low porosity, fine- what does your hair like?

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My curly sisters (and brothers) with low-normal porosity, fine-medium strands, what does your hair like? I try to pay attention to people's signatures but don't feel I've gotten a sense if there is any consensus of what's good for our hair and what's not.

Does your hair like lots of protein? I've read that fine hair does, but low porosity doesn't, so I'm confused. I started using AO's GPB conditioner on wet hair and my hair seems to like it. Should I use even more protein? I color treat too.

And what about oil? My HG styler has coconut oil as its 5th ingredient, but I only use it on wet or damp hair. When I apply pure oil on dry hair, my hair HATES it. Every strand starts going its own way and it somehow looks frizzy, flat, and oily at the same time. So I've been scared to "seal" my hair with oil when its wet.

And what else should I know about low-normal porosity, fine-medium hair? Oh, my curls are mostly 3b, dense, and pretty long, but that seems less important.

Thanks!!!!!
Formerly Urbancurl.
Medium-high density, fine-medium, low-normal porosity, 3b/c, permanent color.
CG, no heat, combs, brushes, parabens.
Fall/Winter HG=Alba Botanica Soft Hold Style Cream.
Spring/Summer HG=MGA Sculpting Gel
Current fave LI=Madre Labs Made by Nature for Baby Conditioner.
Limit oils, butters, glycerin.
I am currently having a lot of success with the Shea Moisture Coconut and Hibiscus shampoo and moisture milk conditioner. It may be too rich for me once the humidity of summer sets in but it did well for me during the colder winter months.

I really need to low-poo at least twice a week. My "go to" conditioner is Tresseme Naturals. It never lets me down, no matter the weather. For stylers, I love LOOB (LOreal Out of Bed), EcoStyler Krystal and homemade FSG. I can mix in any additives my hair needs at the time - honey for extra moisture, glycerin for frizz control, epsom salts as a curl enhancer, etc. If you haven't tried making a batch, I highly recommend it. It's cheap, easy and fast.

I also use a protein treatment weekly. I love IAGirl's recipe. You can find her recipe and recipes for FSG in the search bar above.

I hear you on the oils. Too much for my fine hair. I've tried them in several ways. I get minimal success if there is a little oil in a product, but never on its own.

Good luck! Keep experimenting!
3B, fine, normal to low porosity
Modified CG since June 2010
HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
I have protein sensitive, low porosity 3b/a mix hair with fine hair strands.
I've just recently really figured my hair out after some research.
My hair hates protein with a passion...So no protein conditioners for me! The first time I realized I have protein sensitive hair I ordered the Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle&Rose conditioner and it was alright...I really needed more moisture though and got the jessie curl deep conditioner and it was not good for my hair at all, then i tried the burdock root butter cream from qhemet and it wasn't good for me at all either, just made my hair stiff so I just bought the garnier fructis conditioner and it was good I guess but I still need more moisture for my hair...so now here I am, my Matrix biolage conditioning balm just arrived and i'm going to try it later.


I'm also going to invest in a steamer for my hair...
So my main thing is getting as much moisture into my hair as possible.
My hair hates oils btw....oils tends to just sit on my hair and never soak in, also, it makes my hair all hard and greasy (weird combo I know but I can't really explain it better than that). Like coconut oil for example...makes my hair feel like frozen ice if that makes sense, but it also makes my hair feel greasy even though I don't use lots of oil...it's because it just sits on top of my hair and never sinks into the hair strands.

I don't use any styling products or anything for my hair...I don't like mousse or gels or anything that makes my hair all stiff or greasy.
I don't mind a little frizz, although I don't have much frizz, I just like the loose feel...I want to be able to touch my hair without having to worry about "Messing it up". I just like free,loose, soft curls.

Right now I'm just trying to find my HG conditioner.
So now i'm on the search for a HG conditioner + a hand steamer.
My hair is fine/low porosity and never met a protein it didn't like! I do at least one PT a week and use a lot of products with protein. I use minute amounts of rich products, so don't need to DT.

My hair prefers the more natural products from the online, boutique companies. It doesn't care for gels (products with chemicals, especially polyquats 4 and 10), but really likes jelly products as the last product on.
Aside from the polyquats, it HATES castor and mineral oil.

