Hi! New to CG...product recommendations?

I have been using Kinky-Curly shampoo, leave-in, and curling custard for a while now. I don't think that's CG because I use shampoo, but there aren't silicones or sulfates. Anyway, those are good, but I'd rather have fewer products and less expensive ones. Plus, the results are inconsistent.

I was thinking of trying Darcy's Botanicals products. I'm interested in the Daily Cleansing Conditioner Cream and the Curling Cream Gel
NEW Daily Cleansing Conditioner Cream - Cleansing - Natural Hair Care - Darcy's Botanicals
NEW Curling Cream Gel - Styling & Finishing - Natural Hair Care - Darcy's Botanicals

I have a few questions, though. If I use the Cleansing Conditioner Cream, do I have to use an additional conditioner, or would that be enough? It says it can be used as a leave-in, so if I only had to use that, that would be awesome. My other question is if the cream gel has hold. Has anyone tried it? Would this hold be enough, or should I try the Curling Jelly?
Natural Coils Curling Jelly - Styling & Finishing - Natural Hair Care - Darcy's Botanicals

Thanks in advance!
People need more information about your hair to help you choose products. What are your hair properties?? If you don't know, here's a link to help Live Curly Live Free - Home Once you know your properties, look for people with hair like yours and see what they use (in signatures.) It's the best way to start.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
Kinky curly products are considered CG. The shampoo is considered a low poo. There are some curlies who are modified CGs and they use low poos whenever they need too. Kinky curly is not for everyone. There are tons of cheaper products out there. To best choose products for your hair, you need to find out what your hair properties are.
CG as of Feb. 2012
combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
Thanks for the help. I've been doing some research and my hair is coarse, thick, and ranges from 2a to 2c. Does low porosity means it takes a while for your hair to absorb products? I find that product normally sits on top...
Low porosity does mean that it takes your hair a long time to absorb water and product. It also takes it a LONG time to "give it up." Inordinate amount of time to dry. My hair is fine and not very dense. When I worked, I would shower at 6 am, diffuse for a few minutes, not use any product--and at 11:30 am, I'd put my fingers under my hair at the nape and it would still be damp!

The float test isn't very reliable. The best way to tell is to go up a strand from ends to root--if it slides easily, it' probably low porosity.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
Low porosity does mean that it takes your hair a long time to absorb water and product. It also takes it a LONG time to "give it up." Inordinate amount of time to dry. My hair is fine and not very dense. When I worked, I would shower at 6 am, diffuse for a few minutes, not use any product--and at 11:30 am, I'd put my fingers under my hair at the nape and it would still be damp!

The float test isn't very reliable. The best way to tell is to go up a strand from ends to root--if it slides easily, it' probably low porosity.
Originally Posted by kathymack
I know how that feels! I can go all day with my hair being wet sometimes. Also, whenever I try an oil or pomade, it stays all greasy and sits on the surface for forever.

I actually just bought the Daily Cleansing Conditioner Cream and the Cream Gel by Darcy's Botanicals. Yay! My first cowash. I am excited to finally go official CG
Low porosity does mean that it takes your hair a long time to absorb water and product. It also takes it a LONG time to "give it up." Inordinate amount of time to dry. My hair is fine and not very dense. When I worked, I would shower at 6 am, diffuse for a few minutes, not use any product--and at 11:30 am, I'd put my fingers under my hair at the nape and it would still be damp!

The float test isn't very reliable. The best way to tell is to go up a strand from ends to root--if it slides easily, it' probably low porosity.
Originally Posted by kathymack
I know how that feels! I can go all day with my hair being wet sometimes. Also, whenever I try an oil or pomade, it stays all greasy and sits on the surface for forever.

