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Thank you so much! I do read the labels but then I get lost because I get confused at whats good and whats bad and then since money is an issue I say damn I have to get it bc its so cheap and I have no other option. Im cleraly just dumb when it comes to picking out the product but I am going to try harder at making sure none of my products have that nasty crap I am also going to make a list of the bad stuff, leave it in my purse, so when I am searching for the good stuff I know what to do when reading the label.
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
When you do your last sulfate wash, I would strongly recommend a clarifying shampoo with the ingredient "sodium lauryl sulfate", which is the harshest sulfate out there. I just came back from the shower washing my hair with a clarifying shampoo that has the harsh ingredient I just mentioned, and so I'm quite confident that any silicones that was in my hair is pretty much gone and dead.

After that last wash, go ahead and apply the CG friendly conditioner. There are so many ingridients out there, you're right... so I'll make this simple once more: Anything that ends in -cones, -xanes, -colons, -fates or -phates should NEVER touch your hair once you go CG. Ever. No ifs, ands, or buts. I thought my hair was doing good until I realize that my "flyaway frizz" problem that I kept having was from that DAMN Garnier conditioner that I thought was CG friendly but it looks like it's suddenly not anymore. Be careful, I say!

The Curly Girl book by Lorraine Massey stresses on only buying two essential items: A conditioner and styling gel. That's another thing... Your hair gel should NOT have silicones (again), and it should also be alcohol free, and have little-to-no fragrance. A clear tinted gel is preferred. An ideal gel should have these two ingredients (I have used a CG friendly gel before without these ingredients and had no issues, but just in case): PVP (polyvinylpyrrolidone) and PVP/VA (vinyl acrylate)

You do not have to waste a lot of money to buy CG friendly products. You can find them in your local drugstore without blowing a hole in your wallet. That's what I'm trying to do and so far my hair and wallet are cheerful.

Good luck!
Originally Posted by whirlyhair
Thank you for clarifying that for me. I will do so, I also bought the treseme naturals and will do that after I wash my hair with the sulfate shampoo.
eta: If yuou cant return the conditioner, silicone-y conditioners make great shaving lotions! No need for it to go to waste!
omg, yes! I haven't used shaving cream in almost two years...any conditioner i don't like becomes my new shaving cream (i think they actually work better than most creams, i haven't cut myself once since doing this!).
Originally Posted by triple_spiral
will do! Thanks for the tip
Also try and be patient with your hair. I'm a year in and I still want to shave it off pretty regularly. It took a good 3-4 months before my hair got used to the changes I was making and stopped fighting with me. It does get better but the one thing I learned is sometimes simple is best. I wasted too much money trying to find all the "perfect" products for my hair only to find that once my hair was healthy it hated the products. I wish I had concentrated more on not using silicones, parabens, and sulfates and making sure my hair was moisturized before I tried to find the HG products. Now I have a bunch of products that don't work for me and all because I paid attention to getting the best before I even knew anything about my hair.
Originally Posted by curlangel0690
Thanks so much, youre right. Its so frustrating so sometimes I just want to give up, but that is why i am so happy to be here and have all these beautiful and wonderful curly girls like yourself to help me.
oh also, use the product search. Make it your best friend. Seriously. That feature on the site has saved me time at buying product. Do your research at home, write down the product you want, go to the store, quickly check the back and buy.

I always hear stories of girls taking pages and pages and pages of ingredients to avoid with them to the store, when it's completely unnecessary. You'll look ridiculous, and believe it or not the store employees will see it as fishy when you're hanging around 1 section for 30 minutes. Everything you need is at your finger tips if you use the product search.

Also, read read read read read siggies. There's a good handful of CG products that are routinely used by others on NC.
Originally Posted by SaraNoH
Thank you so much! That is so true bc I serisously can not be standing in an aisle examining each and every product. Much better on my spare time at home!
Cheap and good products

1.) VO5 moisture milk ($1)

2.) Suave ($2.87)

3.) Suave naturals ($1)

4.) Aussie ($3)

Stylers:
Try Kinky Curly curling custard and Knot today both about $12

Eco styler gel is BIG and only $4
Very good definer!!

Also, get headbands, bows, hats. To distract bad hair days


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I was going to suggest Suave or VO5. The great thing about the 99 cent shampoos and conditioners are that you can use them for shaving, washing delicate clothing or a body wash. And you can try several and it's not going to cost too much.
It's should also been noted that full on CG isn't for everyone. There a lot of ladies on the boards who are modified CG, meaning they use water soluble cones, and/or low poo on a regular basis. I fall more into a modified category than a full CG one. My hair looks better that way, and although I'm still careful about ingredients I don't have to start all over if I miss something. Since I low poo, it doesn't matter if I use cones occasionally, my low poo will get rid of them anyway.

