I need LIFT!

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Just wondering: what do you do, what products do you use when you loosen your curls at the scalp, to keep the volume and lift? I have tried the mousse and gel I use (just a little on the palms of my hands) but they both fall flat, literally. I want BIG hair!!
I haven't gotten to test them out myself and I also don't know if they're CG-friendly, but companies like TIGI make root boost sprays. I've seen smaller sample sizes of them at TJ Maxx and Ross, those might be able to help.
2b, fine texture, normal porosity & elasticity (CG as of 12/2011)

Low-poo: UFD Rich & Funky
Cowash: VO5 Kiwi Lime
RO: Tresemme Naturals, Aubrey Organics GPB, Ion Effective Care, MillCreek Keratin
PT/DT: IAgirl's PT, GVP CB
LI: KCKT, Cure Care, CJ CCCC Lite
Styling: Curl Keeper, As I Am Jelly, UFD Curly Magic, CJ Curl Queen, TIGI Strong Hold Mousse


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I noticed SM makes my roots flat. I know you recently starting using SM. I've been trying everything (I'm actually sitting here twirling my curls at the roots lol) like flipping my hair in different directions as it dries which usually gives me a lot of volume.

I noticed after starting SM that my roots stay wet for a LONG time. Have you noticed this too?


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3A 3B mix
Very thick hair
Colored
Low porosity
Medium coarse texture

Lo-Poo- Yes to Cucumbers
Co-wash- Yes to Cucumbers, As I Am Co-wash
RO-Yes to blueberries, GVPCB, CJ curl assurance conditioner
DT- CJ curl rehab
LI- As I Am leave in, KCKT

Style- Sauve Everlasting Sunshine
Misc- CJ Smoothing lotion
Hmm, good question. No, I had not noticed the lack of volume at the roots since I started using SM..I would attribute that more, perhaps, to the conditioner. I have been useing Cure Care. I may switch back today to Yes to Tomatoes, and see if that makes a difference. I just really love SM; I feel that it is just the best for my hair, I dont worry that I am over washing it or hurting it in any way. But you make a good point, and I can keep an eye on it. As far as the roots staying wet for a long time - yes, possibly. so that too would cut down on the volume. I try not to diffuse much.
I found that clipping the roots and diffusing them dry gives me big hair when I want that. I spray a little GF anti-humidity spray on the clips, because my hair is so long, clipping alone doesnt "hold" the root volume. When everything is dry I fluff upside down. A floppy ponytail also gives me good volume. Good luck Myrna
Have you tried using duckbill or roller clips? They really work!
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. I may switch back today to Yes to Tomatoes, and see if that makes a difference. I just really love SM; I feel that it is just the best for my hair,.
Originally Posted by Myrna
Do you like the yes to tomatoes? I use the yes to carrots and cucumbers and I absolutely love them. They mesh well together also. I might have to pick up the tomatoes.

I also love SM.

I hope you find a remedy and share it with me!


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3A 3B mix
Very thick hair
Colored
Low porosity
Medium coarse texture

Lo-Poo- Yes to Cucumbers
Co-wash- Yes to Cucumbers, As I Am Co-wash
RO-Yes to blueberries, GVPCB, CJ curl assurance conditioner
DT- CJ curl rehab
LI- As I Am leave in, KCKT

Style- Sauve Everlasting Sunshine
Misc- CJ Smoothing lotion
Gretchen, what is a roller clip? but yes, I do use duckbill and double pronged clips..they help some but not as much as I wanted. Today I used a different combo of products, and the jury is still out. I will try again tomorrow. Regarding root lift sprays, I used Aveda's once years and years ago, and I think I should have included it in the "Worst products thread", it was terrible; so that kind of turned me off to root lifters. And I do like the Yes to Tomatoes conditioner; I was using that before I started using Cure Care.
Hi Myrna! I'm with Marci - I clip and after I'm completely dry will flip my head upside down and ruffle the roots. On occasion, I'll use a little spray gel on my fingertips while I ruffle. The more I ruffle, the bigger my hair gets. It will sometimes cause some frizz but that's on the under layers of my hair and not visible when I'm upright. I do my best to stay upright most of the day!
3B, fine, normal to low porosity
Modified CG since June 2010
HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
Whats a duck bill?