I actually just bought the Daily Cleansing Conditioner Cream and the Cream Gel by Darcy's Botanicals. Yay! My first cowash. I am excited to finally go official CG
Originally Posted by dresdendoll
How did your hair turn out? I hope the products worked well!
Formerly Urbancurl.
Medium-high density, fine-medium, low-normal porosity, 3b/c, permanent color.
CG, no heat, combs, brushes, parabens.
Fall/Winter HG=Alba Botanica Soft Hold Style Cream.
Spring/Summer HG=MGA Sculpting Gel
Current fave LI=Madre Labs Made by Nature for Baby Conditioner.
Limit oils, butters, glycerin.
Thanks! They are working pretty well, especially for wash n goes. But as the day goes on, my curls get a little limp and stringy...
Am I doing something wrong? It's impossible to get 2nd day hair
2c/2b with some 2a, coarse, dense, thick, low porosity
Growing out a CL bob. Currently at APL.
CG again as of 7/20/12


Cleanser: BRÖÖ Smoothing I.P.A. Shampoo
RO: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

all-natural products, light moisture, humectants, argan oil
silk protein, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils/products, cowashing
Thanks! They are working pretty well, especially for wash n goes. But as the day goes on, my curls get a little limp and stringy...
Am I doing something wrong? It's impossible to get 2nd day hair
Originally Posted by dresdendoll
I'm a perfectionist about my hair and have the time to do it every day, so don't try for second day hair. Jessicurl was the second line I tried after Deva. Made my hair limp and lifeless after only a week. Could be the products just aren't the ones for you.

Also, if you're styling every day, you may need to rotate products. Most of us do. My hair has always satiated on product, even back in my shampoo/conditioner only days. I wet, use a rinse out and style every day. I seldom let myself use a product twice in a week. Usually every five days for something I LOVE.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I use and love the products you mention and have them in my rotation along with other DB products. I find they are quite rich and I need only a small amount. You may need to experiment with the amount you use. The cream gel makes my curls very soft so I aways use a hard hold gel like BRHG over top for hold. I've never had the stringy limp problem with these products. In fact, I get very nice definition and volume with the cream gel. As kathymack said, the product may not be for you. It may take some experimenting.
3B, fine, low/normal porosity
CG - July 2009
CO/RO/Trt.-Suave, BCB, Tigi OH & MM, EO, CJRehab, SG, DF & CF, Jasmine's, Bellacurl, SS, Darcy's, K-Pak, Shescentit, DE Coconut, MD, Oyin, JCWDT, CurlQ
LI-GDLI, Abba PGC, CJRehab, CF,SG & BCLI, Jasmine's, Bellacurl, SS, Shescentit, DE Coconut, MD, Oyin
Styler-FSG, Re:coil, CJCCCC lite & CIAB, Komaza CCP & CS, DB, BRHG, Joiwhip/gel, Ecostyler, Boots, SS, Gel-les'c, DMMCG, KCSS
Too many others to list!
Thanks, again, for the advice!
I tried a protein treatment today, which really helped. I then used the cleansing conditioner and cream gel, and my hair looks a lot better. I didn't use the conditioner as a leave-in this time. I think that's what was weighing me down.

I read that magnesium sulfate makes hair curlier, so I got some magnesium gel at Whole Foods today. (I looove Whole Foods!) Anyway, I think I might try that over the cream gel for extra hold. Has anyone tried it?

By the way, all of your hair in your avatars is beautiful
2c/2b with some 2a, coarse, dense, thick, low porosity
Growing out a CL bob. Currently at APL.
CG again as of 7/20/12


Cleanser: BRÖÖ Smoothing I.P.A. Shampoo
RO: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

all-natural products, light moisture, humectants, argan oil
silk protein, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils/products, cowashing
The Magnesium Gel actually works pretty well! I combined it with my styler and got pretty good results, but it's also a nice, nongreasy refresher.
2c/2b with some 2a, coarse, dense, thick, low porosity
Growing out a CL bob. Currently at APL.
CG again as of 7/20/12


Cleanser: BRÖÖ Smoothing I.P.A. Shampoo
RO: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

all-natural products, light moisture, humectants, argan oil
silk protein, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils/products, cowashing

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