OP you really haven't been CG very long, and as hard as it may be to hear, sometimes it takes a while for your hair to adjust to no sulfates, and to get properly moisturized. Hang in there, it does get easier. Learn as much as you can about your hair; what it likes or doesn't, it's texture, etc., and once you do it makes the rest of it a lot easier to figure out.
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Cheap and good products

1.) VO5 moisture milk ($1)

2.) Suave ($2.87)

3.) Suave naturals ($1)

4.) Aussie ($3)

Stylers:
Try Kinky Curly curling custard and Knot today both about $12

Eco styler gel is BIG and only $4
Very good definer!!

Also, get headbands, bows, hats. To distract bad hair days


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Originally Posted by Lovethesecurls
I could be wrong, but doesn't Aussie stuff have cones?

That said I've tried everything on this list one way or another, all of it is pretty good! I would add LA Looks and La Bella gels to the cheap stylers list (about 3/4 dollars for a big tub).


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- Cleanser: CJ Daily Fix or KC Come Clean
- Co-wash: Suave Naturals or V05
- RO: GVP Conditioning Balm or Tresemme Naturals
-Stylers: Garnier Pure Clean Gel, CJ Aloe Fix, KCCC


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Cheap and good products

1.) VO5 moisture milk ($1)

2.) Suave ($2.87)

3.) Suave naturals ($1)

4.) Aussie ($3)

Stylers:
Try Kinky Curly curling custard and Knot today both about $12

Eco styler gel is BIG and only $4
Very good definer!!

Also, get headbands, bows, hats. To distract bad hair days


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Originally Posted by Lovethesecurls
I could be wrong, but doesn't Aussie stuff have cones?

That said I've tried everything on this list one way or another, all of it is pretty good! I would add LA Looks and La Bella gels to the cheap stylers list (about 3/4 dollars for a big tub).
Originally Posted by triple_spiral
Yes, I agree with all of these except I think some of the Aussie products have cones so you would need to search for specific products. Do you have any idea of what your hair qualities are? Is you hair fine, medium, or coarse texture? That's the actual hair strand, not how much hair you have(density). Also what is your porosity and elasticity? Those can help determine which products will work best with your hair.

As for a good cheap cowash, I personally like V05 Kiwi Lime. Also, for my rinse out, I have to echo everyone else and vote for Tresemme Naturals. My hair is fine so it doesn't like anything too heavy.
2b, fine texture, normal porosity & elasticity (CG as of 12/2011)

Low-poo: UFD Rich & Funky
Cowash: VO5 Kiwi Lime
RO: Tresemme Naturals, Aubrey Organics GPB, Ion Effective Care, MillCreek Keratin
PT/DT: IAgirl's PT, GVP CB
LI: KCKT, Cure Care, CJ CCCC Lite
Styling: Curl Keeper, As I Am Jelly, UFD Curly Magic, CJ Curl Queen, TIGI Strong Hold Mousse


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^^ day 1 of going CG; avatar = 6 months later
Thanks everyone! I bought tresseme
Naturals and maybe I will try la Bella gel bc that is super cheap for such a
big bottle. I definetly have fine hair. And idk what perosity is and how to tell what my hair is.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
Every single product that I am CURRENTLY putting in my hair has no harsh ingredients n it still looks like crap. Idk if I can take this anymore. I'm going to have a mental breakdown.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
You'll maybe need to give it a bit more time. I'd been flat-ironing my hair for about 18mths when I decided to go curly again and it was probably a good six mths before it started to look anything like decent (I had lots of ponytails in that six mths!).
3b in South Australia.
Aww, I feel for you Samanthascurlz, but hang on in there! I agree with Starmie, the 'transition' where your hair just doesn't seem to do what you want it to can take quite a while - it did for me also. Then, all of a sudden, things started to come right and after the long period of adjustment, I started to get the results I was hoping for. Maybe give it a while longer, and if you decide to modify, or find CG isn't for you, at least you've tried.