I also have to rotate products. Even back in my shampoo/conditioner only days, my hair satiated on products. I wet, use a rinse out and style every day. I seldom let myself use any one product more then twice in a week. It's usually every five days, even if I LOVE it!
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3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
Here's my current list of products:

Coconut oil
Olive oil
V05 condish (CO/RO)
Suave condish(CO/RO)
L'Oreal Professionals Mega Moisture condish (amodimethicone) (RO)
Ion Reconstructor treatment (protein) (RO)
Giovanni 50:50 shampoo (clarify)
Mixed Silk Conditioning Leave-In (amodimethicone) (LI)
LALSG (protein) (on occaision)
Thanks everyone, this is really interesting and helpful for me. So far there's no pattern I can see in what works for hair with these qualities, but I see I'm not alone in my hair not liking straight oil when it's dry (and maybe not when it's wet). And I am going to try some of these products when I'm ready to make a purchase. The FSG I might try sooner since that's really cheap. Planning to try Tresseme Naturals as a One Condition substitute if I don't like my TJ's Nourish I bought but haven't tried yet, and curious about Marie Dean's Curly hair cream. Will keep experimenting to see how much protein my hair needs.
Formerly Urbancurl.
Medium-high density, fine-medium, low-normal porosity, 3b/c, permanent color.
CG, no heat, combs, brushes, parabens.
Fall/Winter HG=Alba Botanica Soft Hold Style Cream.
Spring/Summer HG=MGA Sculpting Gel
Current fave LI=Madre Labs Made by Nature for Baby Conditioner.
Limit oils, butters, glycerin.
Great thread! Another fine haired/low porosity 3a/b curly here. I'm not completely protein sensitive but I do limit the amount of protein in my products. I never PT. My hair can easily become straw like.

I do have issues with build up and sensitivity to humectants from hard water and high dews. I don't think I've never been over conditioned or weighed down even though my hair is "fine".

I'm trying out the more natural products (per kathymack's recs) but I think I may be reacting to the aloe and/or glycerin. I wish those things weren't in soooo many products.

I'd love to hear from other fine hair/low po curlies!!!!
3a/b, fine texture, low porosity, normal elasticity, mod-CG 7/11/11

Poo: KC Come Clean, SM Moisture Retention
CO: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Renpure Argan Oil, YTCucumbers, Sevi Pumpkin
Style: AIF, HESMU, Biolage gelee, KCCC
LOOB for second day hair


Like BS/ACV rinses, limit protein/humectants.

Last edited by Cuban-curl-E; 06-17-2012 at 10:13 AM.
Question: My hair is breaking!!! Since being natural I have practically elimnated protein from my rotation on the assumption of my hair protein bonds are not being broken down with a relaxer therefore I don't need protein. Long story short, I can't seem to eliminate the frizzy and dry ends along with the splits ends. I have tried home remedies and online purchases but nothing stop it, and now my hair is breaking something fierce. What should I do? Do I need a strong protein treatment? If what should I try, I tried Iagirl's recipe my hair turned out weird feeling to say the least even more tangly and stiff like.
4a/b
Natural with fine strands the majority.
Low Porosity/Medium Density
Texture I believe is spongy
Question: My hair is breaking!!! Since being natural I have practically elimnated protein from my rotation on the assumption of my hair protein bonds are not being broken down with a relaxer therefore I don't need protein. Long story short, I can't seem to eliminate the frizzy and dry ends along with the splits ends. I have tried home remedies and online purchases but nothing stop it, and now my hair is breaking something fierce. What should I do? Do I need a strong protein treatment? If what should I try, I tried Iagirl's recipe my hair turned out weird feeling to say the least even more tangly and stiff like.
Originally Posted by McQuay30
My hair properties and behavior is a lot like Cuban-E-Curly. And IAgirl's recipe turned out bad for me as well. I would advise you NOT doing a PT, because of the way you describe your hair.
You probably have hair with low elasticity and lack of moisture. This is something you can test by wetting your hair. Then take one hair between your hands and carefully pull on it. If it barely stretches your hair needs a lot of moisture. If it stretches a long way (you'll notice this as well when combing your hair when wet) then your hair needs more protein.

There is another way of knowing if you need moisture: after washing/wetting your hair give it a firm squeeze, if it clogs up in a big fuzzy hair ball you certainly need moisture.
Do moisturizing treatments first and see if it helps. Good luck!

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2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
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