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Old 06-04-2012, 10:22 PM   #1
 
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Unhappy Polyquats, please help and read :(?

I just realized my devacurl low poo contains polyquats in it (7 and 10) and these can buildup.I also used something with polyquat 39 ugh. Luckily my devacurl one conditione does not have any polyquats in it so I guess I will only use that until I figure out how to remove these polyquats. How do I remove a polyquat if every shampoo I've looked at has a polyquat in the ingredient list. If I find a shampoo without a polyquat, it doesnt have a sulfate the clarifier, only cocoa betaine. I feel like removing polyquats will take more than cocoa betain to remove? What do I do?

I was looking at buying this to replace my devalow poo and remove the polyquats, but it doesnt have a sulfate in it:
CURLS Pure Curls Clarifying Shampoo - CurlMart

I still feel like I will need something stronger to get these polyquats out than just cocoa betaine... I heard polyquats are worse than silicones sometimes?

******If anyone uses a shampoo without any polyquats, silicones, and parabens and contains a sulfate please let me know!!!***** Thank you
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:03 AM   #2
 
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Default Polyquats, please help and read :(?

Are you actually noticing buildup or are you just assuming that these these products are causing buildup? I've heard that some people have problems with polyquats 4 and 10 specifically, but there are also plenty of people who experience no problems at all. So if you're not actually seeing problems, I wouldn't stress about changing around products. In fact, I've used the Deva line and had more issues with gunkiness from the polyquat free One C than with any of their cleansers.

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Old 06-05-2012, 05:50 AM   #3
 
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I have build up issues with 4 and 10, not sure about 7. Was very disappointed when Curly Kinks changed their shampoo to the Clean Cream which does have Polyquaternium 7. The first time I used it, my hair was fabulous. The next day, I wet, used a rinse out and styled--felt that my styling products didn't absorb as well. Since I rarely shampoo, I've only used it a few times. The absorption issues hasn't seemed as bad as it was the first time.

I don't remember if I used a product with coco b (either CJ Daily Fix or the original Curly Kinks Cleanse) or the Donna Marie shampoo. Ingredients are Organic Aloe Juice, Vegetable Glycerin, Coco Betaine, Sodium Olefin Sulfonate, Comfrey Root extract, Marshmallow Root Extract, Pro-vitamin B-5, nettle extract, Rosemary Leaf, Chamomile Flower extract, guar silk, glycol stearate, potassium sorbate, citric acid, silver citrate and fragrance.
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Old 06-07-2012, 05:13 PM   #4
 
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I just want to change my products around just for the future
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