What is CG and wth are cones??... confused.com

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What exactly is this whole CG thing? I heard loads about it online, I know you need to wash with shampoo... and I've head "cones" are no good but that's about it lol...


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Cg refers to curly girl method, comes is short for silicones. Look up cg method on google and keep reading the boards - tons of great info.
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Here is a great summary of the CG method:
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Oh yea I knew cones were silicones... but what are silicones and why are they so bad?
Cones is like a dirty word on these forums lol... what do they do?

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I dont know about any "CG" or anything like that cause Ive been dealing with naturally curly hair since I was a baby ..... but cones is not a dirty word. It's just that when you really really really want to get into growing and maintaining truly healthy hair then you will need to consider stopping the use of any product that contains cones.

Also, cones and protein do not work well. Cones have a way of blocking any other nutrients out from reaching deep into the hair.

Another big reason to stop cones is it requires a harsh sulfate shampoo to properly remove it. The more cones you have the more harsh shampoo you will need. Yes there are now chemically altered cones but the reality is ALL cones block moisture and other nutrients from getting into the hair.

Some people like cones for many reasons but overall and no matter what a persons hair properties are, cones in the long run don't add to naturally healthy and naturally vibrant hair.

Cones serve more for cosmetic purpose by adding additional padding onto the hair shaft. Might make the hair look good right at the time of using them but they require a nonstop routine of washing them off with sulfate and then reapplying.

Cut out all the temporary fixes and learn about properly moisturizing the hair, learn about occasional protein treatments, sealing with natural oils, and the rest is simply about managing and maintaining elasticity, low manipulation, and retention and the occasional fight with frizz.


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Sulfates and Silicones are both evil for our hair according to the CG (Curly Girl-Named after the book of the same name) Method.

Sulfates are evil because they are drying to the hair and strip it of natural oils. They are found in shampoos as well as detergents and other cleaners.

Silicones are evil because they coat the hair and don't allow moisture in. They are also very difficult to remove from the hair shaft without using sulfate containing cleaners.

Both of these are found in many hair care/styling products, so if you want to use the CG method for healthy hair, you have to watch for and be aware of the ingredients in the products you use.

That's really the short unscientific version, but I hope it helps you to understand.
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Ohh thanks so much for that site!! Just been reading loads on there. Answered a lot of my questions and even answered questions I didn't know I had! Seriously, thank you so much

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Thanks so much for all the answers. It makes a lot more sense now... less overwhelming also. I wasn't to sure if I should try this CG thing, but now I just really want to get started on it ASAP!! Going to the hair shop on Monday lol

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helpful hint: silicone ingredients end with the suffixes -cone, -xane, or --conol. Also avoid Mineral oil and petrolatum for the same reasons you should avoid silicones
- 2C - Coarse Canopy & med/fine underlayers
- MOP C Hydrating 'poo
- LOreal Natures Therapy Moisturizing condish, ION Effective Care, Garnier S&S (old formula)
- treatments: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Repair Me!
- plopping, diffusing, and clipping the roots
If you decide to go CG, be sure to sulfate shampoo one last time and make sure your shampoo is silicone free. I did not do this step and about a few weeks into it my hair was being funny. I hadn't realized the shampoo I last used had cones in it. Once I figured this out, I went and bought a Suave Naturals shampoo and "started over".
CG as of Feb. 2012
combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
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Thanks a lot. Spent hours looking through my hair stuff last night... just about everything had cone, xane and conals in it lol, including products i thought were meant to be good for hair :/
I have so much frizz compared to everybody else in the world lol, but I will try this out anyway.

As for the shampoo... I heard I can use baking soda, is that true?

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Many of us cleanse with either a light conditioner (co-washing), or a sulfate-free shampoo (low-poo), or rotate between the two, depending on how our hair feels. The thing that makes CG so wonderful and so frustrating at the same time is that no two people will have the exact same routine or products. Finding someone with the same hair properties (texture, porosity, elasticity), can give you a good starting point. If you haven't determined your hair properties yet, livecurlylivefree.com has lots of great info. These properties are much more important than curl pattern in finding what works for you.

Some people do use baking soda once in a while to clarify. The thing with baking soda is that used alone, it has the same effect as a sulfate- it opens up the cuticle layer of the hair. Open cuticles allow moisture to get out and can lead to increased tangles. If you use baking soda, be sure to follow with an apple cider vinegar rinse to close the cuticle again.

Silicones in and of themselves are not bad for hair. It's just the fact that a stronger cleanser is required to remove them from the hair. Some have been altered to be water soluble and these are still fine to use when doing CG. This includes anything that has PPG or PEG in front of it, as well as a few others that otherwise look like the "bad" cones. If in doubt, I've always used Google.

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CLEANSE: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: DevaCare One Condition, SS Caitlin's Conditioner, Mop Top Daily Conditioner
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse, Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel

As for the shampoo... I heard I can use baking soda, is that true?

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Originally Posted by coconilla
I asked a similar question not too long ago when I realized I used cones when I pooed (and a couple other products I was using at the time had cones). I was told that baking soda is good for removing build up but not for removing cones.
CG as of Feb. 2012
combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.
BSACV as needed.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
Thanks so much for all the helpful answers. I'm so exited to start this now. I used to do the tightly curly method, and I think I want to combine the 2.
I knew some products were no good, but now I've got some definite rules on what to look out for to avoid.

All of you have such beautiful hair, it really inspires me to get started on this

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