Best wishes.
UK Curly
Curl type : Boticelli, 3a, loose curls
Porosity : High
Texture : Fine/medium (I think!)
Co-wash/rinse out/leave in : L'oreal Full Restore 5, GFR&S, Schwarzkopf Bio Pomegranite
Gels : Umberto Giannini Flirty Curls Scrunching Jelly
Finish product : Boots Naked Style Frizz Fighter Serum or a pea-sized blob of condish smoothed over canopy
CG since Feb 2011
I agree with the rest of these ladies. It takes time. I also think its best to get your hair to a healthy point. I personally did not have a long transition stage. I had been wearin my hair curly for a while and rarely straightened except for my bangs and face framing pieces. I did color it waaaayyyy too much though and had a lot of damage.

I'm definitely a product junky and since going CG (kinda modified since I'm still experimenting) I've bought a lot of products (just don't tell the hubby how much everything cost!). I have a collection of drugstore gels, mousse, and curl creams and even some higher priced products like devacurl and Shea moisture.
CG as of Feb. 2012
combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
Silly phone. I wasn't done.

I have formed the habit of checking ingredients every time I make a purchase. After you do this for a little bit it gets easier and you learn what ingredients actually are.

You mentioned your hair is fine. I have fine hair as well. I've learned from reading articles and threads on this site that fine hair normally needs protein. Using products with lots of protein or doing protein treatments help thicken and strengthen hair.

CG friendly conditioners that are cheap include:
Suave naturals conditioners
Vo5 conditioners
Tresemme naturals
Renpure organics (red bottle, argan, keratain) these are about 5.99

Drugstore gels that are cheap include:
Aussie instant freeze
Suave captivating curls spray gel
La looks gels
La Bella gels
Eco styler (I'm really liking this one at the moment.)
Pantene curly gel
CG as of Feb. 2012
combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
Oops. Did it again.

To sum everything up I guess, there's a lot of cheap products out there that work really well.

Finding out your hair properties will help you choose products best suited for your hair too. Also, your hair can have different curl patterns. My hair tends to be more wavy on top and very curly underneath. My texture is fine. My density is medium to thin. I'm not sure about my porosity. I think I'm in the middle...maybe. My hair loves protein and it's stayin pretty moisturized since the weather is getting warmer and I live in a humid state (Alabama).

I hope all this info has helped! Sort for my multiple posting too my phone decided to spazz out. :]
CG as of Feb. 2012
combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
Don't worry, and hang in there! You've gotten a lot of good advice in this thread, so don't give up.

You know, some 99 cent or dollar stores sell cheaper name brands of conditioners - I've bought Suave Naturals and V05 Naturals at the buck store by my boyfriend's house and saved a bundle.

The most important thing to do is read every single label, top to bottom, every single ingredient. If there's a cone in it, back on the shelf it goes.

Someone above mentioned that technique is everything, and that's true too - whoever it was that said applying product to sopping wet hair is the best way to get clumps, that's true. I found it really works.

You'll be starting all over again after you clarify your hair, and it'll take some time - for some curlies, their hair looks crazy for the first month or two, but give your hair time to adjust to the new routine.

I never ever thought I'd get my hair down to adjust to the right combo of products and technique, but with a lot of patience, and of course, these forums, I finally got on track. And I'm sure you will too, and everyone is here to help you.
CG since 1/09. Protein and Mag Sulfate sensitive.
Hair Type - 3A.
Co-wash - Jane Carter Solution Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner.
Low-poo as needed - Beautiful Curls Curl Enhancing Shampoo.
Cond./Leave-In - Beautiful Curls Curl Enhancing Shea Butter Leave-In Conditioner.
Stylers - Jane Carter Solution Condition and Sculpt; Beautiful Curls Curl Defining Gel.
well like I said in my post I know its bad but its all I can afford right now. SO tresemme naturals is better? Are you sure?? Because Ill try to get some as soon as possible.
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
Garnier Fructis triple moisture is good and cone free. I get a big bottle for like $4 at Walmart. That's usually my conditioner. I use cheap vo5 line clarifying conditioner for my cowash. It smells devine!!


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Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
well like I said in my post I know its bad but its all I can afford right now. SO tresemme naturals is better? Are you sure?? Because Ill try to get some as soon as possible.
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
Garnier Fructis triple moisture is good and cone free. I get a big bottle for like $4 at Walmart. That's usually my conditioner. I use cheap vo5 line clarifying conditioner for my cowash. It smells devine!!


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Originally Posted by GoddessCurls

GF Triple Nutrition and Sleek and Shine were both recently re-formulated and now contain amodimethicone. Length and Strength and Color Shield only contain water soluble cone and Pure Clean and Body Boost are cone-free.

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Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel

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