beeduh

So I've been noticing my hair becomes pretty dry toward the end of the day. Could protein in my hair products be causing this? Should I try to seal my hair? Does this also mean my porosity level is higher than I thought?

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combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.

oh.hi.its.steph

You should definitely try sealing. It's wonderful!

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whurly girly (2C/3A).
thick; medium/coarse; low porosity.
hair that is drier than the sahara desert.

LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!

beeduh

Does mixing an oil with a LI work? Seal after LI? Before LI?

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combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.

oh.hi.its.steph

After LI but before stylers. You want to seal in the moisture from the LI I apply like half of my LI on its own, then mix the other half with oil. So yeah, mixing the two works well!

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whurly girly (2C/3A).
thick; medium/coarse; low porosity.
hair that is drier than the sahara desert.

LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!

dresdendoll

If I were you, I would cut down on the protein to maybe 1-3 times a week and maybe try adding some argan oil to your leave-in

I thought my hair loved protein, but then I switched products and found my hair does great without it and feels much more moisturized. It curls the same without the protein--maybe even more.

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2c/2b with some 2a, coarse, dense, thick, low porosity
Growing out a CL bob. Last significant haircut 12/2011.
CG again as of 7/20/12


Cleanser: BRÖÖ Hydrating Porter Shampoo
Conditioner: Darcy's Botanicals Pumpkin Conditioner
Styler: homemade coconut/aloe flax gel
Trying to make my own products!

all-natural products, MOISTURE, Mehandi henna, argan oil
PROTEIN, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils

beeduh

I'd like to add that it was raining yesterday, so there was a ton of moisture in the air.

And thanks dressendoll. I'll try doing that.

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combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.

SegB

Too much glycerin in my styling products causes my hair to dry out through out the day...As well as protein!

Steph- I want to try sealing with a lighter oil...Is grapeseed oil light? Or jojoba? I saw the grapeseed in Whole Foods...Is is the kind you use for cooking?

Thanks!

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2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils

oh.hi.its.steph

Ooh, glycerine might be a culprit here... I forgot about that. A lot of curlies have glycerine issues.

Grapeseed oil is supposed to be great for sealing! Definitely give that a try. Same for jojoba, but I know some curlies don't like the way it "feels" while being applied. It's a dry oil and can feel a little hard to distribute. Personally I recommend grapeseed, sweet almond or argan oil.

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whurly girly (2C/3A).
thick; medium/coarse; low porosity.
hair that is drier than the sahara desert.

LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!

SegB

Thanks Steph! Just for clarification...It's the kind you cook with, right? I was staring at it over the weekend but then didn't know if it was the right one! My husband said I was crazy if I put that in my hair which made me doubt I had the right one LOL

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2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils

beeduh

I've been using KC, CK, and CJ lately. I know some of the CJ stuff has protien, I'll check for glycerin. I forgot about that one.

Alright. I tried sealing this morning with jojoba oil. I also SOTC with a litlle jojoba oil. So far so good. My hair is very soft.

SegB - I bought my grapeseed oil in the grocery aisle at Target. I think it was 3 or 4 dollars. I added it to my FSG the last time I made some and liked it. I have not tried sealing with it yet because it's in a huge bottle and I rather not keep it in the bathroom.

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combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.

wavymom

Where do you buy jojoba, argan, or sweet almond oil? I have yet to find any of these. Is sweet almond oil the same thing as the almond oil you can find next to peanut oil, walnut oil, etc. at some stores?
Thanks

Cuban-curl-E

Does it feel hard and dry? Then it could be the protein. If it's just dryer than usual could definitely be the glycerin and/or humectants if your dews have been greater than 60.

I find I can handle some protein and some glycerin if I rotate products and overall keep those ingredients to a minimum. High up on the list = disaster.

Sealing with straight oil didn't seem to work for me either. Good luck!

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3a/b, fine texture, low porosity, normal elasticity, mod-CG 7/11/11

Poo: KC Come Clean, SM Moisture Retention
CO: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Renpure Argan Oil, YTCucumbers, Sevi Pumpkin
Style: AIF, HESMU, Biolage gelee, KCCC
LOOB for second day hair

Like BS/ACV rinses, limit protein/humectants.

monipearl

you can find these oils at your local health food store. i bought sweet almond oil from whole foods and i LOVE it. nice and light and doesn't leave my hair greasy.

as far as being the same as the oil in the cooking aisle... not sure.

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3c-4b. probably.
medium/coarse texture.
(extremely)high density.
low porosity, normal elasticity.
co-wash: suave naturals daily clarifying condish with drops of rosemary oil.
detangling conditioner: tresemme naturals.
deep conditioner: curly kinks curlycue renew, b.a.s.k. cacao bark, honey/evoo.

beeduh

It's definitely not a protein overdose. My hair handles protein pretty well. It just starts to feel very dry as the day goes on. My roots are very dry a lot and I'm not sure how to keep them moisturized.

I tried sealing today and I'm very impressed. It seemed to help a lot.

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combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.

jaclyn15

I have heard a lot about sealing but I'm not sure how do to it. Is it just applying an oil before your gel/styler?

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My hair: 3b, corkicelli, medium porosity, medium texture, medium/thick density

Co-wash: DevaCurl NoPoo
Rinse-out: GVP Conditioning Balm
Leave-in: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut, or my rinse-out!
Gel: SS FHG (my new HG!!)... I also like HESMU, AIF, CJ CQ, BRHG, CJ PP and the occasional LALSG

Likes: Plopping!
Dislikes: Glycerin

CG and loving it!

oh.hi.its.steph

Yup, after your LI but before your gel/styler.

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whurly girly (2C/3A).
thick; medium/coarse; low porosity.
hair that is drier than the sahara desert.

LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!

Jas76

I've Been getting this lately, too! Even when I seal!!

What has helped me is SOTC with oil, and re-applying some oil later in the day (before bed seems to help for the morning.)

I cut back protein and saw no difference. Like you, my hair loves protein.

I didn't use much glycerin last time - still no change. There was a tiny bit of Epsom in there - but that's never given me problems before.

I am thinking I might try clarifying followed by a DT and see if it's a build up issue!

And, FWIW, I am highly porous. I would think that does contribute. I May try a mild ACV rinse to see if closing the cuticle more helps.

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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing

beeduh

I'm not sure where i stand with porosity. How is you find out you are high porosity? I just know that I'm not low porosity.

I tried sealing again today (accidentally used too much oil, but it's not greasy or weighed down) my coworker (the one that compliments my hair a lot) said I was having a good hair day today. :]

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combination hair.
2c on top - low elasticity
3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
porosity: normal to high.
loves protein and moisture.

products may vary. i'm a PJ.
loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.

Jas76

Well, I actually had a hair stylist explain to me years ago that my hair was porous and I needed protein.

But honestly, it obvious with my hair. It takes forever to dry and holds a ton of water! It may be harder to tell that way, though, since your hair is shorter.

There are a couple of tests - one is put a hair in water and watch to see if it sinks. The other is to run two fingers up a single hair strand - if it feels rough, it's porous.

Others may be able to give you more advice on testing that - as I said, I was told a long time ago. I believe fine hair is more commonly highly porous, and coarse hair more often low porous.

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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing

Jas76

Oh! Another good sign is if you are finding oil/sealing is helping!

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2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing