Deva Cut v. Regular Cut

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  • 1 Post By Corrina777

Hi everyone! I am new to the boards and was just wondering everyone's opinion on whether a deva cut really makes a difference in the hair vs. a regular cut. Could it be that we just love our hair after a 'Deva Cut' because we implement the curly girl method? Would we get the same results from the curly girl method with a regular hair cut?
Opinions on this are mixed. I know that my Devacut made a huge difference in how my curls actually fell. My care methods didn't change and I had been modified CG for about 6 months at the time. I don't know yet if better communication with a regular stylist would yield the same results for me- I haven't tried it. But like everything else CG, it works for some but not for all.

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I love the difference that a Deva cut can make for the hair.
I have had two clients this week that really showed some of the problems that wet cutting on curlies can cause.
One had the triangle hair problem and layers that looked like steps or lines around the head. The curls were stacked up upon each other. She also had that straighter bottom layer that stuck out longer than the rest of her curls.
The next client had the opposite problem. Her nape hair or bottom most layers were all different kinds of curly. Shrinking up 3 too 4 inches more than the top layers. This just poofed out the back. By shaping with the dry cut and making the curls lay into each other instead of on top of each other, her hair actually looked longer when we were done.
We wear our hair dry, so why not cut it dry. It allows me to see exactly what I am doing and how it will fall everyday.
My hair and my clients hair has never looked better @
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I think it's possible to go either way - some love it, others hate it. I had an experience that wasn't so great. My hair can look either really pulled out with certain products and application techniques, or it can wave/curl nicely and I can get ringlets in places if I style it right with the right method and products.

For me, I tried a deva inspired stylist once. I should start by saying that no stylist has ever been able to style my hair nicely without straightening it, so I guess I shouldn't have had such high expectations and that was my fault. What scares me most about deva cuts is, they tell you to come in without styling your hair, just dry and "natural, naked hair" right? Then they supposedly get a good feel for how the hair is. Then they cut a bit, wet it, style it how they think it ought to be styled, and do a majority of the cutting then. That scares me the most because the only one who can style my hair nicely is myself, unless they straighten it (and what would be the point of that anyway?). Needless to say, I ended up with an uneven, choppy cut, and I didn't even have my whole head cut because she thought it didn't need it, despite me wanting a trim. Just places where she thought it should be cut. I spent a long time growing out those "places" because after going home and washing, they stayed straight for about 4 months.

I know a lot of people here who've had awesome experiences. I chalk that up to the fact they have realistic expectations (maybe ), and a stylist can style their hair nicely. A lot of us here have been CG for awhile before we see a stylist that is deva trained. Though I think that daily technique and taking care of your hair properly is the biggest recipe for success, the hair cut if done right on the right head isn't bad either. I've been getting regular cuts for years and still have pretty great hair I think, so I don't think it's necessary to have a deva cut to have great hair. Though I suspect deva may be more beneficial for those with tighter curl types. Or maybe it's just beneficial for everyone else BUT me lol.

Have you had a deva cut or are you just thinking about getting one done?
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Made a huge difference for me, and as several fellow curlies know, having followed my journey to what was finally a Deva cut, I DID try to communicate with my previous stylists. Over and over I said I did not like the shape of my hair, that my curl was unmanageable. The colorist would take a brush or comb to my hair before she started on me. Now, I never brush my hair, and the only time I use a comb is for the part. I am not crazy about the products but I think that is ok and fairly normal here in curlyland.
I think it's possible to go either way - some love it, others hate it. I had an experience that wasn't so great. My hair can look either really pulled out with certain products and application techniques, or it can wave/curl nicely and I can get ringlets in places if I style it right with the right method and products.

For me, I tried a deva inspired stylist once. I should start by saying that no stylist has ever been able to style my hair nicely without straightening it, so I guess I shouldn't have had such high expectations and that was my fault. What scares me most about deva cuts is, they tell you to come in without styling your hair, just dry and "natural, naked hair" right? Then they supposedly get a good feel for how the hair is. Then they cut a bit, wet it, style it how they think it ought to be styled, and do a majority of the cutting then. That scares me the most because the only one who can style my hair nicely is myself, unless they straighten it (and what would be the point of that anyway?). Needless to say, I ended up with an uneven, choppy cut, and I didn't even have my whole head cut because she thought it didn't need it, despite me wanting a trim. Just places where she thought it should be cut. I spent a long time growing out those "places" because after going home and washing, they stayed straight for about 4 months.

I know a lot of people here who've had awesome experiences. I chalk that up to the fact they have realistic expectations (maybe ), and a stylist can style their hair nicely. A lot of us here have been CG for awhile before we see a stylist that is deva trained. Though I think that daily technique and taking care of your hair properly is the biggest recipe for success, the hair cut if done right on the right head isn't bad either. I've been getting regular cuts for years and still have pretty great hair I think, so I don't think it's necessary to have a deva cut to have great hair. Though I suspect deva may be more beneficial for those with tighter curl types. Or maybe it's just beneficial for everyone else BUT me lol.

Have you had a deva cut or are you just thinking about getting one done?
Originally Posted by aislin

When I made my appointment at Devachan I was told to wear my hair down and as I normally would, as long as it wasn't super weighed down and product-y. I'll also be the first to say that it wasn't styled fabulously when I left, but has looked great ever since then when I style it myself. I stopped expecting anyone else to be able to style my hair a long time ago. As long as the cut is good I don't worry about the styling.

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My curls have way too much jump to get a decent cut by traditional methods (traction on wet hair). Even attempts to get only the ends trimmed, starting with hair just below my shoulders would end up in near pixie cuts, as the hairdresser "just evened up" from side to side to side, until it was partway up my ears, and there was so little hair that not even the least talented hairdresser could fail to get the sides the same length. Of course, once it was dry, it wasn't even any more because my curl pattern is irregular.
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I think it's possible to go either way - some love it, others hate it. I had an experience that wasn't so great. My hair can look either really pulled out with certain products and application techniques, or it can wave/curl nicely and I can get ringlets in places if I style it right with the right method and products.

For me, I tried a deva inspired stylist once. I should start by saying that no stylist has ever been able to style my hair nicely without straightening it, so I guess I shouldn't have had such high expectations and that was my fault. What scares me most about deva cuts is, they tell you to come in without styling your hair, just dry and "natural, naked hair" right? Then they supposedly get a good feel for how the hair is. Then they cut a bit, wet it, style it how they think it ought to be styled, and do a majority of the cutting then. That scares me the most because the only one who can style my hair nicely is myself, unless they straighten it (and what would be the point of that anyway?). Needless to say, I ended up with an uneven, choppy cut, and I didn't even have my whole head cut because she thought it didn't need it, despite me wanting a trim. Just places where she thought it should be cut. I spent a long time growing out those "places" because after going home and washing, they stayed straight for about 4 months.

I know a lot of people here who've had awesome experiences. I chalk that up to the fact they have realistic expectations (maybe ), and a stylist can style their hair nicely. A lot of us here have been CG for awhile before we see a stylist that is deva trained. Though I think that daily technique and taking care of your hair properly is the biggest recipe for success, the hair cut if done right on the right head isn't bad either. I've been getting regular cuts for years and still have pretty great hair I think, so I don't think it's necessary to have a deva cut to have great hair. Though I suspect deva may be more beneficial for those with tighter curl types. Or maybe it's just beneficial for everyone else BUT me lol.

Have you had a deva cut or are you just thinking about getting one done?
Originally Posted by aislin
Aislin,

You're a wavy aren't you? Can you tell me if you have a strong direction from your scalp in any places, or do your waves start later on down the hair shaft. I've been spending alot of time on the wavie boards to learn more about their challenges and tecniques. Not only for my clients but for my mom. She has a strong direction from the scalp in some places and not so much in others. I've been doing a combanation of dry cutting and wet cutting tecniques but all on dry hair. Poor thing, being my gunipig, lol, but it is really looking good and she's getting more swirls and curls as we go.
As far as styling goes, if someone loves the way they style their hair, they think I stink. If they hate the way they style their hair they think I'm amazing!!
Don't worry, I'm the only one who can style my hair too.
I'd have no problem letting you style your own hair to show me how it lays when you did it your self, if it would help me see how you wanted it cut.
3a/3b coarse and thick.....big and red

Advanced Deva inspired Stylist
I think it's possible to go either way - some love it, others hate it. I had an experience that wasn't so great. My hair can look either really pulled out with certain products and application techniques, or it can wave/curl nicely and I can get ringlets in places if I style it right with the right method and products.
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For me, I tried a deva inspired stylist once. I should start by saying that no stylist has ever been able to style my hair nicely without straightening it, so I guess I shouldn't have had such high expectations and that was my fault. What scares me most about deva cuts is, they tell you to come in without styling your hair, just dry and "natural, naked hair" right? Then they supposedly get a good feel for how the hair is. Then they cut a bit, wet it, style it how they think it ought to be styled, and do a majority of the cutting then. That scares me the most because the only one who can style my hair nicely is myself, unless they straighten it (and what would be the point of that anyway?). Needless to say, I ended up with an uneven, choppy cut, and I didn't even have my whole head cut because she thought it didn't need it, despite me wanting a trim. Just places where she thought it should be cut. I spent a long time growing out those "places" because after going home and washing, they stayed straight for about 4 months.

I know a lot of people here who've had awesome experiences. I chalk that up to the fact they have realistic expectations (maybe ), and a stylist can style their hair nicely. A lot of us here have been CG for awhile before we see a stylist that is deva trained. Though I think that daily technique and taking care of your hair properly is the biggest recipe for success, the hair cut if done right on the right head isn't bad either. I've been getting regular cuts for years and still have pretty great hair I think, so I don't think it's necessary to have a deva cut to have great hair. Though I suspect deva may be more beneficial for those with tighter curl types. Or maybe it's just beneficial for everyone else BUT me lol.

Have you had a deva cut or are you just thinking about getting one done?
Originally Posted by aislin

When I made my appointment at Devachan I was told to wear my hair down and as I normally would, as long as it wasn't super weighed down and product-y. I'll also be the first to say that it wasn't styled fabulously when I left, but has looked great ever since then when I style it myself. I stopped expecting anyone else to be able to style my hair a long time ago. As long as the cut is good I don't worry about the styling.

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Originally Posted by Corrina777

I have had a feeling for a long time that the person I went to was "Deva inspired" more so than an actual Deva stylist - but who knows. She acted quite surprised when I told her my HG was KCCC, and didn't believe me when I said I could get more enhancement than how she styled my hair She actually laughed at me, and told me to get her a picture to prove it to her! EDIT: this has happened before, so I guess I shouldn't have been so hurt. Seriously, those were her words! I still can't believe I tipped that woman. Ah well, live and learn.

Even if I went into the salon with my own hair styled prior - which I did once and the results were disastrous - it would still scare me that they would try to style my hair and then cut it that way. I wish I could say that stylists could style my hair in its natural state and not feel anything but disgust. It goes one of two ways - it either turns out with globs of product left on my scalp and stringy, greasy looking lank hair that not even on my WORST styling day can I make it look that bad, or it looks like it has tiny pencil curls with a ton of volume, though very undefined, I'm really not exaggerating. The last time this happened I thought it was kind of cool before she pulled out the scissors because I honestly always wondered what I'd look like with an afro but have never tried on a wig.

I guess that's the scary part for those of us with hair that seems to be really wavy/curl one day, and just wavy the next. A haircut like that would spell disaster. I think it's awesome to see those of you who have sucessful endeavors with this type of hair cut. I really love seeing the transformations a deva cut can do with the right hair. Is there a picture thread for this already? Because I feel like there should be one for "curly cuts" with those who get the Deva, Ouidad, or other curly specific cuts that don't involved straightening the hair to have it cut.
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Last edited by aislin; 05-30-2012 at 09:55 PM.
I think it's possible to go either way - some love it, others hate it. I had an experience that wasn't so great. My hair can look either really pulled out with certain products and application techniques, or it can wave/curl nicely and I can get ringlets in places if I style it right with the right method and products.

For me, I tried a deva inspired stylist once. I should start by saying that no stylist has ever been able to style my hair nicely without straightening it, so I guess I shouldn't have had such high expectations and that was my fault. What scares me most about deva cuts is, they tell you to come in without styling your hair, just dry and "natural, naked hair" right? Then they supposedly get a good feel for how the hair is. Then they cut a bit, wet it, style it how they think it ought to be styled, and do a majority of the cutting then. That scares me the most because the only one who can style my hair nicely is myself, unless they straighten it (and what would be the point of that anyway?). Needless to say, I ended up with an uneven, choppy cut, and I didn't even have my whole head cut because she thought it didn't need it, despite me wanting a trim. Just places where she thought it should be cut. I spent a long time growing out those "places" because after going home and washing, they stayed straight for about 4 months.

I know a lot of people here who've had awesome experiences. I chalk that up to the fact they have realistic expectations (maybe ), and a stylist can style their hair nicely. A lot of us here have been CG for awhile before we see a stylist that is deva trained. Though I think that daily technique and taking care of your hair properly is the biggest recipe for success, the hair cut if done right on the right head isn't bad either. I've been getting regular cuts for years and still have pretty great hair I think, so I don't think it's necessary to have a deva cut to have great hair. Though I suspect deva may be more beneficial for those with tighter curl types. Or maybe it's just beneficial for everyone else BUT me lol.

Have you had a deva cut or are you just thinking about getting one done?
Originally Posted by aislin
Aislin,

You're a wavy aren't you? Can you tell me if you have a strong direction from your scalp in any places, or do your waves start later on down the hair shaft. I've been spending alot of time on the wavie boards to learn more about their challenges and tecniques. Not only for my clients but for my mom. She has a strong direction from the scalp in some places and not so much in others. I've been doing a combanation of dry cutting and wet cutting tecniques but all on dry hair. Poor thing, being my gunipig, lol, but it is really looking good and she's getting more swirls and curls as we go.
As far as styling goes, if someone loves the way they style their hair, they think I stink. If they hate the way they style their hair they think I'm amazing!!
Don't worry, I'm the only one who can style my hair too.
I'd have no problem letting you style your own hair to show me how it lays when you did it your self, if it would help me see how you wanted it cut.
Originally Posted by bigredapmi
It sounds like you are talking about me as though we have possibly interacted at some point? If so, are you a stylist based out of Okemos, MI? If not, I am not referring to you. Though at one point I did have a poor experience with someone outside of the Lansing/Okemos area that was similar to what I just described, it was not the first, nor the last time I had the same kind of treatment/statements made. As I stated previously, I am well aware of my past problem with my expectations . If you do think I am still referring to you, despite these clarifications, please do take note that there was no malice hidden anywhere in this statement towards any stylist, but a clear distinction that this was my own fault.

But, as previously stated, I think that although this type of cut can be done wonderfully, it takes the right head of hair, with the right stylist. I'm sure the women who've given me these specialized cuts in the past do amazing work on pther clients - which I've seen their proof so I know it's true! It just doesn't work for me I feel like every curly/wavy should try one at least once!
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I think whether or not a curly cut works for you depends a lot on your hair type. I used to be a medium textured wavy, and I wore my hair very long. Both "normal cuts" and layer cuts (not specifically curly cuts) worked well on my hair. However, now my hair has become fine and wavy. Regular cuts are disastrous. I was ready to shave my hair off because it looked so awful and poofy.

I went last week and got a Deva cut, and it's made all of the difference to how my hair behaves. She did a lot of work on it, and she was very sympathetic about my struggles. In my stylist's opinion, wavy hair is even more difficult to style than curly hair, unless one chooses to blow it out, which I don't like to do.

Now my hair looks wavy to curly and falls nicely. Before it was mostly straight, flipped out on the ends, and was poofy ugly. So, curly cuts are good for "only wavies" too.

Oh, the type of cut matters. When my hair first got fine, I had a Ouidad cut--what a disaster. The women kept saying, "but it's not really curly." But she cut it anyway. It took me three years to grow that mess out. This time, I double checked to be sure that my new stylist knew how to deal with wavy hair.

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Thank you everyone for your replies! I had chemically straightened my hair for four years, added layers and a side bang. I finally had enough with the chemicals and decided to grow out my hair, it has been almost two years and I have had 2 Deva Cuts. I do love them, but was just wondering if they were that miraculous! Thanks again for your input!!

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