And can anyone explain to me how they clip? I normally use my headband method but I think I need something new.
3A 3B mix
Very thick hair
Colored
Low porosity
Medium coarse texture

Lo-Poo- Yes to Cucumbers
Co-wash- Yes to Cucumbers, As I Am Co-wash
RO-Yes to blueberries, GVPCB, CJ curl assurance conditioner
DT- CJ curl rehab
LI- As I Am leave in, KCKT

Style- Sauve Everlasting Sunshine
Misc- CJ Smoothing lotion
I have tried several brands of root lift (before CG) and they help somewhat but not significantly for me. I have tried the metal clips and a type of roller clip, some improvement but still not the fullness that I like. I recently went for a cut and this was one of my main requests - lift on the top and back. Still not happening. Will a cut (the right one) accomplish this? Also, Myrna, I cannot get any volume unless I diffuse and ruffle upside down! So you get a bonus - all that blood rushing to your brain makes you smarter. I'm sure that's scientific fact.
I try not to diffuse since being more or less CG; well, its hard to do with metal clips all over the top of my hair. I have some short layers that my stylist is growing out (they just happen to be on MY head) and I think that may help - sort of - but I think my hair may lack the texture to have that really great volume that gals with a tighter curl can achieve.
I get excellent root lift, but I use a diffuser to achieve that. Right after I put in my products and arrange my hair, I use the diffuser on the crown area only. I lift up and hold sections of my crown in the diffuser for about 15-20 seconds. I do that to each section of the crown 2-3 times, or until the gel cast hardens. I've tried all kinds of clips and methods, and none of it worked well. My hair is too fine and my curl pattern is not strong enough to hold up under the weight of wet hair. I'm willing to do a little heat styling if it means I won't end up with a flat top and voluminous curls everywhere else, which means serious triangle hair. lol.
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I learned how to boost my hair with the diffuser. I style my hair before bed, so I don't have to diffuse my whole head- just the problem areas. However, when I was considering getting a root booster, I found this one by L'Oreal Paris. I couldn't find a specific list of ingredients, but it's supposed to be silicone-free.
2B/fine to med texture/med porosity

Started CG on 5/5/12!
Battling dry/itchy scalp since April 2010.... Starting to WIN!
Low Poo: Nature's Gate Tea Tree Shampoo
Cowash: GTTTT or GVPCB
RO : Ion Effective Care
LI : KCKT or GVPCB
Stylers : FSG
PT : IAgirl's PT w/ acv, coconut oil, GVPCB, herbs, green tea
J. I have been using clips and not heat styling, as the top of my hair was kind of overworked. I suppose I could remove them when my hair is still a tad damp and diffuse briefly, but I think my lift will fall. : (
Lyn, where do you get t he L'Oreal product?
I saw two things in the last few days on videos, unfortunately, I don't remember which videos and where.

Anyway, 1 tip was to put gel on the clip before putting it in your hair.

The other was to put the long clips across the head from temple to temple, rather than from front to back.

I also read one thread here that talked of using octopus or claw type clips rather than the duckbill clips.

I don't know if any of these will help any of those still looking for root volume, but they are worth trying out.
Be Happy!

Type:2b/3ab?
Texture:Medium/fine
Porosity:Normal
Elasticity:Normal

Experimenting with too many products to name here. All this great info keeps my head spinning.
Riindeer: i went looking for the octopus clips and could not figure out what size to get. I have duckbill clips and use them at the back of the crown; I could get a few more and see if that helps. I have done the clips with gel on them. Does not help all that much. Thank, though!
My guess would be that what size octopus clips to try would depend on where you want your part. If you part in the middle, you would try clips small enough to put two across the front of your hair, one on each side of the part. If you part on the side, you might want to get 1 to put across the middle of the front of your hair, and maybe a smaller one to put on the other side of the part, depending on whether you want lift to the side as well. At least, that might give you a starting point. If you pick up a few sizes at the dollar store, it won't be too expensive to buy two or even three sizes to experiment with.

If I use duckbill clips, I was getting "good" results with them going front to back, like I have seen on videos. Used this way, though, they seem to catch in my bangs, and cause frizz, so I am still experimenting with other methods, too. I like using the long duckbills across side to side, but I have bought octopus clips to try, too. It seems to me, that there would be less chance of these catching on and frizzing hair, but only experience will tell.
Be Happy!

Type:2b/3ab?
Texture:Medium/fine
Porosity:Normal
Elasticity:Normal

Experimenting with too many products to name here. All this great info keeps my head spinning.
Lyn, where do you get t he L'Oreal product?
Originally Posted by Myrna

This was the list on their info site- Wal Mart
Shoppers Drug Mart/ Pharmaprix
Jean Coutu
Loblaws
Zellers
Pharma Plus
London Drugs
Uniprix
Familiprix
Sobeys

Otherwise it lists this Canadian website - Buy L'Oreal Paris Volume Collagen Body Boost Root Lifting Spray from Canada at Well.ca - Free Shipping
2B/fine to med texture/med porosity

Started CG on 5/5/12!
Battling dry/itchy scalp since April 2010.... Starting to WIN!
Low Poo: Nature's Gate Tea Tree Shampoo
Cowash: GTTTT or GVPCB
RO : Ion Effective Care
LI : KCKT or GVPCB
Stylers : FSG
PT : IAgirl's PT w/ acv, coconut oil, GVPCB, herbs, green tea

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