're plopping, you're doing it right :P. Though sometimes I'll get some smooshed ones.
Have you ever heard of one of those sleeping cloth tube things? I have no clue what they're really called, they look like stretchy cloth tubes that you put over your hair at night. I saw a video on YT of this girl with really awesome and big type 4 hair and she put her hair up in one of those and the cloth alone kept her hair up vertically. Maybe one of those could work for you? No indents
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CG Birthday: 7/25/11 Type 3a/2c Dense, Fine in front Coarse in back, Low porosity Low-Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo Rinse Out: Tresemme Naturals
Leave In: Suave Naturals Stylers: AIF, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse
*Desert Curly*
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03-26-2012, 08:24 AM
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#11
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 365
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I searched "hair tubes" and came up with 2 links:
A Grl Can Mac: Hair Tubes
Virtuous Creations Natural Hair Accessories
Looks like they could be made from t-shirt cotton or another stretchy material fairly easily.
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Be Happy!
Type:2b/3ab?
Texture:Medium/fine
Porosity:Normal
Elasticity:Normal
Experimenting with too many products to name here. All this great info keeps my head spinning.
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03-26-2012, 09:35 AM
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#12
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 814
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Yes! that's totally it! I guess you could make them yourself, couldn't you? Hmmm.... off to grab sewing machine....
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CG Birthday: 7/25/11 Type 3a/2c Dense, Fine in front Coarse in back, Low porosity Low-Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo Rinse Out: Tresemme Naturals
Leave In: Suave Naturals Stylers: AIF, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse
*Desert Curly*
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03-27-2012, 09:53 AM
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#13
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 878
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Thanks for all the tips!! I'm off to check out these hair tube thingies....
ETA - you could totally make those yourself. I wonder if I could find a really wide cloth headband of some sort and stitch a couple together.
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fine, thin, normal porosity. Non-CG, but I treat it with TLC. I can't co-wash more than 1x a week, & I have to use T-Gel in rotation due to scalp issues.
Poo: T-Gel (SLES), Burt's Bees Grapefruit (sodium coco-sulfate)
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal
LI: KCKT
PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone)
Gels: SCC spray gel, Ouidad Climate Control (d-cone)
Last edited by lcl0706; 03-27-2012 at 09:56 AM.
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